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post #1 of 50
Thread Starter 
Hi! This is a support/encouragement thread for mamas who're blessed with high-needs babies.

My wonderful son is 9 months old and I've known he was high needs since about week 2. He's extremely active, doesn't sleep much and takes a long time to get to sleep, is very sensitive to his environment, loves people and not things, is very outgoing (though he's recently experiencing separation anxiety), and tends to get irritated very quickly if restrained/sitting still. I feel very lucky to have such an active, curious baby, though I often find myself feeling exhausted. My dh goes to work before ds is up and comes home at or after bedtime. So all week long I've got no help.

I thought maybe we could start by mentioning our greastest mothering challenges, so we can share ideas about how to best handle these areas. I'm always open to suggestions on how to be a better parent!

For me, I find two things most difficult:
1. the fact that Benjamin needs to be constantly moving. I can never rest for even a minute; he likes being in the sling, but he gets really upset if I stop even for a minute to do or look at something. I feel schitzophrenic half the time, always hurrying and flitting from one thing to the next. It's wearing me out.

2. the sleep issue, which kind of goes with the first one. Benjamin doesn't need to sleep much (he's got a natural 30 minute sleep cycle), and he wakes up often if I'm not with him (and even when I am). So that leaves me very little "me" time, which I guess is the hardest thing of all. I need a village to raise him! :LOL We don't live near family or friends, so I don't have a support network or alternate caregiver. I've tried to tell myself to "just give in" to it, but it's a hard theory to put into practice on a daily basis.

These two things are what make me irritable and short-tempered sometimes. I don't like feeling this way. I'm trying to be a good AP mama to Benjamin, but I feel like I fall way short sometimes. It'll be nice to know that there are other moms out there facing similar challenges.
post #2 of 50
Im glad you started this thread! I too knew my dd was not the average baby soon after she was born. She was so alert for a newborn. Her first early months are such a blur to me...there was walking up and down the street in the sling (we were in a tiny apartment and I felt like I was walking in circles), bouncing on the birth ball, rocking, dancing, swaying...and on and on. She is such a sweet baby with a very happy disposition as long as we are always receptive to what she needs. It's just not always easy. She nurses alllllll the time, sometimes just a quick snack, to know they are there!

The biggest challenges for me...

1. Doubting myself. I know deep down that she needs more of us. When nothing is working and we are not working on sleep I fear that I have created a child who will only respond to me. I *know* that isn't the case, but still it worries me. She is my first baby.

2. We live with my extended family. It is a great situation but we have a different parenting style than my parents or grandma. My parents worry about her cosleeping with us and will make some really well intended comments about her not manipulating us or 'running the show'. If we didn't all live together it would just not be an issue at all. But they see it all, when dd is doing GREAT and when I am exhausted and at the end of my rope. Im their dd and they hate to see me struggling. So, I guess all of this to say that it is hard to have a bad day that is just simply that without everyone trying to give me well intended advice because I am having a hard time somedays. That then feeds into me doubting what I am doing (even though I know it is right in my heart).

3) just an annoyance...'Your baby NEVER cries' It annoys me because she never cries in public (usually) because I am always tending to her needs. AND yet the same people would probably think I am being played by my baby by being so responsive. When she is doing well, its fine, but if she's fussy then the sling/bfing/etc all come into question.

when our babies are this little and we are this tired and poured out, it really feels like things are never going to change or get better. Especially with my first since I have nothing to compare this to. Yet I keep hanging on to how quickly she has changed and that people are dynamic and nothing really stays the same forever. My mantra: she has to sleep sometime...she has to sleep sometime....
post #3 of 50
Wow! Some of the things you guys have said really really hit home! Especially this:

Quote:
1. the fact that Benjamin needs to be constantly moving. I can never rest for even a minute; he likes being in the sling, but he gets really upset if I stop even for a minute to do or look at something. I feel schitzophrenic half the time, always hurrying and flitting from one thing to the next. It's wearing me out.
That's us exactly! She does not like to be still at all! Oop, she's awake, more later!
post #4 of 50
Back again....

Yes, dd likes to be on the move. She loves her sling but lately she squirms her legs so I tried to put her in the hip carry, but she can't stand facing in, so.....we got a Snugli and she likes that because she can face out and have her legs out

She loves it as long as we're walking but if I stop to look at something too long she fusses. I have learned to go shopping very quickly! No browsing here! And as soon as I come in the house after a walk she gets mad.

She has always nursed a lot, esp. for comfort.

She is a light sleeper a lot of the time, and it can take me a while to nurse her down at night.

She does not like to be held by other people for very long at all. Sometimes she looks at me and cries right away, much to others' dismay. I usually take her back right when she starts crying, and I know they think I'm overprotective but they can just shove it as far as I'm concerned.

Of course there's much more but I have to go for right now...

It's nice to not feel alone!

post #5 of 50
Thread Starter 
You're right, ms. pacman, it's nice not to feel alone. And I know what you mean about the bad advice and negative criticism at a time when you're least able to handle it, saritabeth. I get the same from my inlaws. MIL says ds needs to learn "he's not the center of the universe," and I recently got an email from FIL that had some parenting advice--basically that I'm being over-protective and smothering--this from a totally hands off father and grandfather. ugh.

Let me ask you guys this. What do you think of playpens for a short period of time? I sometimes need to do something w/o ds (like take something out of the dryer or oven) or I just get overwhelmed and need to plop him in it for a short "me" break to collect myself. Benjamin only lasts in it about 5 minutes before he starts fussing and then I take him out. I always feel guilty about putting him in there, like I'm not being a good AP mom. I can tell he's already getting wise to the whole thing--he knows now that when he goes in there I leave. What do you do when you need to have a break?
post #6 of 50
My ds definitely qualifies as "high needs". He's 3 months-old right now and although there have been improvements as he's gotten older, it seems that we take 3 steps forward and 2 steps back all the time.
Lately when he hit the 11 week mark, the fussiness decreased a bit during the day, but now he's up every 1-2 hours at night and is very hard to get back down to sleep. I'm sure a lot of you other moms deal with these difficult sleep issues. Has anything worked for you, or have you experienced this and then seem improvements over time?
I'm a little worried how dh and I will cope as our ability to deal with the "high needs" obviously decreases when we're totally exhausted. And, of course, the more tired he is, the more fussy...
post #7 of 50
My dd (20.5 months old) is very high needs, and we've know that since she was a newborn. She was very colicy, and in some ways never outgrew it! Seriously, though, the first three months of her life she was either eating or sleeping (which was rare), or she was crying. There was no awake, alert, non-crying time. It wore us out.

As she's gotten older, she's gotten "easier" in some ways, but more difficult in others. Obviously the constant crying ended, but she is still difficult to please. She gets frustrated easily and is incredibly hard to calm down. (Even now, sometimes nursing is the ONLY thing that soothes her - no rocking, talking to, etc. works - never has.)

She's incredibly smart and talked early, I think out of frustration to be understood. She loves to learn, and already knows colors, letters, numbers (only a few), talks in sentences, tells stories, has some books memorized, etc.

She demands constant attention. It's not enough for us to be in the same room with her, we have to be actively participating in her games at every second. (This is especially difficult now that we have a 1-month old as well!) I do think, however, that this demand for one-on-one attention is part of the reason she's learned so much. I consider her demanding nature a blessing in disguise. (On a good day! On a bad day I secretly wish she was one of those kids who would sit placidly in front of an episode of Sesame Street.)

It's always nice to know that there are other parents out there who are also dealing with a very needy child!
post #8 of 50
Congrats on your new baby maria! Sounds like you have your hands full!!

Playpens....I have a packnplay sport. It takes up the whole living room... but it is easy to put up and take down. I think it is such a cozy little 'fort'. Maybe when she is three she will think so! I got it all cozy for her but she really wasn't so into it. However, she is going to be crawling before I know it (she already walks several steps while holding onto my fingers ). I wouldn't mind her holding off a while!!! Anway, I *have* to have a safe place to put her for a few minutes. There are just times when she is going to be a little frustrated because it is the safest thing for her. I used to have to pull over every 2 miles in the car because she had a month of time that she HATED her car seat. Finally, it took me singing to a dan zanes cd at the top of my lungs for her to groove on something other than her own screams. I hated it but I really didn't have a choice. It just isn't safe for her to sleep in the sling while I drive. So, she was frustrated, but she learned and its MUCH better. In fact, she stops crying as soon as she hears the first three notes of polly wally doodle!

all that to say, Im not for dumping kiddos in the playpen just cause...sometimes we need to put them somewhere safe that isnt directly on top of us because we just have to. I try to make it a fun place to be with some of her favorite toys. Sometimes she plays really well on her own (no rhyme or reason to that!) and it works out great. Othertimes, she isn't so happy about it, but I am not juggling her and a pot of boiling water, KWIM?
I have a greater sense of peace when she is contained because I know the dog isn't licking her or the cat swatting at her (or ella trying to grab the dogs tail!)

Okay, I am rambling away.

Question for you guys...Have any of you found a magical way of getting your babies to nap or go to sleep at night without them on top of you? I can get her to sleep but she is suddenly not for me putting her down. Its really difficult for me because I really don't think I am asking for too much to have a few hours at night to myself or to spend with dh. I am *happy* to keep her in bed with us at night, but she really should be able to sleep on her own again....I just don't know what changed!

Im Sooooo happy you are here!
post #9 of 50
Question for you guys...Have any of you found a magical way of getting your babies to nap or go to sleep at night without them on top of you? I can get her to sleep but she is suddenly not for me putting her down. Its really difficult for me because I really don't think I am asking for too much to have a few hours at night to myself or to spend with dh. I am *happy* to keep her in bed with us at night, but she really should be able to sleep on her own again....I just don't know what changed!

Im Sooooo happy you are here![/QUOTE]


I've found that dd will go through phases where she has to sleep on top of me at night for awhile, just when I think I can't take it anymore, she stops. We've gone though many phases of this over time, she is now 23 months old. I know how frustrating it is, for naps it wasn't that bad because I brought a book and read, or sat in front of the computer and one handed typed, but I hated it at night. No advice other then it probably will pass soon, I never was able to find something that worked for dd other then waiting it out.

I am so happy to see this thread. I know dd was high needs at about a week of age, that is when the colic started. 5 months of screaming for hours and hours everyday, nothing ever really helped. I lost so such weight from bfing and pacing around the house! She has always been a momma girl, sometimes she still doesn't even want DH to look at her. She doesn't really warm up to many people, she absolutely loves my mother, and other then that, she could care less about any one else. Oh the car seat, talk about a nightmare. She has always hated it, just in the last few months, has she gotten better in it. I can actaully go short distances by myself now! It has been wonderful. I still have to plan one way for her to be asleep (we live 30 minutes from town), but it is ceratinly better then having to have someone drive me everywhere so I ride in the back with dd. She is just starting to walk into stores by herself this week, until then I've still had to carry her everywhere. She has pretty much spent her entire life in my arms! :LOL With me lugging her around all day, I've got some serious arm muscles! :LOL Now that dd is older, I don't know what is worse, the colic or the tantrums. We went to LLL today, and ran a couple errands,I am so exhausted, I feel like I've ran a marathon. She gets upset at every little thing, cries constantly, I could go on and on. DD is so worth it, she has many wonderful qualities, but sometimes I forget those. Right now bedtime is one of our biggest battles, it is usually a 2 hour process, and the entire time tonight, I was just thinking how much easier it would be if she wasn't high needs. Awful, I know, but I think that most of us have those feelings sometimes. With dd, I've noticed that everything comes and goes in phases, she will be extremely difficult to the point where I think I'm going to go insane, and then she gets better, certainly not easy, but not like she was, sleeping as well. We are also in the middle of a difficult sleep phase as well, so I hear ya on that one, even when it is "good" she still wakes up several times a night, she is finally taking decent naps for the first time in her life! She has never been a good sleeper, especially for naps, they were always about 20-30 minutes, with me holding her the entire time, here recently they have been an hour, and I can aactually lay her down and leave the room! It is wonderful, I use the time to just completely veg.
post #10 of 50
Thread Starter 
dmick--congratulations on your new babe. It's wonderful and exhausting, isn't it! I've gone thru many trials with getting ds to sleep. It's gotten better over time, but he still goes thru periods of not sleeping. Right now, he's taking a bit longer naps, but not sleeping at night. He wakes up every 15-30 minutes at night until I join him, and then he's awake every hour after that, just needing to be nursed to sleep. And then his new thing is to wake at 4am for the day. It's tough to get him to go back down. This is what I do if he wakes in the middle of the night--I don't get him up or stimulate him in any way. no diaper changes or play allowed. when he sits up I lay him back down. I keep doing that over and over again. I also keep it a little cool in the room so that he welcomes being under the cozy blanket. eventually he'll give up and go back to sleep. I'm not sure what's waking him during the night. frankly, I've give up trying to figure out the "why" of it all and just concentrate on changing what's happening because as soon as I have one thing figured out he does something different.

saritabeth--thanks for the playpen advice. I'm going to get a "proper" one today b/c ds keeps bonking his head on the side of the co-sleeper. as for sleeping . . . luckily ds doesn't want to sleep *on* me, but he does want me in there with him. And you're not wrong to want a few hours to yourself at night! That's the most important thing for me--I can get thru almost anything during the day if I know I've got even an hour break at night. I'm not sure what to suggest. I just lie there with ds until he's good and asleep--limp limbs--and then sneak out. it works sometimes and not others. Just hang in there and hopefully the phase will pass soon. Maybe she's just working on a milestone rigth now and needs reassurance you're there? I know that my ds has started having separation anxiety recently--won't let anyone else hold him. Maybe your dd is going thru something similar.
post #11 of 50
Thanks so much wise mamas!

We did have a better night which is most helpful. I am trying to just accept each day as it comes becuase there is little rhyme or reason.

Our living situation is a bit nutty right now, and i am also realizing that I need to be her safe haven who creates serenity amidst chaos. I really need to work on a more consistant night time routine, which ought to help her as well.

Who knows! Maybe it will work, maybe not...but it is one of those things that only time will tell. No quick fixes in motherhood!

Thanks ladies.

I have to vent for a moment. I thought I was all smart and bright and awesome by ordering my grocries on line. How great, right?! Well I was still juggling a crying baby and I some how reserved my order time, but the order didn't go through. I was slumming it on food last night feeling really great that the groceries would be her by ten am. Well ten am came and went with no groceries. I called and got all snotty with the guy about why my order isnt here and it turns out I must have not processed the order all the way through
So NOW I still have to go to the stupid grocery store and then hang around the house tomorrow afternoon in a 3 hour window to get my order that should have been here today.

I know you will all understand my off topic rant as it is SUCH A DRAG to grocery shop with the high needs child! Getting it all together to go, doing it, getting out of the store and putting it all away myself might as well be a trip to china.

anyway....love you ladies!!
sarita
post #12 of 50
Well, we had a much better night last night. It started out badly with ds waking after 15 minutes, becoming hysterical, and not going back to sleep until 11 p.m. But after that he slept a two hour stretch, and then a 4 and then another two! The only change last night is that in desperation we had ordered an Ionic Breeze air filter because of previous congestion issues, so we set that up underneath the heater vent. Who knows if that's helping. I told my husband he could be up every hour again tonight. You just take it day by day... But how nice to get a few hours stretch of sleep! I just shake my head with disgust and jealousy when I read about these mothers complaining that their babies wake up every 3-4 hours- that would be heavenly for us! People don't know how easy they have it!
post #13 of 50
I'm subscribing to this thread.

Darian (8 months) is definitely high needs. The hardest part is that others don't seem to think so!?!? Probably because when new people are around, he is incredibly observant and social and happy. When it's just us, he needs to constantly be on the go (seems like a common theme in this thread!), although he HATES being slung/worn. My arms really are wearing out...something's wrong with my wrist and I can barely lift a bottle of water with that hand, let alone a 19 pound chunker!

He seems to need constant stimulation, gets easily bored in the same environment or with the same toys/games, is incredibly happy and content whenever we are outside, and is going to be quite smart, I believe. Yesterday he watched me play with the cat toy (a long wand with a feather at the end) and as I walked away, he grabbed it and started trying to flick it back and forth for the cat to play with. When the kitty wouldn't play, he tapped him on the head with the toy as if to say-come on, play! And got frustrated when the kitty wouldn't play. His mind astounds me, truly.

He is a great sleeper but naps only about 1 hour total per day. I say he's a great sleeper because as long as I am there in bed with him at night, he will sleep from 6 pm-3 am with no problem unless he's teething. He probably nurses 3-4x during that time, but it could be more and I'm just not aware.

Darian hates, hates, hates the playpen. Being confined anywhere is not his cup of tea at all. Now that he can crawl he is into everything. RIght now he's peeking up at me from under the desk, tugging on my pants leg and saying something like babee. :LOL

Re: grocery store-I have to carry D and can only get what I can carry in a little hand basket in my other hand. I would love to do online ordering but they charge for delivery here, so we can't swing that. I just have to wait until dh or my mom can watch him before I go to the store.

gtg, he's upset. Nice to have met you all!

Rachel and Darian
post #14 of 50
Thread Starter 
yea for better nights sleep, saritabeth and dmick! Also, dmick, I wanted to suggest the "Happiest Baby on the Block" book, if you haven't already got it. Swaddling worked to get my babe to sleep and to stay asleep longer, until he got too big to do it (though it's crossed my mind to swaddle him now with a big afghan :LOL . And I'm totally with you on the grocery store trips being a big pain in the butt. Ds hangs in there for a couple of aisles, but then starts fussing and kicking his arms and legs. A couple of weeks ago he started screaming at the top of his lungs, but luckily he's forgotten about that and hasn't done it in awhile. I'm sure he'll remember soon.

RacheePoo, your ds could be a twin of mine. mine turn to go. Ds has had his 30 minute nap and needs to gogogo...
post #15 of 50
Momand more-Just wanted to offer encouragement and
I have an almost 3 year old who was a high needs babe and is a high intensity toddler. Hang in there. I am convinced that these babes make amazing kids, but tired moms.
post #16 of 50
Thread Starter 
thank you, Bearsmama. It helps to hear encouragement from other moms who've been there. I am very tired, but I'm working on it. I'm convinced that much of my problem lies with me and my attitude. I need to readjust my expectations and be more positive about my mothering experience. I need to teach myself as well as my son ways of calming the mind and spirit. If not, I'm on the road to burnout. Time to make some changes . . .
post #17 of 50
Great thread!! My 7 month old DD is very high needs. The thing is....she didnt start out that way. For the first 3 months of her life she was very easy going and everything. Then we hit month 4 and EVERYTHING changed. She stopped taking naps, stopped sleeping through the night (even though we co-sleep), refused to be put down, etc. Now we get in maybe one nap a day....maybe 30 minutes twice a day but that's it....not nearly enough for her. She now nurses like 4 times throughout the night. She loves to be carried, but has started refusing the sling, so now I have to just carry her in my arms. She is a very active baby, always moving, always squirming. She prefers to be playing with me over her toys any day. I'm not complaining....I love having my active DD who loves spending time with me over anything else. It's just a little tiring sometimes, lol! As some of the previous posters mentioned, there is barely any "me" time. I'm pretty much okay with that though. I try to always remind myself that they will only be babies for such a short while....there will come a day where they will not need us for much anymore. I love my little high needs kiddo!
post #18 of 50
Thread Starter 
Hi Christie,
Sounds like you've got a wonderful little dd. I love that my son is active, too. He's so fun and spunky. Whenever I get together with some friends who have babes about his age, I notice that the other little ones just lie there quietly and play with their toys. Not ds! I have to hold him and be his personal jungle gym and keep him constantly entertained. Dh and i think it's great (albeit exhausting at times!). He's a big ham and always attracts a lot of attention. And of course I stand there grinning and clucking like a proud mother hen :LOL .
post #19 of 50
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Originally Posted by momandmore2
For me, I find two things most difficult:
1. the fact that Benjamin needs to be constantly moving. I can never rest for even a minute; he likes being in the sling, but he gets really upset if I stop even for a minute to do or look at something. I feel schitzophrenic half the time, always hurrying and flitting from one thing to the next. It's wearing me out.

2. the sleep issue, which kind of goes with the first one. Benjamin doesn't need to sleep much (he's got a natural 30 minute sleep cycle), and he wakes up often if I'm not with him (and even when I am). So that leaves me very little "me" time, which I guess is the hardest thing of all. I need a village to raise him! :LOL We don't live near family or friends, so I don't have a support network or alternate caregiver. I've tried to tell myself to "just give in" to it, but it's a hard theory to put into practice on a daily basis.

These two things are what make me irritable and short-tempered sometimes. I don't like feeling this way. I'm trying to be a good AP mama to Benjamin, but I feel like I fall way short sometimes. It'll be nice to know that there are other moms out there facing similar challenges.
Can I just say ditto? :LOL Those are the exact things that make it hard for me, too! We have recently found some sleep successes with NCSS techniques, but now that more molars are coming in, all progress has been chucked and we're all sleepless.

As my DD becomes a toddler (she 13 mo) I notice she is even more dramatic than other toddlers her age. For and example, when she stumbles repeatedly, she gets extremely frustrated and will start screaming. We've tried to make a pointed effort not to make a "big deal" about "injuries." We cuddle and hug her of course, but we don't gasp and try not to look upset. But she is sooooo dramatic!

Or if I am doing something and cannot pick her up immeadiately when she wants it (like I'm cooking or washing dishes and have to wipe my hands off first) she flips out. Seriously, it sounds like someone is killing her and I always feel so bad...

My husband and I have really developed a sense of humor about it. We had jokes when she was a baby with colic, screaming 24/7... we used to "make up" reasons for her screaming when it got to be too much- like- "I want the sky to be pink!!!!! Why is it blue!!!!???? I like pink!!!!" etc... Now we just make little jokes about her winning an Oscar because she is so dramatic and good at turning her moods. And we privately call her "Samara" :LOL like the little girl in the Ring who wouldn't sleep :

Anyway, humor is the key for us! IT keeps us from feeling bad about it and reminds us to laugh when we've had enough.
post #20 of 50
Another tired high-needs-baby mama here!

My dd Tatum is 11 months old, and like so many of you we knew from the very beginning that she was gonna give us a run for our money. As a newborn she had two cries: really loud and make your ears bleed loud. She would go from being perfectly happy to all out screaming in about 2.5 seconds. Things have gotten easier as she has gotten older, but I think it's because we anticipate her needs so well, not because she has mellowed any.

Our biggest challenge is the (lack of) sleeping issue. We co-sleep (or co-wake, as I like to call it) and it is very draining. I actually dread night time anymore because I know what it will bring...

BUT- even with the "issues" we have I wouldn't trade her for the world. She is very bright, which seems to be a common thread here. Maybe because our babies are awake all the time they are learning more...dh likes to say that she can't sleep because she is curing cancer or solving world peace. When her needs are being met she truly is the happiest, most affectionate child I have ever met, and I know someday we will look back on this time and laugh. If the sleep deprivation hasn't killed us.

Krista
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