"The following quotes, from this thread, kind of go that way in my mind:
Dietary cholesterol contributes to the strength of the intestinal wall and helps babies and children develop a healthy brain and nervous system.
i.e. - kids need cholesterol (found only in animal products)"
****Yes, everyone needs cholesterol. That's not an insult, that's a biological fact. Some people's bodies don't produce enough of it on their own, so they would have a pretty hard time on a vegan diet.
Eggs are nature's perfect food, providing excellent protein, the gamut of nutrients and important fatty acids that contribute to the health of the brain and nervous system. Americans had less heart disease when they ate more eggs. Egg substitutes cause rapid death in test animals.
i.e - feed your kids eggs (vegan substitutes cause "rapid death")"
****Egg substitute* does not equal *vegan substitute*. They're talking about egg white or powdered egg substitutes that are made for people looking to avoid cholesterol, not vegan substitutes for eggs in baked goods, which would include ground flax seeds mixed in water (hardly unhealthy).
30% calories as fat is too low for most people, leading to low blood sugar and fatigue. Traditional diets contained 40% to 80% of calories as healthy fats, mostly of animal origin.
i.e. - diets lacking in animal fats lead to low blood sugar & fatigue"
*****Yeah, for alot of people they probably would. That's not an insult.
Most of the groups promoting veganism (like PETA) are pushing a diet full of fake dairy and meat products (and Fritos ) in their pamphlets. So, there are alot of new vegans who are relying on these processed foods to maintain their lifestyle. I found it impossible to be vegan after deciding to go off of soy.
Sorry, you may not have meant it this way, but this comes across to me as, 'vegan diets are usually full of Fritos & crap food & it is basically impossible for most people to be vegan unless they eat a lot of soy.'
****Um, yeah I also said TWICE in that post that there are vegans out there who do fine without any soy. I never meant to imply that vegan diets are "full of Fritos", I said that some promoters of veganism are using fake meats/dairy and vegan junk foods to make veganism seem less restrictive. I think this could cause alot of new vegans, especially teens and college age kids, to rely on lots of junk food instead of whole foods.
The way of eating that my family and I follow is the way most societies have been sustained for thousands of year...we eat traditional natural organic whole foods...When you eat good, whole food, the way God intended food to be, new fangled man made things like soy food products kind of become a non-issue."
****Okay, I'm pretty sure this is the WP site quote, so I should mention that they are talking about ALL processed food, not just Boca Burgers. WP and Sally Fannon are NOT as anti-soy as you think. They are simply anti-processed food. If you read Nourishing Traditions you'd find recipes using tofu and miso and even a veggie lentil-pecan burger recipe.
I am finally over a vegan-diet-induced three year case of depression in pregnancy and postpartum.
i.e. - vegan diets are in some way deficient & cause depression, etc."
****So, it's not possible for some people to become unhealthy on a vegan diet? Or is it just your opinion that if they do, they shouldn't be allowed to discuss it here?
"These discussions of diets that have "sustained populations for generations" always smack of 'other diets are not proven to sustain people & my diet it superior' and even 'God wants us to eat meat,' which I find personally very offensive. Maybe that is b/c my six year old has actually had children in her classes tell her that God wants her to eat meat."
****Eww, if anyone said that here I'd throw a fit. BUT no one has said anything to that effect (IMO) so I think you are being a little overly sensitive. I think people should be able to discuss their experiences on different types of diets freely here. I also don't think that the ex-veg people here believe vegetarianism is unhealthy for everyone, just *them*.