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1) Is it a natural consequence, when two children 4 and under are fighting over a (toy, book, spoon, etc.) to remove the item in question from both of them? Or is that perhaps a logical consequence?

2) Why are timeouts not GD?

3) How can I get 2yo dd to stop hitting everyone? She hits her brother the most. She gets a great reaction out of him, which is probably why she does it. He is not old enough to calmly say "no" and walk away for a while. When she hits now she goes to her non-stimulating bedroom for a minute.

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1) Is it a natural consequence, when two children 4 and under are fighting over a (toy, book, spoon, etc.) to remove the item in question from both of them? Or is that perhaps a logical consequence?

That would be a logical consequence. Natural consequences happen without parents stepping in to impose anything.

2) Why are timeouts not GD?

Well, that's tough, b/c in some ways they could be. It depends on the child and how you do it. If my dd is feeling overwhelmed with something and I offer her a break to get herself calmed down, and she does in fact calm down- that could be GD. If she refuses to pick up her toys and I tell her she must sit until she does it, and she sits and screams and cries and whines for 5 min., that's not GD. I think rather than ask, "Is this GD?" Asking, "Is this respectful of and truly helpful to my child?" (or is it a way for me to punish them?)

3) How can I get 2yo dd to stop hitting everyone? She hits her brother the most. She gets a great reaction out of him, which is probably why she does it. He is not old enough to calmly say "no" and walk away for a while. When she hits now she goes to her non-stimulating bedroom for a minute.

I would work very hard to figure out why she is hitting, my dd went through a stage where she was hitting ds, and the reason was basically that it worked to get her the toy she wanted (actually, she was biting his hand, but the same principal applies). She knew she could ask him for it and he might say no, but if she bit him, he would drop it. Smart kid. With that situation, I chose (thanks to advice here) to simply show my raw emotion on the issue. This is a case where I thought yelling was appropriate, b/c that was my true response, I was horrified that she was biting her brother (but she was like 4 and definitely knew better).
For a 2 yo, hitting is completely normal (though still not ok), often the child does not have the words to work things out, or the patience. This would be the kind of situation where I would think an imposed time-out could be appropriate. She has got to learn that hitting her brother is not at all acceptable. First you could teach ds to tell her, in no uncertain terms that that hurts! And that he doesn't want to play with someone who hits him. Perhaps helping out ds when it happens would be good. So- dd hits ds. You could intervene by comforting ds, and then finding him something fun to do on his own, you can sympathize with the fact that he is not going to want to be playing with her at that point. Once you have ds happy again, you could have a little talk with dd.
Well- that's just my thoughts, hopefully someone else will chime in with something better. I must say though, these things do pass, and in the end, I rarely know where it was some fabulous parenting on my part :LOL or just that the stage ended (the child outgrew it)-which is more likely. Hang in there mama!
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Thank you for answering. What you say sounds pretty right to me. We spent 9 months trying to get our son to stop hitting, and I think what worked is he got bored with it, or outgrew it. Parenting. Heh.
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yeah dd turns 1.5 soon but i think the "terrible" phase has already shown up here and there. so far i can always identify a reason, like right after we moved and she missed her grandmother. also that phase, which was the worst, lasted less than a week. but since she was so upset because of the move and getting adjusted to a totally new environment, i tended to indulge her a lot and i am afraid she might have gotten the message that screaming gets results. what is interesting though is that i told her at that tiem that she should not cry when she wants something but instead laugh while asking. and after the phase resolved itself, we did notice her laughing a lot while asking for things. :-)

anyway currently she is back to her sweet self but i feel so ill prepared for when somethign like that happens again.
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