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Poll Results: Why AREN'T you a vegan/vegetarian?

 
  • 11% (32)
    I believe animals are here to serve us
  • 25% (71)
    I like the way animal products taste way too much to not eat them
  • 0% (1)
    I have never thought about the cruelties of factory farming
  • 7% (20)
    It's all I know. Eating meat was how I was raised. I never considered anything else
  • 51% (145)
    I believe it is the healthiest way for me to eat
  • 0% (1)
    I'm on a fad diet like atkins that condones eating meat
  • 1% (5)
    I think vegans are weirdos and don't want to grouped in with them
  • 3% (9)
    I have never heard a good argument against eating meat, but would change if I did
284 Total Votes  
post #21 of 198
I tried going vegetarian for a while when I was a teenager, and it was really difficult for me. I grew up in a meat and potatoes household, and I love meat.

I'm slowly cutting out a lot of meat from my diet, and leaning more and more toward going vegetarian, both for health and humanitarian reasons. I don't think that I'm quite ready to make the jump to being 100% vegetarian, but I'm slowly getting there, and I'm definitely much more conscious of my eating habits.
post #22 of 198
I didn't vote, as my reason wasn't there. The healthiest reason comes close, but I know my body is better off without meat in every way except for one thing - iron. I have an iron problem, it drops very fast. I was a vegetarian for years and became very sick. I started taking iron supplements but they bound me up. Also, you can't take them for long, and during the off periods my iron dropped.

No other food seemed to bring it back up or maintain it. I tried, because I am an animal activist and a Buddhist to boot (no harm to sentient beings and all). So, I intend to go veggie again soon, but will stay eating fish, unfortunately, and just supplement now and again.
post #23 of 198
My main reason isn't on your list. My main reason is that I don't think it's any more immoral to kill animals than it is to kill plants. Plants are living things, too, just like animals. We have to kill and eat living things in order to survive.

My secondary reason is that I'm a very picky eater, and meat is one of the few things I enjoy. I don't like beans or most nuts, or any of the other vegetarian sources of protein. I voted "I like the taste of meat too much to stop eating it."

I do not support factory farming. I eat only organic, free-range meat.
post #24 of 198
I voted that I felt it was the healthiest diet for me (for where I am in my life now). I should also say that I was a vegetarian for many years, & started to eat a bit of meat when I was pregnant with my first. Also, DH is very convinced that eating a bit of red meat is good for him (low iron thing)- he was a vegetarian for a few years, too, btw. We try & get the best possible meat we can- finding organic is always a nice surprise. And we eat reef fish about once a week (Great Barrier Reef, that is ). Our eggs are our own, & most dairy stuff comes from a local organic place. Tonight we ate vegetarian- fresh corn was our protein source. Not tops, but we'll do something different tomorrow.

I've thought about the raw foods diet a number of times, mostly because it makes sense to me. I guess I've never thought I had the willpower to carry it thru. I think humans are built to crave things like simple carbohydrates (sugars), protein, & fats, based on our evolutionary history. Hence, so much food available today makes it tough to make good choices..........

my two bobs worth anyway.
post #25 of 198
I eat meat because I believe it is the healthiest way to eat for most people. We eat free range, organic meat, eggs and milk. After reading the article in Mothering about Soy, I am inclined to not eat soy anymore except for organic soy. Not sure about Boca burgers which I happen to love.
post #26 of 198
Quote:
Originally Posted by kms1s
Humans are evolutionarily designed to be omnivores...
...what she said, and that what the next poster said: I don't think there is anything ethically wrong with eating meat, given that we are animals too.

I didn't vote in the poll either. Nothing seemed to fit.

I don't think vegetarianism is unhealthy or anything. I know a vegan diet can provide all of the nutrients a human needs. I just think it's a personal choice. And this choice can change during a lifetime. I know quite a few former vegetarians, and quite a few former omnivores.
post #27 of 198
I didn't take the poll because it was obviously biased.

I was a vegetarian for years, but with my pregnancy developed really intense cravings for red meat. Turned out I had severe anemia.

Even now, if i don't eat animal products ocasionally I get sick. We eat flesh about 0nce a week.
post #28 of 198
I can't vote on this poll either. Kms1 covered much of the reasons we eat meat in this family. Sustainer covered a few more.

I don't believe "animals were created to be eaten" except in that every living thing on this planet is eaten by something. "The One Life Feeds On Itself"--chapter title of an interesting book of essays on Motherhood. I don't do Creation, but there most certainly is a natural cycle of life and death of which we are a part, no matter how much our culture tries to deny that.

Also and somewhat an aside:

It is entirely possible to write a poll that covers the full spectrum of reasons for something. I find the concept that the OP made a biased poll because she is a Vegan herself to be insulting--to her. Someone who can make such a decision for well thought out reasons, which I presume her to be, can also figure out valid reasons for the "opposing" viewpoint. I am frequently disappointed in RL polls too. The bias of the originators of the polls should be undetectable if a valid result is truly desired.
post #29 of 198
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ellien C
...what she said, and that what the next poster said: I don't think there is anything ethically wrong with eating meat, given that we are animals too.

I didn't vote in the poll either. Nothing seemed to fit.

I don't think vegetarianism is unhealthy or anything. I know a vegan diet can provide all of the nutrients a human needs. I just think it's a personal choice. And this choice can change during a lifetime. I know quite a few former vegetarians, and quite a few former omnivores.
Ditto.
post #30 of 198
I was a vegetarian for a long time, too. I still eat mostly veg, but I listen to my body and eat meat whenever I want to and anyone else here, including my children, is "allowed" to too.

One of the huge deciding factors for me was that I thought it was important to share freely and gratefully when offered food by dear friends and family. I have no moral problems with meat-eating. I decided to make it a non-issue.
post #31 of 198
Quote:
Originally Posted by Meiri
It is entirely possible to write a poll that covers the full spectrum of reasons for something. I find the concept that the OP made a biased poll because she is a Vegan herself to be insulting--to her.
Are you referring to what I wrote? If you I'm afraid you've misunderstood. I wrote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by misfit
the OP is vegan and writing from her POV
I wrote absolutely nothing about whether sebastiansmommy could have assumed another point-of-view. What she can do is hers to decide and not mine to judge.

My statement was that sebastiansmommy is a vegan and the poll is written from a vegan POV.

Thanks for letting me clear that up.
post #32 of 198
I agree with Meiri that it should be possible for a vegan to write a poll that isn't so anti-omnivore. We shouldn't have to choose between things like 'I think all other animals were put on this Earth to serve ME' and 'I just don't know any better.' You know? It IS insulting to us.
post #33 of 198
I'm mostly vegetarian but eat a little meat now and then if my body needs it or someone cooks it and offers. I love beans, rice, veggies.
post #34 of 198
Quote:
Originally Posted by kavamamakava
I just finished the article and there was not one nutritional reason why being a vegetarian was unhealthy. It should be titled "The Myths of Veganism" since many of the myths are answered with suggestions of eating dairy or eggs.
ITA.
That article was very misleading, and a little alarmist. I was born and raised in a place where we had a saying, "You can't toss a salad without hitting a vegetarian" - the majority was v*gan. (I was not until the last six months).
I didn't know a single person who had malnutrition, recurrant miscarriages, or any of those horrible health problems he suggests v*gans will get (however I do know a LOT of carnivores with those problems. :P). I think a healthy, balanced, omnivorous diet can be good. Just as a health, balanced v*gan one can.
post #35 of 198
I tried beging veggie for about six months, but it was just too complicated. Few choices when eating out. Couldn't enjoy the same foods my family was eating on holidays. Couldn't try the local specialties when travelling. Couldn't eat much at catered events, that typically had little in the way of non-meat fare. I felt very limited, and at the same time as though I was obsessing over what I ate.

My reasons for being veggie had to do with not wanting to support inhumane breeding/slaughtering processes, not because I felt eating meat is wrong. Also I did not want to consume the toxins, hormons, and antibiotics in factory-raised meat. So my compromise is that we only eat organic meat, whether that's beef, poultry, or fish. Also only organic dairy, and we get our eggs from a local farm where the chickens are free-range.

I voted that I feel eating meat is the healthiest choice for me, but I didn't think that was the closest statement to explain why I'm not veggie.

I would probably say something more like, "After considering all the options, I don't feel that eating humanely-treated animals is wrong."
post #36 of 198
I agree the choices are biased. I voted "healthiest diet for me", although I wouldn't say I'm eating as healthy as I possibly could. My excuse for not being vegetarian used to be: I was "allergic" to soy, raw fruits and veggies, some cooked veggies, fish, and most nuts. However, those allergies turned out to be false. I could have voted for the atkins option, but the wording of it was insulting. I don't think low-carb is any more of a fad than vegan, it just happens to be gaining in popularity right now.
I agree with a lot that has been previously said: I feel just as bad killing plants as animals, and I feel I am biologically designed to eat meat. I think some diets are better for some than for others, thoguh. Take my dh. He went on a low-carb diet a year ago, lost 60 lbs, felt better, and had no problem with wanting to cheat (his diet invokves a heavy load of greens, and he cut out drinking milk recently when he realized it was making him sick). He also lost his chronic heartburn that was so bad it was untreatable with the strongest drugs. He realized for himself that bread, pasta and rice don't taste good, so now he just eats the sauce! However, I like bland foods, I will eat rice with just butter, so for me it is harder to give up carbs. Also when I got pg and had protein aversions, I had to bring back more (whole) grains just to feel like I was getting enough calories. I like the Paleo diet, but I'm a long way from being able to stick to it. My next goal is eating more organic free range foods.

I think that if you look at the compounds our bodies need for fuel and look at the sources, you will see a wide spectrum of combinations that fulfill pur needs.
When I eat meat or any other food, I try to give thanks to the Goddess and to that being for giving me its life energy and make a bit of a promise to myself to make sure that life energy is used in a positive way.
post #37 of 198
I understood you Misfit. I just took your explanation a step farther.

When doing a poll, the POV of the poll writer should be indicernable. I would be saying the same if an omnivore had written a similar poll biased in the other direction.
Surveys should be neutral. This one was not.

Why should anyone be expected to choose from among options that amount to her calling herself callous or foolish or selfish or lacking-in-knowledge?
post #38 of 198
There wasn't one to pick for me. I have bad food allergies and have a hard time finding non-animal foods to eat. An allergic reactions means my throat closes up, so I try to avoid those things Been to the ER too many times for that, plus right now I don't have the free time to hit the ER

I'm allergic to soy, mushrooms, peas, peppers, cherries, peach, pineapple, apricot & really all fruits except bananas. I'm also intolerant to citrus, tomatos, dairy, & I get severe stomach pains from pastas, so just avoid that when I can. I also have to avoid any foods that use fruit juice to flavor them. And due to dental issues, nuts are out (both hard nuts and nut butters). I have braces, bad TMJ, & fibromyalgia. Oh and digestive problems with my small & lower intestines, so this makes veggies hard to digest, which is painful. LOL yes, I'm falling apart.

I can tolerate meats and fish with out a problem so that is the bulk of my diet. I end up eating a very meat and potatos diet. I do make healthy choices (organic meats, no frying, etc). Most nights I eat broiled flounder with brown rice or maybe broiled chicken breast. I was also allergic to beef as a child (my allergies were worse then) and still can't really tolerate that much now.
post #39 of 198
Thanks Meiri, glad you understood me. So you understand I am not saying anything insulting, either to the OP or to anyone.
post #40 of 198
I've tried to be a vegitarian, can't do it. Last time I tried my kidneys shut down, before that I collapsed from lack of something.... my body doesn't like it no matter how balanaced a diet I am eating.
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