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post #1 of 14
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I am mourning, grieving an ex love. He is not deceased (that I know of) but it feels like it is a death. For almost seven years now, I have very intense times of mourning the loss of our relationship (we are not in contact). I am weepy, nostalgic, and have the worst heartache for this man. I miss everything about him and the longing feels like it is killing me sometimes.

If I manage to put him out of my consciousness, he is in my dreams. I want to stay asleep because my dreams are so sweet with this man. I can see him in my dreams, talk with him and watch him. It is like honey. But we aren't reunited in my dreams, I can only see him, talk a little, sometimes he gives me a letter but he always leaves and I'm devastated.

I wake crying and the dreams throw me back into a deeper state of mourning.

I cannot be with this man, I don't think he wants that. I have emailed him in the past and he doesn't respond. So it is a death in that way.

But why can't I let go? I hate this.

I've done hypnotherapy, cognitive behavior therapy, crystal work, closing ceremony, saying goodbye ceremony. I've forced myself to focus on the here and now, wanting what I have, put energy into my marriage.

But it doesn't stop. Every scenario that I can think of has been presented to me in counseling: the man is what I wish to be, the man represents a magical time of my life, he is parts of me that I need to get back. But that only helps for a time and then i'm back into mourning/grieving.

If I see a movie about reunited lovers, I'm hysterical. So I don't go see those anymore. "Titanic" (I know, how silly!) left me crying for hours solely b/c of the reuniting after death. I identified with the Rose character because she loved her husband, but the love of her soul was Jack.

My husband knows nothing of this. Thinks I talk about other things in therapy. He is very intuitive, tho, and he senses there is another man in my heart. I deny this, but my husband has described this man exactly as he is. We've not talked much of my ex but because my husband is very sensitive, he knows.

My kids don't know either (too young). My mother struggled with this, too...she dreamt of her ex love for a long time after she married, kept a ring from him and couldn't let go. She was terrified it would destroy her marriage so she just made herself stop thinking of the man. But it's not working for me.

Does mourning the loss of someone ever get easier? After years, I'm in the same place (or worse) than when we first broke up. I miss him with all of my being and I feel wet inside my chest with grief and sadness. Songs remind me of him, weather changes, smells. Sometimes i see the back of someone and think, 'that's him!' but of course, it never is.

I'm sorry this is so long. I'm desperate for relief and at the same time, lost in my dreams of this man and wishing so so so much that we could be reunited somehow. That it could all work out and we could sit on the bench swing holding hands as old people like I dream of.

I also don't understand why I married my husband when I was grieving my ex, even when we were engaged. I was caught up in the wedding 'stuff' - dress, flowers, ceremony, how I would look, sound and the 'perfect day'. I crashed when we came home from the honeymoon and were living as partners. I kept crying and saying 'I don't know how to do this' because I'd only planned for The Big Day, not for a lifetime of living as a partner. I feel like I baited and switched on my husband, presented a facade. Now I've had kids with him and we're in the thick of family life so there is no going back. But in my dreams, there is!

Any help is tremendously welcome. I feel like my mind is playing tricks on me and telling me that I'm 'meant to be' with this ex, that all this grief is a sign that I'm supposed to be with my 'true love'. But those ideas are not real, are they? Pipe dreams we tell ourselves like Prince Charming and Happily Ever After? Soulmates?

Thank you for listening and this space to share.
post #2 of 14
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Originally Posted by playdoh
But it doesn't stop. Every scenario that I can think of has been presented to me in counseling: the man is what I wish to be, the man represents a magical time of my life, he is parts of me that I need to get back. But that only helps for a time and then i'm back into mourning/grieving.
I really think you answered it all in this quote. There is a part of 'you' missing. However, I don't think this man is the missing part. I sounds like something more internal. Do you keep a journal? I think it would bbe very helpful to have a journal to write down your feelings.
post #3 of 14
I'm not really sure what to say...
I have gone through alot of the things you are talking/dealing with...
The worst part of what I went through was this person is actually my DH brother!
We dated for a SHORT while before my DH.... But I was in 'love' with him for years.... and we were best friends for a long time (I'd like to think we still are)
My DH has never understood me like he did/does... we still have a 'friendship' relationship... i have to say I have mostly gotten over it...
Sometimes songs or movies remind me too. I just try to stay focused on DH....
Also not sure if your religious but I am and I have found the only thing that helped was praying and asking these feelings to be taken away....
I'm sorry if I havn't helped.... but I do know what its like to feel like part of your heart/soul is with someone else...
take care momma....
thinking and praying for you....
post #4 of 14
I had a relationship which I mourned the loss of for several years, as well. I got some joyful closure on it a couple of years ago. The closure on the relationship also become closure on a very intense phase of my life, and ultimately I was able to look on most of it joyfully.
I still love this person very much. I got closure when he got my number from a mutual friend and called me. He had just gotten married and was finally clean and sober for a few years. He was so happy when I talked to him. His wife will have the best part of him--the sober him, and I was happy for them both.
He also told me I was the love of his life, and he would always love me. And therein lay the closure. We accepted that we could always love each other, support each other, share each others joys and sorrows, and not be together.
I had it easy. I got a response, and have been able to cultivate a genuine friendship with this person. It sounds like you may not get that. But I can offer you this, which I hope you can relate to. Our spouses have so much more to offer us--love, friendship, companionship, family, and we have so much more to offer our spouses than we could each other, now or 12 years ago.
It's okay to still love this person. I'd venture to say it's okay not to ever be completely over him. But look at what you have now, and consider what now could this other person offer to you?
That part of you that you need to get back, you might never get back, and you may grieve over them forever, too. So consider the parts of your life that you enjoy, that are magical, and work to make them bloom.
Grief is never easy, isn't finite, and always varies in length and intensity. It can help you grow as a person, or keep you stagnant. Let it happen, respect it, don't try to force it away. Let it take its course, and the pain will lessen eventually, even if the process of grieving continues.
I think journalling can be very therapeutic also.
I sometimes wonder if it's harder to grieve someone who is still living, than someone who isn't. It depends on the person, I'm sure, but I know I've had more intense grieving over a relationship and a broken friendship (no closure on that one, yet.) Many people would not consider the grief of a relationship actual, which makes it harder to find social support.

Peace!
post #5 of 14

If I only had more time

My kids are running around screaming, so its hard to focus. But I have the same problem in my life, and I still don`t have the answer, it never goes away for me either. I try to put all my energy in to my babies, but as soon as I get quiet time he is who I think about. My husband knows about him but he does not know how I feel, he thinks it over and done with(I have convinced him of that) I think I just have to accept that I will have these feelings probably for the rest of my life, and just try to make the best of it, for my family. Maybe talk about him every once in awhile to my sister, who is trying to help me. Thank god I have her to talk to or it would be alot worse.

I don`t know if there is help, how can anybody help you stop having feelings, and they are so strong nobody can take those away.

Let me know if it gets easier for you.
post #6 of 14
Thread Starter 
Wow, I am very, very touched by your replies. Thank you. I cried reading your responses.

Thank you, Ms.Mom. I don't have a journal and I should start. I have a history of people finding my journal and reading it, so I'm afraid sometimes of starting again. Maybe now that there are blogs with locks.

rainbowfairymama, I send hugs to you for your struggle as well. Thank you for caring about me.

Parthenia, what an amazing post you've given me. Thank you for sharing your experience. You've given me much to think about.

2finegutta, we are on a similar path and I send hugs your way as well. It is so hard, isn't it? I will let you know if I find some comfort and closure.

What timing: I received an email back from this man last night. Amazing how that sometimes works after I posted here! He said he was responded to my email which is now long, long ago. That's true. I didn't think I'd hear back from him.

He was friendly, said he is living with his sweetheart and happy about that. Enjoying work, etc. Dreams of moving to a new country. He said he hoped my kids are well and asked me to send photos sometime. Signed the email, 'love, ________'.

So that's it. No big fireworks from him, longing for me. No secrets to confess. He is happy with his new love and living with her...and they moved to the same city where I lived with him years ago.

Still so hard, though.

My mind tells me: it would have been hard to stay with him. He would have had to do a 180 to be an attached parent. He doesn't want long term commitment or children, he is happy to explore the world child free. Most likely I would have had a desire for another type of life than we were living and he would not be able to join me in that desire. So maybe it would have been harder than I could ever imagine.

My DH provides for us, loves our children, gives them stability and affection. He wants what we have. He has only wanted this kind of life and does all he can to protect us. I'm not fighting against desires to run free like I would probably have had with this other man.

I miss who I was with this other man, I miss that life. I cannot be that person now, that life required I had no dependents and the world was open to me. Now I am the servant of my choices which means I must care for my kids and partner my husband. I set it up this way, best I protect my world and live in the here and now. Just like you put it so well, Parthenia.

I will post more when the kids are settled!
post #7 of 14
Chiming in to say I know exactly how you feel. I have one of those in my past as well. We have met again a couple of times through the years. We've been friends for a few months at a time, but it ends up being too hard. He has made some poor choices in his life and I have finally found some peace that it is just not meant to be in this lifetime. I'll always love him (and my DH knows how I feel and has been supportive.) This is where I'm meant to be this lifetime.

don't know if that helps, but wanted to share that I also know that kick-in-the-gut feeling when you think of him.

take care,


Angela
post #8 of 14

lost love

My heart goes out to all of you!!!
All I can say is REIKI REIKI REIKI!!!
and then let it go!!
An actual death is easier, I know...I lost my first husband (and first love) in a MVA ten weeks after we were married. We were both 22. 11 years later and it still aches in my heart, often, on special days. I still dream of him but we are not together in the dreams and sometimes he doesn't recognise me.
I have found reiki to help me with dealing with the loss, but in the (misquoted) words of Norman Vincent Peale...talking about it just aggravates the situation, like pushing on a sore tooth!
for the sake of your family, your partner and your sanity...move on and live in the now.
I wish you all the best, in light and love.....c
post #9 of 14
I met someone whom I felt a true connnection with. Unfortunately he was dating someone else when I was single and wanting him, then I met someone else right before he broke it off, and he pined for me... but neither of us are cheating people, and I fell in love with my DH. He joined the peace corp, and I havent heard from him since. But I still dream of a life with him, it would have been so exciting... but I would not trade my current life for it. I deeply love my DH, but I still think of my other guy often, and dream of what my life would have been like. I have never told DH this, it would hurt him too much.
post #10 of 14
I can totally relate to what youre saying.....and have thought about lost loves before too, but mostly I was grieving the possibilities of roads not taken.....my previous life before being married and becoming a mother. You have no contact (until recently, an email) so this man can be built up and made up to represent this life you miss and grieve about. If you were to spend an hour with this guy, seeing him in reality, hearing him talk about his commitment issues, his issues with intimacy, you might think differently. Its the unknown that is so appealing in your life of routine, kids and predictability. I dont doubt your love for him........but I think we as mothers do go thru a grieving process for that life we left behind. And of course for a love we left behind too.

I recently talked to an ex......he is still single at 45, still unable to commit.......still childless........still without someone to love. And here I am........sometimes wishing for my previous life. And after talking with him, I realised I needed to take inventory of my life. It always seems greener on the other side.....but one thing he said stuck with me for days after speaking with him. He said......"I wish I had someone who gave a shit about me......." You cant have that when you cant commit to anyone. Most of my loves ended for this reason.

Maybe Im waaay of base here, I dont know you, I just feel your pain, Ive been there...and sometimes I am there..... If theres a way to talk with him on the phone, do it..... It might help you think of him in a less idealistic way.
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I wish I had some advice for you. I just wanted to post because your situation reminds me soooo much of a book I read called Love's Executioner. It's a book of different stories of people in therapy and one of them is a lady who is obssessed with an ex-lover and just can't get over him even though she is married. The therapist was trying to replace her obssession with her ex with something else. I'm not explaining it very well...but I wish you luck.
post #12 of 14
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Jenna, I just read the excerpt allowed on amazon.com for that book. After there was no more to read (darn it!) I realized I'd held my body in a very tense position, on the edge of the chair literally as I read that excerpt about the woman who could not move forward after a love affair years ago.

I cannot thank you enough for that recommendation. I must read this book.

My ex wants to talk by phone. I've agreed and we set up some time tomorrow. My husband doesn't know about this, I don't feel courageous enough to tell him, I'm afraid he'll say he doesn't want this and I feel desperate to communicate with this man.

I'll post more after I talk with my ex and thank you so much for all the replies here. I don't feel so alone anymore. I want to move forward, see my life for what it is. I've put so much energy into this fantasy with this ex, it is becoming an escape, I fear. Escaping from my life with two kids who I adore but I also feel burned out sometimes. Escaping from my lack of sex drive and attraction to my husband. Escaping from all the crap that comes with mom and wife. Some of that crap I do not want but I feel stuck because here I am, I signed up for this experience.

I still don't totally understand why I picked my ex as my 'one true love' feeling. When I had kids, I didn't rapsodize about my dating years with my husband, or our engagement time or our pre kids life. I didn't think about any other ex lovers. Just this one man. I DO miss my carefree life pre kids. But why this man? That's what I need to find out.
post #13 of 14
YOu know.....I dont know if you believe in this sort of thing, but when I had trouble moving on in relationships, or dont understand something in my life, I go see a reputable psychic. Ive found it helpful to know why Im connected to a person, if its from a pastlife.......and why Ive chosen the person I have to be married to/have children with......etc. Its always been really helpful. Maybe someone you know can recommend someone to you......

Acceptance of ones life path is a true gift to yourself and others. Like fish who continue to swim upstream.....life will always be a struggle until you go with the flow
post #14 of 14
hmmmm, the man suddenly emails you out of the blue, and now wants to talk on the phone? This is not sounding like a man who is really happy with his current relationship...be careful, mama!
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