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post #41 of 68
All of the above...but especially another vote for the total complete exhiliration...the "high as a kite" is no exaggeration...it is actually something to look forward to again. WOW! The endorphins were amazing...

I remember describing it like being inside a Salvador Dali painting (sureal not disturbing) but sure...the factor of it being better for mama and baby.
post #42 of 68
There are so many other ways to go through labor and alleviate pain from labor. Personally, I feel elated when the baby is born and that endorphin rush is like nothing else. You won't get that if you have an epidural. I use to compete in sports and I was on the rowing team in college and I felt a similar feeling after my births as I did after a race well rowed. Just exhilirating. My body is made to birth and going through the feelings and stages of birth really empower me and make me feel triumphant and I also feel it's a celebration of my womanhood. I gained a lot of confidence and learned so much about myself after conquering labor without fear and rolling with the feelings and sensations and responding to them as needed the way my body and baby asked me to.
post #43 of 68
Personally, I am more terrified of having someone stick a large needle up my spine and shoot drugs into me that create imobility, possible after-effect, and possible passage to baby than of the pain of labor. I like the idea of having some control over the birth process than to leave it totally in the hands of some doctors and nurses. I would feel helpless having the lower part of my body numb and limp.

I am not totally against epidurals. If they take the fear and pain out of childbirth for someone else, that is great! You have to go with what is comfortable and works for you. I honestly can't say that I would never get one either. My first birth was pretty easy, I guess if I was screaming in pain for hours I might loose my fear of needles really quick!
post #44 of 68
I've experienced birth both ways, so I feel confident in my personal decision to birth without medication. With epidural administration after the pitocin, I felt completely disengaged from the process. I honestly would have preferred pain, as horrendous as the Pit contractions were---anything would have been better than nothing at all.

When my son was born, I thought, Thank God that's over--I never want to do that again, ever. It was the worst day of my life. It was like he was completely alien to me. Someone might as well have run next door and grabbed someone else's newborn. I felt totally robbed of the experience. Not to mention the $25,000+ NICU stay due to iatrogenic complications from the birth......and the lethargic, drugged out, disinterested nurser.....to this day I regret ever, ever, ever stepping foot into that situation.

With my next two babies, unmedicated at home and in the water, I was ELATED they were born, and couldn't wait to do it again. The best days of my life. It was no cakewalk, but I discovered I was born to birth. My body worked and birth works when left alone, and I believe that we deserve the empowerment that is inherent in the normal (though not necessarily typical!) birth experience.

post #45 of 68
i prefer to have un medicated birth experinces.. but I have struggled with this a fair bit.. i have attended lots of births were the mama at first really wants an epidural.. at which my persaonl bias flys up.. but over time i have come to realize that while *i* prefer natural birth for numerous reasons mentioned and not.. not every mama can have a natural birth and enjoy.. that is not to say that not every woman is capable.. which i tend to think we are.. but at certain points in life not every woman has accessed this knowledge...we are not not taught that we are strong as a rule.. some are blessed enough to have been but this culture still does not really educate us that as women we are strong and ready individuals.. we are also not generally taught that birth is a sacred right of passage we are taught that it is scary, it is medicallized and that how are child is dressed or what nursery theme we choose means way more than how the baby comes out *as long as baby is healthy* who cares.. seems to be the sentiment of most in north america.....I wish women had this infinte ability to reach in side and know they are powerful and this one day will touch them in ways they could not have percieved of in the past....I know all women can.. but vauling a birth experince means different things to differnent people.. and being afraid or insecure or a genuine lack of faith in self.. not every woman faces that...all i have taken to doing is sharing why it is so meaningful to me to feel the birth of a child i anticpiated beyond anything else.. why I appreciate having my full senses about me, and allowing me to control the environment and not give up ownership or direction of my most sacred body parts.. and of course explain how epidurals for one raise risk factors on many levels...
but in the end i think holy.. thank Goddess i (or we) have found this primal mama power in us that allows us these miraculous journies, and lets us experince them as a whole.
post #46 of 68
I've had 4 unmedicated births that were very painful and awful-- my main reasons for not wanted meds was 1) faster recovery 2) fear of needles in my back 3) wanting freedom of movement (no IV) 4) wanting same day discharge from the hospital, 5) wanting a homebirth-- obviously I couldn't have an epidural at home.

I was never really convinced that an epidural would be really bad for the baby (that they wouldn't learn how to nurse or what have you)-- don't want to turn this into a huge debate, but I read a lot of research and basically felt it was inconclusive. I'm going to have an epidural this time around. Hopefully all will go well (praying praying praying!).
post #47 of 68
I just wanted to say that my labor was extremely, horribly painful and I didn't even feel the needle in my back. BTW they first inject a tiny needle with pain killer in it and then put the big one in. The only weird part was I felt a cold sensation down each side of my spine while the tested to make sure it was working on both sides. But honestly I didn't feel the needle at all.

Not to turn this into a pro epidural thread. I'm not. I'm just sharing my experience.

I also envy those women whose cx were like strong menstrual cramps. I've heard of them here, read the birth stories. I also think women who do it natural even though it hurts as much as my labor did are really brave and I admire your resolve.
post #48 of 68
Each of my births has been... I would say, excruciatingly painful. But each time I still chose to give birth the next time without access to drugs for pain. All of the reasons other posters mentioned factored into that, but I think the most compelling one for me was that it would have been really, really awful if my baby had had to endure an unnecessary septic workup because of me.

ETA: I don't mean to make it sound like I'm just too selfless to have an epidural. I would have been begging for one if I'd been in the hospital. That's just another good reason, to me, to give birth at home.
post #49 of 68
I've had a births with an epidural and without and I'd never use an epidural again!!

I had an adverse affect to one epidural and that was horrible. No one is going near my spinal cord again.

My natural, unmedicated birth was faster, easier, and just out-right amazing! Our bodies are amazing things and when they are allowed to do what they need to and respond how they need to, they are quite powerful and capable. I actually felt less discomfort with the unmedicated birth, birthed easier and faster. The most surprising part for me was how alert and energized I felt afterwards, it was like I got a rush of energy. I snuggled and nursed my baby right away and then was immediately up and about, took a shower, and ready to leave the hospital. I didn't have the fatigue I had with my other birth and just felt healthy, powerful, energized!

Natural birth was an incredible experience for me and I won't do it any other way since!
post #50 of 68
I tried both and would NOT have an epidural again!!

The first 2 were unmedicated and the 3rd was induced + epidural (long story).

What I hated about the third birth:

1. It was a hospital birth and nobody cared about my wishes
2. I could not feel anything below my waste and hated not knowing when to push. I felt half-dead
3. I had horrile back pains for weeks because of the epidural After the first two births I was feeling like myself and was up and about after 3 - 4 days.

On top of all that, epidurals are VERY risky for mama and baby. Just not worthy
post #51 of 68
All the non-epidural moms are RIGHT ON!!!!!! I had my baby naturally with no meds and it was awesome!!!!!!! Can't even imagine going down the "I can't feel anything" road :

I think you have to desire the birth experience for yourself... not just having a baby at the end. It worked for me. I wanted to feel the whole thing... and boy did I
post #52 of 68
I had four homebirths, unmedicated.

Frankly, being the oldest of nine children myself, with seven of the other eight being born at home, I already knew that birth itself was painful. Seeing my mother walking around, active in labor, howling, screaming through the birth itself, knowing that birth was excruciating was no big mystery to me.


I also knew that most of the hard "work" (which is what labor really is - the word itself means work) and horrible pain was over with the birth of the baby. The baby is very helpless and NEEDS its mama NOW! With most natural births, the mother is awake and aware and the new mother is full of endorphins and adrenaline to keep her alert and awake to deal with the new little one.

IN the hospital model, the worst of the pain is yet to come with the delivery of the baby. The mother is "alive", drugged, sutured, and the new born is cared for by "professionals" who know intuitively through their protocols what is best for the new mama and her baby, whether they like it or not.

I think every mother should get what she wants, not what the hospital, doctors, AMA, nurses, insurance companies, drug companies, and staff think she should have. If you want an epidural, get one.

There are plenty of trained staff in the hospital to stick it to you.
post #53 of 68
Originally Posted by IdentityCrisisMama
It would be interesting for you to talk to mothers who have had both.

that would be me.

i had an epi (and pit uke ) with tig. it only "took" on one half of my body, but it was enough to make it hard for me to push correctly. and i probably should mention that it took 6 needles in my back, and i HATE needles!!! (not that this reasonmmeans much to most people. i know tons of people who dont mind em a bit, and i know many have gotten an epi on the first try.) i wound up having major tears. in my ob's words "i had to throw some really deep stitches." (i believe her, i felt them on one side of my body). ds did not know how to latch on. i could not get up, (half of me was still pretty numb. there were other problems that i feel compounded his problem nursing, but this is what started it. he didnt learn to nurse till he was almost 6 months old.

roo's birth otoh, was awesome! it was still in a hospital, so i did have to fight for a couple of things to not be interfered with, but i got there at 10 cms dilated, dr got there, i had her in one push. i got up and showered right after she nursed. i felt great. if we are blessed with anymore. i want a homebirth with a midwife. the hard part will be the midwife, there arent any real close still.

hope i answered you questions, at least a little.
post #54 of 68
Originally Posted by captain optimism
I didn't like it. I couldn't feel anything below the waist, at all. I couldn't push properly. Urge to push? hah. It was totally terrible. I gave birth on my back, with other people pushing my inert legs into a squat.
in a way, i think i would have rather felt nothing. feeling it on half of my body, and not being able to move/ change positions for relief really sucked. the positioning probably had somethign to do with the tearing i had too. it really hurt when i wa sbeing stitched. (well on one half anyways...)

Originally Posted by captain optimism
My son... didn't nurse at birth and didn't latch on properly. It was a huge challenge to get his nursing going. One lactation consultant told me that she has seen that more in long labors with epidurals.
yup. i saw that personally, and then once i started working as a bf counselor, i saw it professionally at the majority of the postpartum visits i was doing.

Originally Posted by captain optimism
All of which is to say, I would try it without if I were you. Especially on a third birth, it's bound to be shorter and easier, the best time to do it.

yes, definately, if nothing else, you can try and then get an epidural if you really feel you need it. with enough preparation thouhg, you will probably not need one.
post #55 of 68
Originally Posted by Electra375
I hate needles more than I hate contractions.

are we related????

post #56 of 68
Originally Posted by tinyshoes
I'm suprised nobody has mentioned the possibility of a epidural being ineffective, or the pain of having to wait for anestheisa while in the hospital.
that would be me too, partially. my epi took great (on one half of my body), once it was finally in place.

Originally Posted by tinyshoes
If a woman is choosing epidural meds as her pain relief at the hospital, it can be quite an unpleasant and painful reality when the epidural isn't placed properly, or if the infusion of meds isn't numbing effectively. Then a woman is trapped in bed, tied down with the mandatory BP cuff, IV infusion, belly belts, and probable urinary catheter. How's she supposed to "change position" or use other pain coping techniques now? Can she still get narcotics via IV? Also, it is shocking how often it takes an annoyingly long time to summon the anesthesiologist to administer relief.
my anesthesiologist was there within 15 minutes of being paged, so at least she was quick getting there. now sitting still while i was having needles in the back. thats a whole nother story. took forever.

Originally Posted by tinyshoes
Pit contractions are more intense, painful, and longer-lasting than natural conractions--ask any L&D nurse, and s/he'll probably tell you what my L&D nurse told me when I was induced w/ #1: look at the tracing on the graph paper coming out of the monitor at bedside, and you'll see natural contractions are recorded with a gentle hill-like tracing, whereas a Pit contraction will be traced with a steeper slope, and a slower decay.
well, gee no one was nice enough at the hopital to explain it to me that way. i just knew that the pit made it hurt like nothing i had experienced before!

Originally Posted by tinyshoes
As I contemplated my second birth, when I decided on homebirth, I knew I could handle the pain of natural birth because I already endured the pain of a lame first epidural, a second mediocre epidural, and the shocking unpleasantness of Pit contractions all day long.
that's how i knew i could do it for roo. i had already felt everythign (even though it was only on one-half of my body)

Originally Posted by tinyshoes
I think there is a big difference between a hospital delivery, an empowered hospital birth, and a home birth.
i agree, i have had the first 2 and they were totally different. i can only imagine a homebirth as even better!
post #57 of 68
I am choosing to go med-free with my next child...after a disappointing experience with delivering #1, I want to experience child birth in it's truest form.
post #58 of 68
I chose to have no meds birth for a few reasons - I did not want to have a long drawn out pushing phase, which often happens with epi because you can't feel the 'urge' which leads to forceps etc. Also, i just didn't like the idea of having shot in my back, or not being able to move around. I worked hard to prepare myself for the birth, it went very quick for a first baby, i only had to push 4 or 5 times, pushing was very painful yet very short lived. Right after birth, i could walk, pee, nurse, unpack, eat etc. I had this incredible energy surge right after birth, i felt like i could do anything and already wanted to start another baby asap

The only bad part was the episiotomy and getting stiched up without meds - worse than everything else
post #59 of 68
Originally Posted by salado
I have had two babies and two epidurals. Why should I entertain the possibility of going natural with #3?
I had an epidural with #1 (I was hospitalized for 3 months prior to the birth and had every intervention you can imagine, except for a c-section).

I plan to go drug-free for the next because :

1. Labor really is a natural process, not a medical process, and I want to experience it
2. One medical intervention (an epidural is one example) tends to lead to other - pitocin, among other things. I don't want all of those interventions unless they'rea really NECESSYAR
3. It's better for the baby. The data is still out but it is known that epidurals greatly interfere with the baby's ability to latch on directly after birth. I've had enough problems breastfeeding; I don't want to set myself up for failure.
4. It's better for the baby, part 2 : I want my baby's entry into the world to be as peaceful and natural as possible... so I want to have a drug-free birth. As I mentioned, one intervention invites another (doctors and nurses can't help it, they just think in terms of medical interventions) and I want my baby to be born in a natural peaceful way, if possible.

Those are the main reasons. Heck, if these ladies here can do it, I can do it too!
post #60 of 68
I had an unmedicated birth and it was the most wonderful experience of my life. The pain is something I will never forget -- it was my body bringing my baby into the world. I had a very long labor. It was fantastic!
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