I agree with Sustainer.
I also wanted to add that I don't agree personally with "eating meat at any cost". No, I don't eat veal or force-fed lamb or goose livers. But would I eat a chicken who has lived a better lifestyle than me? YES! Would I eat grass-fed, pastured, organic beef? Yes! I think there's a difference and I do want the animals I and my family eats to be healthy and well cared for, for both ethical and nutritional reasons.
MamaAllNatutral, yes you're making sense to me on the eating animals / slavery argument. I don't understand how something some
humans have been doing for a blink of the eye from an evolutionary perspective can be compared to how we all
have lived since we first walked upright carrying our giant animal-slaying club and wearing our animal pelt for warmth. I also think comparing a certain human race or religion to animals to be racist itself... like there's no difference between shackling a man and yoking a water buffalo.
Nice. So I guess now if I keep a gypsy moth caterpillar in a cage with leaves and sticks to show dd and ds how it spins a cocoon, etc.... that I'm equivalent to a slave owner. Oh, and I'd love to hear about this from people who, um, ya know, OWN pets for their own pleasure and amusement.