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how long to exclusively nurse?

post #1 of 39
Thread Starter 
I exclusivly nurse Ana. My family oten tells me how tiny she is and tells me to give her cereal. Should I take their advice and do both or should I wait till our doctor tells us it is neccessary. Ana is about 12-13 pounds. What do you think?:
post #2 of 39
It can be so difficult dealing w/wellmeaning family and friends, but listen to your body and your baby. The charts at the MD's office really reflect ff babies, not bf babes. My ds weighed 11 lbs. 12 oz at 3 mo. He has always been in the 5th-10th percentile, but is healthy and his doc has never given me a difficult time about his size. A baby at 3 mo. doesn't need cereal. Breast milk is the perfect food for your baby. Check out www.promom.org for 101 reasons to bf your baby.

Best of Luck~

Lisa
post #3 of 39
tell your family that the american academy of pedicatrics says that babies should have NO OTHER FOOD BESIDES BREASTMILK FOR 6 MONTHS!
and some babies are not ready for solids even then. cereal does not help babies gain weight or sleep through the night.
just smile and nod and say thanks for the advice, we'll ask the pediatrician. and then keep doing what you're doing.
post #4 of 39
Cereal has FEWER calories per ounce than breastmilk. If it's bulky and fills your Dd's stomach and she doesn't want as much milk, that's even more calories lost.

I don't trust those weight charts at all - look at our adult population on whom at least the original weight charts are based; diabetes, obesity, heart disease, uggh, what things to aim for.
post #5 of 39
shoshannas mom couldn't have said it better.

And the charts at the pediatrician are for formula fed babies. Your baby is growing fine and is too young for anything other than breastmilk. Keep up the good work!
post #6 of 39
I agree - wait until 6 months!

Baby's reflexes to swallow cereal or other food is not developed enough until then anyway - there is no point in pushing it earlier. Just keep nursing on cue, as much as she wants, and I am sure she be fine!
post #7 of 39
echodonn,

i was at a La Leche League meeting today at which this was the topic. I was starting to question exclusively breastfeeding my almost 6 month old dd, but they really reinforced my decision. There is a lot of info to support waiting on any solids in The Womanly Art of Breastfeeding, as well as the Nursing Mother's Companion. Both great books!

Two other things they mentioned were the benefits of waiting on the reduced incidence of food allergies appearing and the fact that breastmilk has so many immunities from mama (and whatever cereal, etc., means babe is usually having less breastmilk).

In general I also find it hard to listen to people's well-meaning advice. I'm surprised at how vulnerable I often feel as a new mom, and how hard it is to remain confident in my knowledge of my dd and listening to her needs instead of the 'conventional wisdom' of others.
post #8 of 39
Thread Starter 

thank you!

I am really interested in reading literature to improve my philosophies, I think those books will be a big help. Also, while feeding Ana the first and only time rice cereal she spit up a lot(more than usual), that is what initially sent my red flag up.
I love nursing exclusively because it is so easy. I will not see my doctor till september so I wanted to ask all of you, I know that what the doctor says is best but I think Ana can wait for a couple more weeks and I hope he agrees with you all. Thank you for the wonderful discussion I look forward to more posts!
IN PEace, Eileen :better
post #9 of 39
I have to clarify a few things that other posters have said. First of all, the AAP says that babies should be exclusively breast fed for the first four to six months of life and that breast feeding should be the primary form of nutrition for babies until they are a year old. Secondly the charts at the doctors office are not always based on formula fed babies. The AAP came out with new charts in May 2000 and most doctors are using them now. The new charts are *either* based on formula feeding or on breast feeding. As your doctor which charts they use! The AAP has also come out with new charts that are based on ethnicity, but those aren't widely used.

Echodonn, how old is Ana?

What I did with Annabelle was exclusively breast feed until she was six months old, then I slowly introduced solids. I used the chart given in "The Baby Book" and used the preparation ideas in "Super Baby Food". I did not allow any of the highly allergenic foods into Annabelle until she was a year old. I did not allow any nuts or soy until she was two, at my ped's suggestion as I have food allergies. Annabelle does have a reaction to soy, but I think that's because she's getting the antibodies from my breast milk. Annabelle just turned two and still breast feeds, if that helps at all.

I really didn't force solids on Annabelle and she really didn't have an interest in them until she was a year old. Looking back I would not change a thing : )

Hope this helps!
post #10 of 39
IMO 3 mo is too young for food feeding.

What's the rush? I see she's born in May, 12 to 13 lbs. How much did she weigh at birth?

Is the doctor supportive of exclusive bf'g 'til six months?

Enough questions. Go bf your baby and don't second-guess yourself. You're doing fine.

- Amy
post #11 of 39
I suggest that you contact an LLL consultant and ask for a list of Pediatricians who are also lactation consultants. I think that this is VERY important because even though a regular pediatric doctor may be in favor of your breastfeeding he may not know how to handle the different situation that may come up. He might even tell you to combine with cereal or something instead of telling you how to modify YOUR diet or your nursing techniques in order to help your baby gain weight or whatever else is causing a problem.

There could be many reasons why Ana isn't as chubby as you want her to be. "Maybe that is just the way she is". Maybe she doesn't know how to suck correctly or hard enough. Maybe she just needs more frequent feedings. A LC is the key.

My daughter had problems at the begining and wasn't gaining too much weight. So I decided to co-sleep and now she has become a "betty boop" if you know what I mean, with all those night feedings. She is now 8 mo and is exclusively breast fed. No water, no cereal no nothing....just 100% mama's milk. And I intend to keep it that way until she is 1yo. Her doctor is also a LC and she agrees with what I am doing.

I let her suck on my breast even when she has fallen asleep because even though she is sucking for comfort she is also getting at least "some" milk that way.

You can try long feedings on one breast at a time. At least 20 min until the fatty milk comes in. Squeezing your breast while feeding also helps, it really does.

I also read in a Dr. Sears book that you can do short feedings on each breast alternating them every time the baby would slow down or get distracted. Burping her well and then going on to the other breast. This made the Milk Ejection Reflex work more rapidly so the fatty part of the milk would come sooner.

Also remember that if you do give her something other than breast milk...your milk supply will be less- Then you will REALLY have problems.

Don't pay attention to all those comments. Even though the mean well. I know that it's frustrating because it happend to me but I also know that the best milk in the world comes from mommy. And I have a healthy happy baby to prove it. People who see me breastfeeding her always ask: What else do you feed her besides breast milk. And I smile and say "Just the food GOD sent her...My milk". Their jaws drop and they end up saying things like: "WOW, it comes to show that there's nothing better that breast milk".

I encourage you to keep up the good work!!! Everything will turn out just fine.
post #12 of 39
I was just reading through your other posts, Echodonn, and I saw that Ana is only eleven going on twelve *weeks* old. Tell your family to stuff it, and that Ana is getting the best food on earth!
post #13 of 39

I need help! :)

Hi, I have been looking through the topics to ask my own question... would you mind replying?

I bf my baby from the start. As a first time mom, I didn't know much but that I wanted to bf exclusively. Luca slept through the night from the beginning however and I didn't know better to wake her to feed. I lost a lot of my milk and have struggled ever since. Luca is 6 mos now and I have boosted my milk with fenugreek, mother's tea, brewers yeast. Also through the SBS feeding system. I have to supplement unfortunately.

I alternate between: breast, formula and raw goat milk. The formula is for the added nutrients although I am learning to add to the goat's milk now and will only occasionally use the formula.

I plan to bf as long as I can. I have read so many posts from people who were able to exclusively bf. I envy them. I wish I could. What do you all think of the menu I have now and should I just start her on solids in place of the formula? If so, when and what? Please help. I don't know where to turn.

And please, anyone who reads this, don't take for granted your ability to bf. If I could find a wetnurse, I would use her milk. It was such a hard time when I didn't have enough milk. I have finally become satisfied that I can feed her 1/2 time bm.
post #14 of 39

books on solid foods

p.s. elizabeth, could you email me or post the authors of the two books you mentioned that helped you so much?

allisanicole@aol.com
post #15 of 39

5/8/02 baby & 12-13lbs

Hi there my ds was born on 5/8/02 and when we went to the ped. @ 2 weeks ago he weighed 12 lbs. my doctor said nothing to me about his weight. I truly would not worry about it & try to ignore what others say. You are giving your baby the best stuff on earth. TRUST YOUR INTINCTS! You truly know if your baby is heathly. Good luck- Katie
post #16 of 39
"The Baby Book" is by Dr Sears and "Super Baby Food" is by Ruth Yaron. I got them both from Amazon.com : )

HTH!
post #17 of 39
Allie!!!!

I think the problem is that you are supplementing your baby's feedings with something other than your own milk. That is only going to reduce your supply of breastmilk!

I suggest you breastfeed your baby- and by this I mean directly to the breast (no pumping) as often as your baby needs it ... for as long as she wishes to. The more your baby feeds directly on your breasts and the longer she does it ...the more milk you will produce. That's the way it works! If she only stimulates your breasts 1/2 the time you will only produce 1/2 the milk she needs. Your body thinks that your daughter only needs that amount of milk, you see? Offer her your breast as often as possible for comfort when she gets an 'owie' or gets scared or to calm her down when she crys or to help her sleep or whatever...just as you would do with a pacifier. Oh, and this also means--DON'T use a pacifier (just in case you do). I would also try co-sleeping with her in order to have her stimulate the milk glands 24/7.

--Drink lots of liquids. Eat healthy. Use supplemental vitamins for yourself if you wish.

--Stay *caaalm* and avoid stressful situations because that can affect your milk supply.

--Read Dr. Sears books.

--Contact a La Leche League consultant as soon as possible (right now). Don't wait any longer to get professional help because your milk could dry out and I know you don't want that.

Just hang in there. I don't know if this the solution to your specific problem but remember there IS a solution to basically every breastfeeding problem so don't give up. I'm sure Luca will someday thank you for doing your best.

I really hope to have helped you or anyone else in some way. Please keep us posted! Good Luck.
post #18 of 39
Such fantastic, wonderful ideas!!!!
post #19 of 39
I just checked out the Dr. Sears site . It is full of information on parenting topics. Go to the breastfeeding index for more help with your bf issues. It's askdrsears.com
post #20 of 39

But what about her getting milk?

Okay, I mean, I am so willing to do ANYTHING and EVERYTHING, believe me. But, because my milk supply is so low, she gets upset when there is no milk. I understand the ideas but she is six months old, if I don't have the milk, she won't have anything to eat. Should I not give her anything for that meal replacement? I don't understand. I don't want my supply to dry up and it has increased with fenugreek, brewers yeast red raspberry and pumping when she is asleep. I do stay relaxed as best I can. I want to do what you are saying but then when I have just a small amount of milk, what do I do? I usually feed her at the breast until she gets fussy when there isn't more. I switch sides frequently and squeeze the breast. I burp her etc. But when that won't do anymore, I either feed her 4-6 oz of formula or raw goat milk. HELP! I value all the wisdom here but help me make it so that she doesn't go without getting her tummy satisfied.

And, thanks again for your advice, time and care. Allie
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