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[Too Busy]

Originally Posted by Sofiamomma

I'm not really sure exactly what might help, but your idea about her brain being "wired" a certain way has such a strong ring of truth to it. I'll bet you are intuiting exactly what the problem is. It sounds like what you are doing is working, so certainly to keep doing that may be all you need. I just wonder if there are natural and body work things you can try in order to rewire her brain. Things like craniosacral therapy, network spinal analysis (that one seems the most promising and probably quickest, not too expensive either, since she is young), infant massage, homeopathic remedies for fear and for sleep issues to name a few.

Thanks mama

We have an AWESOME chiro who is very knowledgable about natural rememdies... we have been taking her to him since she was dx with reflux, hoping that it might help, but unfortunately it hasn't really helped us in the areas we've needed it. He's told me that at this age, our options for any herbal therapies to help her sleep are pretty slim. He wouldn't feel comfortable giving us melatonin for her.

We have tried massage and she is just too darn wiggly for it! I remember reading a book about infant massage while I was pregnant and it talked about the author's experience in India with a mama and baby who sat down every day at a certain time for massage and how the baby, no matter how fussy her was would immediately calm when he saw his mom preparing for it. I so longed for this to be my DD :LOL She is not much into hugs or cuddles unless she initiates it.

I have never heard of craniosacral therapy or network spinal analysis... is that something my chiro would know about? Or is it more of a ped thing? We have not been to the ped for a looooong time because we are not vaxing and have had a really hard time finding someone who supports that. And I hate taking her in there if she isn't sick, KIWM?

Thank you!

[ShadowMom]

Originally Posted by Too Busy

We are 100% certain these wakings are not health-related. No reflux anymore and she does have all but her final molars. It has become very clear over the past two nights that she is rousing, but is not happy about rousing and is unable to fall back to sleep easily... It is like one moment she is asleep and the next she is rolling around and wide awake. As soon as she is aware of this, she starts to get really angy and sort of throws herself around the futon, rubbing her face into the mattress and then she climbs on top of us and cries into our faces... like she is asking us to help her figure it out...She isn't nursing back to sleep anymore either. So all of a sudden, in the middle of nursing she will pop of and roll around crying. If I try to latch her on again, she bites, which indicates that she doesn't want anymore. So we are doing Dr.JG's technique to help her find new ways to fall asleep.

I'm sorry to be obtuse, but I'm not sure how you can rule out her last two teeth coming in as being the problem. The behaviors you describe are EXACTLY how my DS acts when teething is starting to get really bad (i.e. a tooth is getting close).

Nightweaning might be a good idea even if that's what is going on, but I thought it was odd that you were able to rule it out. If there's a way to find out for sure whether a baby is teething, I would like to know, because I'm PRETTY sure my DS is still teething, but would love to know FOR SURE, if you know what I mean.

[Too Busy]

I can just tell. We have been teething since she was about 3 months old and we've gotten really good at being able to tell when she is teething. There are differences in how she acts when she wakes and the way she cries. She also always tuggs at her ears and rubs her face when she is teething. I know things can change, etc, etc, etc. But suffice to say that I have watched her and been with her for all of her wakings and she is just different now. Its not an in-pain fuss, it is an bona-fide angry cry.

During the teething episodes, she always needed to sleep upright, in the recliner on our chests. And she also gets a very runny nose when she is working on teeth. Neither of these things is true this time.

I didn't mean to sound like I have some secret about teething... I guess I am just confident in knowing that its not her teeth or anything else physical because I've been thru the ringer with her. :LOL

[Sofiamomma]

Too Busy, depending on where you are, NSA may be easy or a little tough to find. Your chiro will likely know about it. At this point only chiros can do it. It is a way of teaching the body to realign itself. It works amazingly well with little ones. The office that is closest to me does demonstrations and it is just the most incredible thing. It literally rewires the body, nerves, spinal cord, and therefore, muscles, bones, organs, etc. I'll bet if you Google it, you'd come up with someone near you.

I plan to start with myself and my younger dd in the next few weeks. We've been to a demonstration and had a consultation and a couple of treatments. She had a bit of a rough start herself and I've seen good results even in the two treatments she's had so far.

I know I may come off as some kind of enthusiastic convert, but I'm really not. In fact, it didn't come to mind until I'd read this thread a couple of times. It was your wiring comment that made me think of it.

[ShadowMom]

Originally Posted by Too Busy

I can just tell. We have been teething since she was about 3 months old and we've gotten really good at being able to tell when she is teething. There are differences in how she acts when she wakes and the way she cries. She also always tuggs at her ears and rubs her face when she is teething. I know things can change, etc, etc, etc. But suffice to say that I have watched her and been with her for all of her wakings and she is just different now. Its not an in-pain fuss, it is an bona-fide angry cry.

During the teething episodes, she always needed to sleep upright, in the recliner on our chests. And she also gets a very runny nose when she is working on teeth. Neither of these things is true this time.

I didn't mean to sound like I have some secret about teething... I guess I am just confident in knowing that its not her teeth or anything else physical because I've been thru the ringer with her. :LOL

Oh, I totally know what you mean. I tell DH that I can tell DS is in teething pain because of the way he acts when he's about to get a tooth versus just working on a tooth, etc. so I completely understand. I guess it's still possible, but I agree it sounds like you intuitively understand there's something else going on.

Hope the nightweaning continues to work for you! How was last night, btw?

[Too Busy]

Pretty well! She did 2 hours stretches, which is the first time in a LOOOOONG time. She still had a rough patch in the middle of the night when she just didn't want my DH, but it didn't last as long as it has in the past three nights. Then she woke up at 4 and I tried to get her back to sleep, but she kept waking up! Everytime I would get her settled she pop up and start babbling and kissing me. Its hard to be mad when they do that :LOL

But I had to pee and my DH took her and she went right down for him. I am seeing small progress each night. Its basically like getting used to a new routine and she is slowly learning that she can go back to sleep and getting less frustrated. I think its going to take 10-14 days total until we're transitioned completely. Or maybe a little longer... I don't want to rush her.