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post #1 of 26
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My contacts have been bothering me lately, both in the sense of comfort and in the sense that contact solution is one of the few remaining products I use which consist of a chemical cocktail of ingredients I don't understand. So I started looking into natural eyesight improvement. I've been reading a book called Relearning to See , which apparently uses the "Bates Method" to get you to learn to focus again. It's been less than 24 hours, so I can't report back yet, but I was wondering if anyone had any success/failure stories about this and/or any tips.

I wasn't sure, by the way, if this was the best forum for this inquiry, but since my primary motive here is reducing my dependence on a body care product, I decided to go for it. . . .
post #2 of 26
I am interested to hear your results because I have been wearing glasses for years and find them very uncomfortable... I have a very difficult time wearing contacts because they dry my eyes out.
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post #4 of 26
Thread Starter 
melissa17s, I'll be sure to keep you posted--but I'll warn you in advance that I'm quite good at tricking myself into thinking things are working (a sort of reverse hypochondria, I suppose)!
post #5 of 26
My sister is an eye doctor so Ill ask her if she has any info. One thing I can tell you is I used the Accomotrac for years (similar to bates) to train my eyes to not need glasses and it didnt work at all.
post #6 of 26
I've been hearing about the "See Clearly Method" on the radio. Wonder if Bates is the same thing...?
post #7 of 26
Failing the exercise route, anyone know anything about LASIK?
post #8 of 26
I've known a number of people who have had LASIK who are thrilled with it. My husband had it a few years ago and now one of his eyes is fairly farsighted. He doesn't wear any corrective lenses yet, but he does ask me to read certain small print to him.

My sister is an optician and the first thing she wanted to know upon finding out that he got LASIK was whether he had to wear reading glasses yet. I told her no and she said, "He will." We already knew that was a possibility. I am so nearsighted, however, that I don't think I would mind that as a trade off. Plus the people I've known who have gotten LASIK are all in their upper 30's early 40's, so the farsightedness thing was most likely going to happen anyway.
post #9 of 26
I talked to my sister the eye doctor and she said that those methods to retrain your eyes rarely work and if they do it would be something you would have to keep up for the rest of your life.
post #10 of 26
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I talked to my sister the eye doctor and she said that those methods to retrain your eyes rarely work and if they do it would be something you would have to keep up for the rest of your life.
No offense but, thats like going to an alopathic dr. for a naturopathic remedy. Or a pharmacist for food healing.
Or an ob for a homebirth.
Why would an eye doc give advice that would heal life-long customers or potentially destroy the optical industry?

Here are some good links, I keep meaning to try it, but can never seem to discipline myself enough to keep it up.
http://www.iblindness.org/
http://www.geocities.com/visionmethods/
post #11 of 26
Subscribing, When I have more time I am going to tell me story with this. Gotta run for now....great thread.
post #12 of 26
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Originally Posted by andrea
No offense but, thats like going to an alopathic dr. for a naturopathic remedy. Or a pharmacist for food healing.
Or an ob for a homebirth.
Why would an eye doc give advice that would heal life-long customers or potentially destroy the optical industry?
Oh my gosh how insulting! Because the reason she became an eye doctor was to help people see, not to make money!
post #13 of 26
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Oh my gosh how insulting! Because the reason she became an eye doctor was to help people see, not to make money!
I'm not meaning to be insulting, but the optical industry is right side along with the corrupt pharmaceutical idustry. Its all about making money by putting bandaids on others problems.
The bates method does work for some so if she is truly legit in trying to help people see, then why is she discrediting it?
post #14 of 26
Actually, I thought that the opinion of an opthamologist/optometrist would be worth hearing. Anyone else have relatives or friends in the field??
post #15 of 26
Thread Starter 
Thanks for all the useful info so far, guys--and I'm looking forward to hearing some of those stories. I would personally welcome observations from those within the mainstream eye care industry as well as those outside it; my impression is that while institutions may create a bias against methods that undermine them, individuals are genuinely interested in helping people, regardless of how that's done. This seems true of the Bates method as well. Everything I've seen thus far includes links and resources that involve paying cash, especially for books and teachers. For all that, I'd imagine that very few people decide to teach the method if they don't have a reason to believe in it themselves. Ditto for optometrists and so forth. Which is a long way of saying any information is good information, as far as I'm concerned.

As for Relearning to See , I'm very ambivalent thus far. There's a lot of questionable information--I'm very suspicious when people say that things absolutely won't work if you don't believe in them fully--and much that seems to be to be flat-out wrong. But I'm finding some of the ideas about how we see to be fascinating. It's too soon for me to say if they're working; like I said, I tend to see improvement where there is none, but they're certainly thought-provoking. The chief "lesson" I've picked up so far is that in many ways I've given up on seeing clearly; when confronted with a blur in the distance viewed without glasses or contacts, I just let my eyes glaze over. This book suggests that we stop trying to see everything at once and practice zeroing in on specific details. Following this advice may not have affected my vision yet, but it has affected my seeing, if that distinction makes sense.

I wouldn't really mind if this were something I had to "work on" for the rest of my life; this particular book, at least, emphasizes that its suggestions are not exercises, but rather habits of good seeing that we need to re-learn, and I'm pretty down with that. But I'm going to have to notice more verifiable improvement before I make up my mind. In the meantime, I'll keep practicing. . . . (oh, and my sister is preparing to have Lasik, so I'm following that with interest as well).

Dude. Sorry about the super long post, by the way.
post #16 of 26

Here is my two cents.

Hi everyone.

About 6 years ago when I wanted to switch from wearing contacts to glasses again to give my weary eyes a break from 20 years of constant contact wearing I ended up in an optomotrist's office who was retraining her patients eyes to see better. (Holy run on sentence!!!)

A bit of background info. My sister wore glasses (clincically blind) since she was two. She had lasik about 10 years ago with great success. Both my parents wear glasses (my mom with an incredibley strong prescription) and my dad with a slightly less strong. Mine was average, not deterioating much over the years.

When I decided to go back to glasses for a while, I was introduced to myopia retraining therapy. Basically you have periods throughout the day where you do not rely on your glasses to see. The constant strain on the eye actually tightens the muscles and tones the lens. I have been doing this for about 6 years know and my astigmatism (mild) is now gone and my prescription has improved. Which in itself is curious because contacts are more likely to keep your eyesight stable and going back to glasses you would think I would have degressed but alas I improved!

I also have improved my diet to contain all the nutrients that are vital to optimum eyesight. I also started seeing a chiropractor who corrected a life long neck issue that may have affected blood flow to the regions where the nerves to the eye are housed.

Like any alternative therapy, it rarely is successful on its own, couple it with other therapies such as nutrition, cranial sacral therapy, chiropractic or acunpuncture and success is eminent.

HTH
post #17 of 26
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Everything I've seen thus far includes links and resources that involve paying cash, especially for books and teachers.
The 2 links Ive included above do not ask for money of any kind. The first link incudes 2 free EBooks on their site as well.
post #18 of 26
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Originally Posted by andrea
The 2 links Ive included above do not ask for money of any kind. The first link incudes 2 free EBooks on their site as well.
Apologies, Andrea. I posted before I had a chance to look at those links. They do seem to offer a great deal of useful (and free!) information.
post #19 of 26
I don't know if this is the same, but I had "vision therapy" as a kid through my optometrist. It helped strengthen the eye muscle and practice focusing and the like. Sometimes when I go back for an appointment I get a "homework assignment" of an eye exercise. But I have weird vision: far-sighted at age 6 (and now) but not degenerating. (I have reading glasses, but can get by without them and the prescription hasn't changed.)
post #20 of 26
The See Clearly Method is actually contacts but different.

You wear the contacts at night and it squishes the lens into the correct shape for normal vision. Then during the day you see normally. Then at night you put them back in. I found it rather amazing but it is more expensive.
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