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Hi!

I'm especially speaking to the Jewish mothers who MUST preform this ritual at 8 days. Dion;t me like me; inform yourself!

I had a horrible experience with my son's circumcision. Immediately after my sons brit, he started a whole-body clonic jerking. I immediately rushed him to the Pediatrician. This constant jerking was so dramatic that unknowingly to me, my son's Sandek (my OB/Gyn) also called my pediatrician as soon as he left my home. 3 of the staff attendings at my busy NYC Peds office simultaneously assessed his neurological function, which they said was intact. The brightest of the group hypothesized that it may be a internalized response to trauma. This unnerving jerking lasted about 36 hours. Additionally, we went into a state of very deep sleep, and was difficult to arouse. Then I found an article published in the peer-reviewed article PAIN (2004) 107(3):242-55. Below is the abstract.

Comprehensive description of newborn distress behavior in response to acute pain (newborn male circumcision).

Warnock F, Sandrin D.

Center for Community Child Health Research, BC Research Institute for Children's and Women's Health, 4480 Oak Street, L408, V6H 3V4, Vancouver, BC, Canada. fwarnock@cw.bc.ca

One of the most difficult challenges still facing researchers and clinicians is assessing pain in the newborn. Behaviors provide one of the most promising avenues for deepening our fundamental understanding of complex phenomenon like newborn pain, and are key to developing descriptive-level knowledge to further newborn pain assessment efforts. In this ethologically based research, we report on the duration and frequency of neonatal distress behavior to seven distinct noxious and non-noxious but distress-provoking events including baseline (diaper change, post-diaper change, application of arm and leg restraints, post-application of arm and leg restraints, circumcision, post-circumcision) associated with newborn surgical pain. Approximately 67 min of videotaped data, involving four neonates who had undergone newborn male circumcision, were coded at 1-s intervals (4010 s in total). A reliably established coding scheme was used to code behaviors as they were observed on videotape for the duration of the seven designated events. This led to the identification of (1) 40 distress behaviors as they occurred along the continuum of distress, (2) eight distress behaviors specific to surgery, (3) 11 classes of behaviors occurring within the five sub-phases of circumcision, and (4) a description of 25 distinct post-distress behaviors. Findings support the ability to distinguish distress behaviors specific to pain and the ability to detect prolonged distress as well as individual differences in distress-related pain expression. Findings also justify ongoing use of ethological approaches to further newborn pain assessment and to investigate poorly understood topics such as infant self-regulation within the context of pain (pain recovery).


I wasn't an informed mother (and I have an Ivy PhD in Biochemistry). I was'nt myself because of a compressed L4 vertebrate during childbirth, and I was literally using a walker. At the same time, my baby had been in the NICU for 6 days for a slight temperature, so I had also been sleeping in the NICU. Because of all this, I allowed my husband to make all the arrangements with the mohel. Thus, my baby had NO anesthesia, and NO post-pain relief (even after we saw the pediatricians). Mothers who must circumcise, make these decisions/plans BEFORE your delevery, so your baby will be treated in a more humanitarian way than I allowed mine to be treated.

Jennifer
post #2 of 6
Thanks for your story- I'm sorry for all of the pain and trauma you and your family have been through. I hope everyone is ok.

Just want to point out that no mother, even us Jews, MUST circumcise their sons. It's a choice, and thankfully more and more Jews all over the world are starting to realize that and make better choices for their sons.

But your story provides an excellent warning to all mothers of all religions. So many people are in denial of the risks, pain, or trauma associated with circumcision.

Take care!
post #3 of 6
Thank you for your story, Jennifer.

There are some in the Jewish community that are promoting the bris as a "Kinder and gentler" way to circumcise a boy. The truth is that there is nothing kind or gentle about it. The pain for the child is extreme as evidenced by your son.

This promotion of the bris has convinced some non-Jewish mothers that they should find a mohel to perform the procedure and I have seen quite a few non-Jews posting on other boards looking for mohels who will circumcise their sons so that their son will not suffer the pain of a hospital circumcision. Unfortunately, there are enough who are promoting this that it is difficult to convince them that any circumcision is not a walk in the park for the child regardless of how it is done. Your story clearly illustrates this. I am certainly sorry you and your son had to endure this.




Frank
post #4 of 6
Thanks for your story. I also agree, it doesn't matter if the circ is done with the whole family praying around the baby or in a hospital strapped to a circ board. It hurts, and all the baby feels is that he is abandoned in pain.
post #5 of 6
I think it's interesting to think of circumcision at something that needs a plan, similar to a birth plan, AND communication with your partner.
I think most parents think deciding "yes or no" is the only part of the decision that needs to be discussed.

I think it's good information to know. In telling people there is more to the procedure and more they need to do, it may convince someone to skip the procedure entirely, but at the least get what you wanted Jennifer, pain relief for the baby.
I do wonder if your son's experience has perhaps changed those doctor's minds around, at least in regard to routine circumcision.
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