Metal fillings replaced while breastfeeding? - Page 6

[JaneS]

Terri,
Cutler posts on several Yahoo lists, you can certainly try asking!
He also is available for personal consults and works with several MDs/NDs for chelation help.

[jennipurr]

Thanks Jane. It's so frustrating that more isn't known about this. I've read everything I can get my hands on, but so much is inconsistent. However, it was pretty clear in everything I've read that not enough's known for it to be tailored, but I thought I'd check with you and see if I might have missed something.

Thanks,
Jennifer

[PingPong'sMom]

Okay, I'm kinda freaked out and know that I have less to be freaked out about but W O W, I am. So perhaps I need a little, "Yes, this is cause for freaking out," and a bit of, "But you're ahead of the game, appreciate it."

I have been trying to get preggo since August (went off the bcpatch then). Started temping, etc. in Jan, still wasn't ovulating in March. Decided my body needed some extra help/nourishing so I saw a NP. My ss7 is on the autistic spectrum, was very well vax'ed, is constantly on antibiotics, eats crappy food. I have a mouthful (I mean 12 good sized holes) of silver fillings, new and old.

My NP said we should avoid getting pregnant while I do a mini-detox: castor oil packs on the abdomen, extra Omega-3s, acidophilus, herbs for my hyperthyroid, other herbs to balance my ovaries, the Perfect Food to increase blood volume and consult with a holistic dentist (she recommended Groton Dental Wellness) to discuss getting the silver/mercury fillings removed, safely. But if I'm correct, instead of waiting for a month after finishing the filling removal, they recommend 12-18 months before getting pregnant.

Holy Cr*p!

That's a long time. Intellectually, all the reasons out there make sense, but I was hoping to have our first kids sooner than later. Augh. I am being a selfish, self-centered brat...

I have my first dental appt in Groton in early May. I guess I start with that... I am not currently preggo, am not bfing but I did poas and discovered I started ovulating this month.

Anyone have any thoughts... I know I'm aiming for the prevention end of things... just exhausted from thinking of all of it....

Thanks,

C

[Annikate]

Hi PingPong'sMom,
It sounds like you're doing the right thing. You're educating yourself and finding the right people to help. Just make sure you get a dentist that follows proper removal protocol. Find one here.

It makes me so angry that mine didn't even MENTION it! And to make matters worse, she KNEW I was b'feeding.

Be patient. You're doing the best thing for both yourself and your future dcs!

[finchstacy]

I'm getting ready to schedule the removal of my fillings, 6 in all. I'm having them done all at one time and I use a holistic dentist who follows all of the precautions.

But I want to get pregnant very soon. Last summer I had one ovary and fallopian tube removed because of a borderline tumor. Everything was clear at my 6 month follow-up and sonogram, but I keep having dreams that right when we decide to TTC, another tumor is found on the remaining ovary. I have been worried about another tumor because less than one year prior to the surgery, I had several cysts removed from that ovary, and lost about 5 pounds! Having a clean sonogram has helped me be more positive, but the constant dreams are scaring me.

My dentist indicated that some people detox from the mercury removal, some don't. I figured I would take a wait and see approach. If I felt miserable, I would wait to conceive. Now after reading this thread I am scared. I don't have a lot of time to wait to conceive, but I have one autistic, one dyslexic, and another child who was delayed, but with no obvious concerns.

I just don't know what to do now, and I'm confused about the testing to check to see if I have high levels of mercury.

Stacy

[JaneS]

This is a hard decision Stacy

Your body WILL detox itself after removal according to studies, I do not know why your dentist thinks some people don't. But it depends on how much your body has stored. This is dependent on your nutrition and general way your body has dealt with toxins over the years.

Cutler's hair elements test counting rules are the only test I think is accurate after my reading but that's just me.

[moneca]

Pingpongsmom-
I'm actually doing Cutler's chelation protocol since having my 7 fillings out. I would love to get pregnant, but won't chance it until I'm done chelating. For me it wasn't an option. Dd has severe gut issues that I believe are partly due to my mercury toxicity and the vax she received through 6 months. I would say prevent at all costs, but whether you store or get rid of the mercury has a lot to do with it. I store the blessed crap: !

[mjennell]

Where do I start?

Hi all,

I am breastfeeding my DS who is 21-months. I recently saw a biological dentist and he told me I need 2 of my 5 mercury fillings replaced. One has decay and the other is touching my gum and has left a tattoo. He says the tattoo means the mercury is leaching into my gum tissue.

My son does not have any obvious delays or difficulties. My DH and I were a little concerned that he doesn't verbalize a whole lot and doesn't use words that he once has. He does though use a lot of the same daily words and understands plenty and my DH speaks portuguese with him. I am sending in his hair this week for analysis.

What is worse the tattoo or removal with proper protocol? DS also has some cavities and we have nearly stopped the decay. I wanted to bf through the process of getting them treated in about 3 months. We were going to ttc but have put it off for now. Can chelation be done while bf? Any supplements or vitamins he should be getting?

Physically, I am a bit fatigued and have some short memory problems. I have had these fillings for 25 years. I had an mmr vax in college. I also have had a swollen lymphnode or salivery gland on the same side as the 2 fillings since before I was pregnant (about 3 yrs). Two specialist said not to worry.

Any thoughts or advice? I hate this because ds has had to wear a docband, was anemic, has ecc and now might have mercury poisioning!

Melanie

[Annikate]

Originally Posted by mjennell

Hi all,

I am breastfeeding my DS who is 21-months. I recently saw a biological dentist and he told me I need 2 of my 5 mercury fillings replaced. One has decay and the other is touching my gum and has left a tattoo. He says the tattoo means the mercury is leaching into my gum tissue.

My son does not have any obvious delays or difficulties. My DH and I were a little concerned that he doesn't verbalize a whole lot and doesn't use words that he once has. He does though use a lot of the same daily words and understands plenty and my DH speaks portuguese with him. I am sending in his hair this week for analysis.

What is worse the tattoo or removal with proper protocol? DS also has some cavities and we have nearly stopped the decay. I wanted to bf through the process of getting them treated in about 3 months. We were going to ttc but have put it off for now. Can chelation be done while bf? Any supplements or vitamins he should be getting?

Physically, I am a bit fatigued and have some short memory problems. I have had these fillings for 25 years. I had an mmr vax in college. I also have had a swollen lymphnode or salivery gland on the same side as the 2 fillings since before I was pregnant (about 3 yrs). Two specialist said not to worry.

Any thoughts or advice? I hate this because ds has had to wear a docband, was anemic, has ecc and now might have mercury poisioning!

Melanie

Sorry you're going through this! I don't think chelation (using DMSA and/or ALA) is safe while breastfeeding. How old is your ds?

Here is a link to a thread about a chelator that is safe to use with metal fillings AND while breastfeeding. I am using it now and so is dd. I can attest to the fact that it DOES work. It does not cross the blood-brain barrier though.
http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=503645[

Anyway, it is scary to be in your position, I know! Personally, I would NOT let them touch the fillings (even with proper protocol) while breastfeeding. I'm not suggesting you wean either - - I'm just saying I wouldn't put ds at any more risk.

[kamesennin]

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[Annikate]

Originally Posted by pbandj

Hello, adding myself to this thread. I've had bad teeth all my life and I just changed dentists so I can get some work done. (I didn't like my old one, so I would never call to make appts) I have a bfing 19 mo old but I am going to get my amalgams replaced. I have a tooth that is decaying under a filling, so I need a crown--lovely. The dentist said if I wait any longer I will need a root canal. Almost every tooth in my mouth has something wrong with it--either a filling or a cavity, and the dentist looked sort of appalled at the state of my mouth, and especially horrified (or so I thought) at the sight of my deteriorating amalgams. He had a fancy camera that took photos so I could see them on the tv, and most of my fillings were cracked. I figure at this rate I'll never be able to get pregnant again if I don't get this taken care of, so I am just going to go ahead and get the work done. I plan to cut back on nursing sessions--dd only really needs it in the morning. I know it is bad that I am nursing and have to get this done, but I would rather do it now than while pregnant. Plus, she is already 19 mo. and I don't think I can wait any longer to get this work done.
Anyway, I'll let you know how it goes.
Liane

Mama, it will be *extremely* dangerous - - even if you did find a dentist who followed proper protocol - - to have this done while b'feeding. I'd suggest you either wean her beforehand or wait. (I believe in clw btw but this is just too risky to take chances.)

I don't even have my amalgams touched when I get a cleaning. It very very risky for both of you to stir up all that mercury.

If you haven't already, read the info. here.http://www.iaomt.org/

[my3peanuts]

[Kateana]

I feel ill reading about all of this... I just saw a mercury-free dentist today, and in addition to needing work on all but one tooth, I need THREE root canals! Of course, that news sent me running to the computer to research alternatives! And here I am... Thank you all for this thread. I am hoping especially to hear from pbandj, as your story sounds so close to mine!!

[Annikate]

Originally Posted by Kateana

I feel ill reading about all of this... I just saw a mercury-free dentist today, and in addition to needing work on all but one tooth, I need THREE root canals! Of course, that news sent me running to the computer to research alternatives! And here I am... Thank you all for this thread. I am hoping especially to hear from pbandj, as your story sounds so close to mine!!

Please click on the link in my siggy and read under Dental Amalgams.

[motocita]

Originally Posted by Annikate

Mama, it will be *extremely* dangerous - - even if you did find a dentist who followed proper protocol - - to have this done while b'feeding. I'd suggest you either wean her beforehand or wait. (I believe in clw btw but this is just too risky to take chances.)

I don't even have my amalgams touched when I get a cleaning. It very very risky for both of you to stir up all that mercury.
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annikate, the video linked above is absolutely horrifying to me - to see that vapor coming off the amalgam and to think that is happening every time i chew, brush my teeth, or grind my teeth! have you found some evidence that taking them out (even while breastfeeding) is more dangerous than the stream of mercury that is being supplied to my body (and then to my daughter's) every day? would you please share this information? i'm trying to make a decision about this.

thanks!

[Annikate]

Originally Posted by motocita

annikate, the video linked above is absolutely horrifying to me - to see that vapor coming off the amalgam and to think that is happening every time i chew, brush my teeth, or grind my teeth! have you found some evidence that taking them out (even while breastfeeding) is more dangerous than the stream of mercury that is being supplied to my body (and then to my daughter's) every day? would you please share this information? i'm trying to make a decision about this.

thanks!

I don't know of any research that specifically designed to find out which is worse: removal during b'feeding or leaving them alone. My gut feeling is that it's much more dangerous to disturb them during b'feeding. My dentist agrees. He won't remove mine while I'm b'feeding. I can tell you though, that as soon as dd is weaned I'm getting these things out once and for all.

[Pookietooth]

I saw a holistic dentist who said it was safe to remove amalgam fillings while bfing if the proper protocols were taken, so I had most of them out. Then I heard even that was bad, so I stopped. DS really didn't seem to get any worse -- I had a mercury filling removed when he was six months old, while he sat right there, no protocols. I also lost one while I was pg, which I think I swallowed. Ugh! Anyway, I have also heard that after about 20 years, most of the mercury is gone from most fillings anyway.

[Annikate]

Originally Posted by Pookietooth

I saw a holistic dentist who said it was safe to remove amalgam fillings while bfing if the proper protocols were taken, so I had most of them out. Then I heard even that was bad, so I stopped. DS really didn't seem to get any worse -- I had a mercury filling removed when he was six months old, while he sat right there, no protocols. I also lost one while I was pg, which I think I swallowed. Ugh! Anyway, I have also heard that after about 20 years, most of the mercury is gone from most fillings anyway.

Pookietooth, I have to respectfully disagree with most of this. Is your dentist a member of iaomt?

[JaneS]

Originally Posted by Pookietooth

Anyway, I have also heard that after about 20 years, most of the mercury is gone from most fillings anyway.

Can't be so... 50% by weight of amalgam is mercury.

That "Smoking Tooth" on the video at IAOMT website is 25 years old.

[Richie'sMama]

Thanks for all of this fascinating reading. I too want to get my fillings removed, but am BFing, so I will wait. The mercury free dentist said she could do it while bfing, but I don't trust that, so... she'll be there in three or so years when he's weaned.

In the meantime, I have an dental appt. tomorrow and I need to tell my conventional dentist

1. No flouride
2. If I need a filling (and I think I have another cavity) that it has to be a composite filling.

Anything else I should demand?

The mercury free dentist won't treat me until all my amalgams are removed. Sigh.

Please respond ASAP if you have any advice for my appt.

Thanks.

- paula