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post #1 of 10
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OK, I am not an expert at GD but I think I do a pretty good job of holding my feelings in check, using natural or logical consequences, etc.

But tonight my 7 y.o. DS did something that I just have no idea what to do with.

He carelessly kicked off his sneaker in the family room - it flew across the room and smashed into my wedding portrait, shattering the glass, sending it crashing to the brick fireplace mantel below and taking two handpainted glass candle holders with it. I reacted on so many levels - first, the fear that the shattering glass had a kid underneath it (and then the relief of realizing that nobody was hurt), the image of my wedding picture shattering was so upsetting...and then the glass everywhere (and keeping both kids away while I attempted to clean it up)...and then realizing that the picture itself is SO damaged it will definitely need professional retouching plus a new frame ($$$ and time I don't have!)...

And my son is SO hard on himself so I know he felt bad. I was in tears and my little 3 y.o. DS was beside himself with whom to comfort first. I couldn't have him help clean up - there were way too many very sharp tiny pieces of glass and I didn't want in any way to compromise his safety to prove a point. I spent about an hour cleaning up and I told DS that I didn't really know what the consequence would be; that I was really upset and needed some time to think about it (figured honesty was the best policy, even though I know that sometimes waiting for consequences can be harder than accepting them). I reassured him that I always love him and put him to bed with the normal routine - a warm bath, stories, cuddling in his bed...

The thing that gets me is that this isn't the first time he's done something careless that has resulted in the destruction of something important to me. He has issues with self control at school too. And I want the consequence not to be "payment" for the "crime," but a learning tool that will help him THINK before he does something so careless that has such big consequences. I know part of it is maturity but I guess I feel like he is old enough to know better (and we do have rules about where shoes go when they are taken off - I didn't think I had to be that specific about the manner in which they are removed!)...as I said I couldn't have him clean it up because it was unsafe; and he doesn't have a good sense of money so asking him to take money from his piggy bank to pay for the repairs isn't really appropriate to have him learn from the experience. And while the apology is meaningful, I don't want to let him go so easily because he's so hard on himself - I don't want him to learn that if he gets upset enough he can avoid any consequences...

Any ideas??????

(And does anyone know how reparable a scraped up portrait might be and how much I might expect to pay for that kind of work?????)
post #2 of 10
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Originally Posted by cariofthevalley
(And does anyone know how reparable a scraped up portrait might be and how much I might expect to pay for that kind of work?????)
I think these might be excellent questions for your 7-year-old to explore... if you think he's capable, of course. Do you think it would be a good lesson for him to do a lot of the legwork for getting the photo repaired/reframed? You and he could find numbers together. You could school him on what he needs to find out from people. He could make the calls (with you supervising).

It might help him to figure out how much work goes into fixing the effects of a careless act....
post #3 of 10
Honestly, it sounds to me like he's punishing himself enough right now that you don't need to do anything else. I've always beleived that I put consequences into place to help children learn their own inner sense of right and wrong- once they get that on their own, I don't think anything else NEEDS to be done. He feels awful and isnt' likely to repeat the "offense."

As far as touching up the photo- any chance the photographer still has the negative to make a new picture from? That might be easier,cheaper, and/or more effective.
post #4 of 10
I agree that no "punishment" is needed. He saw exactly what happened when he was careless. I'd venture to guess he won't kick a shoe off again any time soon.

-Angela
post #5 of 10
Just agreeing with the others. He seems to be very sorry and shocked by what happened. I think he'll be reflecting on it for awhile to come. I would be very upset if I were you, too. I'm sorry about your portrait.

Darshani
post #6 of 10
I agree that there shouldn't be any "punishment" as it wasn't an intentional act. It was an accident and he needs to learn that when you're goofing off, accidents can happen, but I think that all you need to do is have a good talk with him about it. Explain that you're upset that the picture was damamged and that even though he didn't mean for it to happen that it's a perfect example that he needs to act appropriately given the time and place. Tell him it's a lesson learned and let him help you do the legwork of getting it fixed, perhaps even help pay for it if you're an allowance type of family, but I wouldn't punish him for it. The logical consequence is that he will hurt someone he loves and I think he probably learned that lesson. Now just help him to verbalize the situation and learn from it.
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Originally Posted by Mama J Rock
The logical consequence is that he will hurt someone he loves and I think he probably learned that lesson. Now just help him to verbalize the situation and learn from it.
ITA. I just want to be clear that I wasn't meaning the suggestion in my post to be used as "punishment." It doesn't have to be a negative experience - it can even be a fun, interesting thing that you two do together. But I think it's important that as kids grow they learn how things happen, how they're taken care of, the work that goes into taking care of things. This seems like a prime opportunity to help him figure that out.
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Originally Posted by Dragonfly
I think these might be excellent questions for your 7-year-old to explore... if you think he's capable, of course. Do you think it would be a good lesson for him to do a lot of the legwork for getting the photo repaired/reframed? You and he could find numbers together. You could school him on what he needs to find out from people. He could make the calls (with you supervising).

It might help him to figure out how much work goes into fixing the effects of a careless act....
I think this is an excellent idea, especially done in a non-punitive way. Just the matter of fact consequence. A good lesson in the fact that accidents happen, but it doesn't mean that you don't still have to deal with the after effects. My dh didn't mean to scrape our car against the side of the garage when backing out, but he wasn't paying attention, and therefore had a mess to deal with - getting damage quotes, calling the insurance company, etc.
post #9 of 10
I originally was thinking along the lines of the responders who said that he is so upset about this incident that he doesn't necessarily need another consequence. However, it sounds like there is another issue here and that is the self control issue. I'm not sure how much is normal at this age. I know I've done some dumb things through the years and after the fact I ask myself "why did you do that, that was really stupid?" I never really know, and I don't want to mess up and do something that causes a mess for me, but at the time I don't forsee it happening. I remember one time I was unloading the dishwasher and my sister asked for a spoon. So I tossed one over my head and it hit our chandelier and broke some of the glass bowls. Oops! It wasn't really even a self control issue, I was just kind of caught up in the fun of the moment, you know.

At the same time, it is very frustrating to have a child who does destrtructive things repeatedly even if they are sorry or upset afterwards. My daughter is 5.5 and she seems to be really upset when she has done something wrong, but she deals with these feelings by denying that she is at fault. She likes the re-write history method. In that case, since she won't even acknowledge her culpability, I spend time working on that. The whole "just because you make a mistake doesn't mean you are a bad person, but we need to fix it" type of thing. It's difficult because I tend to get angry when she does destructive things, so I know she takes it personally.

Anyway, I definitely think the natural consequence of having to look into how to fix something that you've broken is a good one. Like when I broke the mirror off of my car backing out of the garage, after I finished beating myself up about it, I had to go and get it fixed.

Maybe he does destructive things upon occasion because he is perfectionistic and feels like he has to be controlled most of the time, but then has to let off steam at times and doesn't do it in constructive ways. I dunno, just a thought.
post #10 of 10
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I am inclined to agree that he definitely experienced the natural consequence of dealing with how upset I was. Being as sensitive as he is, I know that's definitely painful for him. I hadn't thought to include him on the legwork - maybe I don't give him enough credit for being "old enough" but he may be...And when it comes to reframing it he can definitely come along for that. Also, I have made that part of the family room off limits for now because I'm not 100% sure I got all the glass (its non-reflective which makes it especially hard). My plan was to work on it this weekend which will take time from other cleaning I need to do. A friend of mine suggested that perhaps he should spend time doing some of the other cleaning since I'll have to allocate time to the glass issue....that might be a logical consequence as well...I appreciate all the feedback! In the scheme of things, I know this isn't huge, but I was (and am) pretty upset about the picture and how careless his "mistake" was. Hopefully he'll learn from it!!!
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