Wow, I'm totally freaked out about Waldorf now... - Page 11

[Sasha_girl]

Originally Posted by leavesarebrown

What's an Akashic record? I was raised Mormon and have studied church history beyond the "party line"/ church version but have never heard of this.

Records of past lives that can be studied in between incarnations.

[Pete]

Criticism over Waldorf is certainly nothing new. This very interesting and informative thread with almost 10,000 views demonstrates that people who visit this forum are interested in a lively, respectfully conducted debate about the pros and cons of Waldorf. I suspect a lot of people come here looking for exactly this type of debate.

Pete

[waldorf teacher]

Originally Posted by Bahesmama

I sort of wish there were more schools built around the ideals of Martin Luther King, whose work more directly brought the freedoms that I as an American Indian and a woman enjoy today.

Funny you should mention it....
I recently discovered this place, and it's practically in my backyard!
It looks quite extraordinary, and their connection with Dr. King is intriguing.
WThttp://www.fellowshipfarm.org/index.htm

[Pete]

Originally Posted by Bahesmama

I went to the school looking for coherent answers and received what I can only describe as a chilling effect to inquiry. I just wanted to be treated in a courteous manner and be comforted. I also checked out the Waldorfanswers site and was put off by the repeated assertations that the Waldorfcritics were accusing Steinerism of being akin to Satanism, as that was nowhere in anything I had read. It just seems like the leadership of Steinerism (I think this is a more accurate name) are unbending and refuse to look critically at all at their founder. I believe we should look at our elders. My husband and I couldn't help but see a comparison to the Founding Fathers, particularly, Washington and Jefferson, who spoke and fought for freedom, yet, were slaveowners. Why can't we look at Steiner as a man of his times? He published anti-semitic tracks and was fired by his employer (who was Jewish and a friend and terribly hurt by the hatred when he read the article). The Waldorfanswers site seems to try to defend Steiner by saying he wasn't anti-semitic but anti-Zionist. It seems like maybe we should spend less time defending a 19th century European man, Steiner, and more building the kind of schools we want for our children and our world, now in the 21st century.
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I would like to see a natural environment and intent for my children's education but without Steiner and his Atlantis hokum. It was cool in the early 20th century, with occultism, but now, I want something more true to who I am. Yes, I am a sundancer and participate in traditional ceremonies of my people, but I am, I don't know what, just different than occultists of that time period and Steiner just read silly to me.

[Pete]

Originally Posted by waldorf teacher

Funny you should mention it....
I recently discovered this place, and it's practically in my backyard!
It looks quite extraordinary, and their connection with Dr. King is intriguing.
WThttp://www.fellowshipfarm.org/index.htm

This place sounds really great! Thanks!

Pete

[ratlover]

I know that the contentious threads have been locked, but is it really necessary to bring back threads from february to keep the debate going right now? Cynthia Mosher wrote in her sticky:

So, until we can do this, and we will try to do so as quickly as possible, we are closing and/or removing some threads for review and asking for a pause on debate and discussions with a critical tone.

It is interesting to see how nicely this board debated in the past, though.
Janine

[Serena Blaue]

Originally Posted by ratlover

I know that the contentious threads have been locked, but is it really necessary to bring back threads from february to keep the debate going right now? Cynthia Mosher wrote in her sticky:


It is interesting to see how nicely this board debated in the past, though.
Janine

You are so right! I wonder what changed? Look at what Lauren said back in 2004...

Serena

Originally Posted by lauren

05-31-2004

As moderator here, I would like to commend everyone who has been participating in this discussion with open mindedness and balance. I've had to keep an eye on it, even though I don't know enough about Waldorf to actively participate, just to make sure no one got too ticked off!! (but of course there has been no need for me to step in

Knowing what I know about some of the other forums (through my contact with the other mods) I must say, our Learning at School forum here has some of the most intelligent AND thoughtful, respectful participants of any of the Mothering forums, and I am so glad to learn from everyone here! I have also learned a ton about Waldorf through the threads that come up from time to time debating the pros and cons of this approach. I think it is a gift to visitors and learners to be able to make these threads part of their research, because members here really do their homework about this option.

Kudos!

[Pete]

Originally Posted by ratlover

I know that the contentious threads have been locked, but is it really necessary to bring back threads from february to keep the debate going right now?

I'm not debating anything here - but by bringing this thread back I am demonstrating that debate is relevant and has precident.

It is interesting to see how nicely this board debated in the past, though.

My point exactly!

Pete

[Pete]

Originally Posted by WaldorfAnswers

In this "hot" thread, that Peter has reactivated after it has been dead for eight months, after all other "hot" threads have been closed for further discussion,

Thanks Sune, I'm sure you will succeed in shutting down this thread too by demonstrating that having a civil and respectful debate is no longer possible as long as certain members are allowed to post here.

Warm wishes,

Pete

[yaM yaM]

[yaM yaM]

[Pete]

Originally Posted by May May

[LindaCl]

Originally Posted by Pete

Thanks Sune, I'm sure you will succeed in shutting down this thread too by demonstrating that having a civil and respectful debate is no longer possible as long as certain members are allowed to post here.

Warm wishes,

Pete

And I have yet again.

Surprise, surprise--the concerns that began this thread, continue to run throughout, and are reborn anew in the post by Bahesmama Pete quotes above--all come a single website.

Any guesses? One is all anybody needs.

Linda

[lauren]

Y'all guessed it right....... here comes the lock. Sorry....


PLEASE RE-READ CYNTHIA'S STICKY IN WHICH SHE PLACES A MORATORIUM ON DEBATE AND CRITICAL THREADS.