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Here's an MDC thread that may reassures some parents...

Intact and No Problems



(There are now several threads started like this one)

Edited by jessjgh1 - 7/8/11 at 7:48pm
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A Wealth Of Info

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Excellent resource about Red, Swollen, and Inflamed foreskins:


love and peace.
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This is a great one for a visual of the "medical" evolution of Circumcision in America, the UK and The World....just mind-blowing!


This is a good link for those ppl who are arguing about how circ can prevent AIDS, it gives a good history of all the ailments circ has been supposed to cure...
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Some thoughts on why many circed men want their sons to be circed

Regarding why many circed men are so insistent that their sons be circed as well.....a great article by Vincent Bach.


Many women believe that they should defer to their husbands on the circumcision issue because "he has the penis, he knows more about them than I do." But what they don't realize is that these men were deeply wounded themselves at birth, and it was allowed to happen by those who had a primal duty to protect them -- their parents. And what they don't realize is that circed men have a very difficult time recognizing what they have lost, because men don't want to think that their sexual abilities and responses are not what they should be.

So for a circed man to admit that a) he himself was victimized and traumatized by circumcision and that b) his parents allowed him to be harmed, resulting in c) his sexuality and sexual sensations will never, ever be what they could have been if he'd been left alone -- all of these are very big pills for men to swallow.

Add that all together with a culture that values men appearing strong, and not admitting to pain or to being victimized, and you have an incredibly strong motivation for denial of the harms of circumcision. "I'M JUST FINE" they say, with their fingers in their ears going LA LA LA LA LA I don't want to hear anything to the contrary that would force me to give up my protective shell of denial. Much, much easier to refuse to talk about it, or refuse to learn about circumcision -- and to insist that it be done to their sons as well so they don't ever have to look at their own pain and victimization. If they do it to their sons, they can maintain the shell of denial, even at the expense of perpetuating the cycle of violence.

That's why, IMO, if our dhs are being irrational and insisting on circumcision.....we can support them through our love for them but we cannot under any circumstances allow them to insist on circumcising our sons as a way for them to avoid the psychic pain of facing up to their own circumcision traumas.
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For those looking for info specifically showing the adult side effects of infant circumcision:

Complications as an adult


http://www.doctorsopposingcircumcisi...rells_2007.pdf (study published in the April 2007 issue of the British Journal of Urology, demonstrating that the five most sensitive areas of the penis are on the foreskin, and that the most sensitive area of the circed penis is on the circ scar)

http://tinyurl.com/2h69us (study from Korea, where the vast majority of men undergo elective circumcisions as adults, demonstrating that a significant majority experienced less sexual satisfaction after circumcision)


http://www.circumstitions.com/Complic.html (adults with lasting circ complications)

Penile sensitivity and sexual satisfaction after circumcision: are we informing men correctly? "Overall satisfaction was 61%. CONCLUSIONS: Penile sensitivity had variable outcomes after circumcision. The poor outcome of circumcision considered by overall satisfaction rates suggests that when we circumcise men, these outcome data should be discussed during the informed consent process."

Adult circumcision outcomes study: effect on erectile function, penile sensitivity, sexual activity and satisfaction. "Of the men 50% reported benefits and 38% reported harm. Overall, 62% of men were satisfied with having been circumcised."

Effect of neonatal circumcision on penile neurologic sensation. Bleustein CB, Fogarty JD, Eckholdt H, Arezzo JC, Melman A. "In the dysfunctional group, circumcised men (49 +/- 16 years) were significantly younger (P <0.01) than uncircumcised men (56 +/- 13 years)."

"However, the mean ejaculatory latency time was significantly longer after circumcision (P = 0.02). CONCLUSIONS: Adult circumcision does not adversely affect sexual function. The increase in the ejaculatory latency time can be considered an advantage rather than a complication."

"Erectile function evaluation after adult circumcision] [Article in Chinese]
Shen Z, Chen S, Zhu C, Wan Q, Chen Z. Department of Urology, First Affiliated Hospital, School of Medicine, Zhejiang University, Hangzhou, Zhejiang 310003, China. shenzhj@mail.hz.zj.cn OBJECTIVE: To evaluate the erectile function of adults after circumcision. METHODS: Ninty-five patients were investigated on erectile function by questionnaire before and after circumcision, respectively. RESULTS: Eighteen patients suffered from mild erectile dysfunction before circumcision, and 28 suffered from mild or moderate erectile dysfunction after circumcision(P = 0.001). Adult circumcision appeared to have resulted in weakened erectile confidence in 33 cases(P = 0.04), difficult insertion in 41 cases(P = 0.03), prolonged intercourse in 31 cases(P = 0.04) and improved satisfaction in 34 cases(P = 0.04). CONCLUSIONS: Adult circumcision has certain effect on erectile function, to which more importance should be attached."


http://www.nocirc.org/touch-test/touchtest.php (circumcised penis is 1/4 as sensitive to light touch)
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I would love to have the above list of resources with all the links done as
a tinyurl so that we could just cut and paste it and send it far and wide.

Cutting and pasting the above won't work because the links are shortened on the forum.

Does anyone have time to do this for all of us? You go to
http://www.tinyurl.com and follow the instructions.

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Link Collection

For Mothers:

Dr Sears advises about deciding to circumcise or not:

10 Most Common Circumcision Myths:

How to talk to your pro-cutting husband:
Vulnerability of Men article -- http://tinyurl.com/77mgv

This signable legal form helps prevent Doctors doing circumcisions without permission:

How to properly care for your uncut baby:

This signable legal form helps dispel the ignorance medical professionals have about foreskin:


Observe for yourself the mobility of a real foreskin with these moving gifs:

The three zones of penile skin:

The functions of the foreskin:

Where Cut-Off Foreskin Goes:

Face Cream's secret ingriedient:

Harvesting Foreskins for commercial use:

Where do all the foreskins go?

Foreskins for Sale:

Near the bottom of the page - "Injectable collagen derived from newborn foreskin":
MSNBC Fact Sheet -- http://tinyurl.com/rdwsx

This commercial biomedical company sells foreskin-derived cell cultures(Search for Foreskin):

FGM and MGM:

Compare FGM and MGM

Side-by-side Comparison of official AAP positions

An FGM researcher compares MGM cultural justifications

Human Genital Mutilation Classification Chart

Female Circumcision. Male Circumcision. Is There A Difference?
From compleatmother.com -- http://tinyurl.com/32fajp

Common Denominators between Male & Female "Circumcision"

Underlying Justifications in the US and Africa


Contrast and compare pictures of cut and uncut penises:

Baby Circumcision Photo Collection:

An excellent comprehensive overview with pictures:

What is lost due to circumcision?

Peoples feelings and experiences with infant circumcision:
From med-fraud.org -- http://tinyurl.com/2qlthj

Isn't circumcision just a little snip? and other FAQs:

Circumcision's Medical History:

Historical Circumcision Quotes in medical journals by doctors:

Histories of Circumcision in USA, Australia and Britain:

A doctor summarizes circumcision's modern history:
From birthpsychology.org -- http://tinyurl.com/2q3lo6

Religion and Circumcision:

Is circumcision a requirement for salvation for Christian males?
From christiananswers.com -- http://tinyurl.com/2nhdns

Christian Parents and Infant Circumcision

Questioning Circumcision -- A Jewish Perspective

Personal Articles:

Listen to an audiofile from an uncut mom who cut her first two babies but not her last:

An uncut expectant mother researches circumcision for her blog:
By CrunchyDomesticGoddess -- http://tinyurl.com/35easm

A cut man defends infant circumcision until he researches it:

An uncut Jewish American woman decides to not cut off part her son:

A cut Jewish man writes a letter to his newborn son:

An uncut American doctor questions cultural beliefs she was raised with:
By Dr Cat Saunders -- http://tinyurl.com/2k2t3q

A cut man researches circumcision and cries:
From Mens Health & Wellbeing -- http://tinyurl.com/3d5l26

An uncut woman meets Marilyn Milos:
From Kindred Magazine -- http://tinyurl.com/2t8jwo

A cut man describes how to become a REAL man:

Activist Links:

Collection of Blinkies, Banners, Animated gifs etc:

Share your own male, female or intersex genital-cutting story:

Free Legal Support for those who have been forcibly genitally-reduced:

Proposed Congressional Bill to protect against forced genital-reductions:

Pamphlets to print and hand out:

Intactivist shirts, buttons, magnets etc:

Stop the Government from automatically paying for infant genital-reductions

Intactivist Internet Support Groups:
Case Against Circumcision MDC Forum -- http://tinyurl.com/cppdw
Wacky World of Circumcision Yahoo Group -- http://tinyurl.com/3cscz9

Genital Integrity Awareness Week:

College Campus Student Groups:

Petitions to sign:
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Streamable Videos for Intactivism (including Penn & Teller)

All these videos can also be embedded on your blog, myspace page or ilk, website etc. Feel free to share

this list where it may be helpful.

Penn & Teller Circumcision BS program - 27mins
This is one of the best intactivist tools we have, but unfortunately it is not as widely available as it

should be. It has been re-uploaded on google, yahoo and a chinese site with a generic description and on

google only available by link.
Yahoo Video: http://tinyurl.com/23kcyc
Tudou Video: http://tinyurl.com/2zlcwt
Google Video: http://tinyurl.com/2hhud3

Functions of the Foreskin -- 19 mins
Made in association with Doctors Opposing Circumcision

The Foreskin: 15 Square Inches of Erogenous Tissue -- 2mins
Excerpted from "Whose Body? Whose Rights?"

News Stories(next six):

AAP Statement -- <1min

Investigative News Expose' -- 7mins

Another Canadian Baby Dies -- 2mins

Circumcision as Punishment -- 3mins
Man has foreskin restoration paid for by government.

Circumcision Pros and Cons -- 7mins
Notes our 'Cultural Myopia'

Circumstraint Manufacturer Protest -- <1min

Mother, why was I circumcised? w/ English Subtitles -- 29 mins:
A personal documentary that follows Dutch journalist/filmmaker Michael Schaap as he interviews circumcisers,
politicians, a restored British man, American intactivists, and some Jews and Muslims.

Cutting with Tradition(Jewish) -- 23mins

Intact.ca's Graphic Circumcision Video
13min version http://tinyurl.com/2dvspf
(13min full version has captions of full transcript)
5min version http://tinyurl.com/yyogx6
2min version http://tinyurl.com/2gmwy9

Circumcision with Narration -- 5mins
Excerpted from "Birth as we know it"

Doctors used to believe babies didn't feel pain?! -- 2mins
Excerpted from "Whose Body? Whose Rights?"

Medical Circumcision Overview by Dr Annette Owens -- 9mins

Nurses discuss Circumcision -- 6mins
Excerpted from "The Nurses of St. Vincent"

Doctors discuss Circumcision -- 4mins
Excerpted from "Facing Circumcision"

Man discusses his own Circumcision -- 4mins
Excerpted from "They Cut Babies, Don't They?"

Man sues Doctor who cut off part of him -- 6mins

NOCIRC Public Service Announcement -- 30seconds

Foreskin Restoration Story on Health Show - 5mins

Man raised as girl, dies tragically -- 8mins

Intersex Protest Infant Genital Surgery -- 4mins

Intersex Infant Surgical Abuse -- 8mins

Krusty the Clown offers his view -- 2mins

Welcome to America, Baby! -- 2mins
Circumcision slideshow with appropriate music

An Aesop's Fable: The Fox who Lost his Tail -- 2mins
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Collection of Circumcision Blinkies, Banners, Animated gifs etc

Below the videos and links, is the collection which you
can save normally, or cut and paste the html code below each item for
easy adding onto your site, blog, forum, posting signature etc.

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3 Video Clips & 6 moving photo gifs of real penises showing foreskin mobility

If you are curious as to how the foreskin functions but do not have access to your own or your partner's, then you may find it helpful to view the moving photo gifs and video clips of real penises demonstrating their foreskin movement from several different views. Feel free to save and share them if it will be helpful in encouraging people not to be afraid of men with complete genitalia.


Additionally, viewing the photos on the following two links would also help clarify and deepen ones understanding:

The three zones of penile skin shows just how extensive the foreskin is:

Contrast and compare pictures of cut and uncut penises:
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It's info on the prepuce.
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Resources geared towards health and birth professionals

I've put this together as a suggestion of places to start for health care and birth professionals, but I'd still like to do more. Most of this list is available online. I got a lot of help on this project, too! And it looks like I need to add the new informatoin for physicians from ICGI.


Intact Support and Circumcision Information for Health Care and Birth Professionals

Circumcision and Childbirth Professionalswww.coloradonocirc.org/pamphlets.php
“His parents’ education is his only lines of defense”

The Elements of Informed Consentwww.coloradonocirc.org/pamphlets.php
With Suggested Applications to Male Infant Circumcision

Answers to Your Question About Yourwww.nocirc.org/publish/
Young Son’s Intact Penis(NOCIRC #4)

Should Your Baby Boy Be Circumcised?www.coloradonocirc.org/pamphlets.php
Circumcision: Information for Expectant Parents

Circumcision vs Breastfeedingwww.circumstitions.com/Docs/nursing.pdf


The Anatomy and Physiology of the Human Prepucewww.coloradonocirc.org/pamphlets.php
Scott, Steve. “The Anatomy and Physiology of the Human Prepuce.” Male and female Circumcision,
edited by Denniston et. al, Kluwer Academic/Plenum Publishers New York, 1999, pp. 9-18

Foreskins for Keeps: An Idea Whose Time Has Come
LeMay, Gloria, “Foreskins for Keeps: An Idea Whose Time Has Come” www.midwiferytoday.com/articles/foreskins.asp
Midwifery Today, Issue 81, Spring 2007, pp. 32-3, 67-88

How Male Circumcision May Be Affecting Your Love Lifewww.coloradonocirc.org/pamphlets.php

Abstract: Fine-touch pressure thresholds in the adult penis
Morris L. Sorrells, James L. Snyder, Mark D. Reiss, Christopher Eden, Marilyn F. Milos, Norma Wilcox, Robert S. Van Howe. Fine-touch pressure
thresholds in the adults penis. British Journal of Urology (BJU) International, April 2007, Volume 99, Issue 4, Page 864-9.
Full study available at: www.nocirc.org/touch-test/touchtest.php

Miscellaneous Materials and Additional Pamphlets

Answers to Your Questions About Infant Circumcision (NOCIRC #4)www.nocirc.org/publish/

Answers to Your Questions About Your Young Son’s Circumcised Penis (NOCIRC #5)www.nocirc.org/publish/

Answers to Your Questions About the Bioethicswww.nocirc.org/publish/
Of Infant Circumcision (NOCIRC #10)

Conscientious Objection to the Performance of
Non-therapeutic Circumcision of Children www doctorsopposingcircumcision.org/DOC/publications.html
Addressing Questions About HIV and Circumcision Request through Colorado NOCIRC / www.coloradonocirc.org

Summary of Articles & Resources at Mothering.comfrom:www mothering.com/articles/new_baby/circumcision/circumcision.html

Downloads & Further Resources

Full Disclosure: Circumcision Information for Health Professionals and Parents www.icgi.org/Downloads/FD2.pdf
The International Coalition for Genital Integrity

Circumcision and Penile Care Resources for Birth Care Providers www.icgi.org/birth_care_providers.htm
The International Coalition for Genital Integrity

Circumcision, Breastfeeding and Maternal Bonding
Information Available Online


Exerpts from The Breastfeeding Answer Bookwww.cirp.org/library/birth/mohrbacher1/
Nancy Mohrbacher, Nancy and Stock, Julie. The Breastfeeding Answer Book, (Third Revised Edition).
La Leche League International, Schaumburg, Illinois, 2003.,

Letters to La Leche League Internationalwww.llli.org/llleaderweb/LV/LVOctNov00p94.html
LLLI: Letters to La Leche League International. Leaven. Vol. 36 no. 5. Ocotber November 2000. pp. 94-95

CIRCUMCISION by Marian Tompson, co-founder of La Leche Leaguewww .icgi.org/birth_care_providers.htm#breastfeeding
The People's Doctor: A Medical Newsletter for Consumers" by Robert S. Mendelsohn, M.D. Vol. 4, No. 12, p 8.

ELECTIVE SURGERY FOR YOU OR BABY excerpt from "The Womanly Art of Breastfeeding,"www .icgi.org/birth_care_providers.htm#breastfeeding
La Leche League International, Franklin Park, Illinois, July 1981: 92-93.

News Bulletin: Circumcision Leads to Breastfeeding Complicationswww .mothering.com/sections/news_bulletins/december2005.html
Journal of Human Lactation 19(1), 2003.

Circumcision vs Breastfeedingwww.circumstitions.com/Nursing.html
Pamphlet & Other informationwww.circumstitions.com/Docs/nursing.pdf

Circumcision and Penile Care Resources for Birth Care Providers www.icgi.org/birth_care_providers.htm
The International Coalition for Genital Integrity
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circumcision scars can cause cancer.

Carcinoma developed in circumcision scars on the penile shaft.


The tumors involved the prepuce (n = 1), prepuce and distal shaft (n = 1), circumcision scar line (n = 2), circumcision scar line and distal shaft (

post #38 of 56
Found this link, not sure if anyone has seen it or not, but it's got good info as well.

post #39 of 56
I don't think this one has been posted:

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Conservative Treatment of Primary Phimosis

Mentions that the foreskin is important and that circumcision is mutilation.

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