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MMR at 12 and 18 months??

post #1 of 13
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Hi, I have never posted on this forum before but I am hoping someone can help me out.

As a bit of background my DD is vaccinated with the standard vaccines at 2/4/6 months, also had the MMR at 15 months. I was advised she should not have the booster MMR until 6 years old.

My son has had the standard vaccines at 2/4/6. He has not had the MMR yet as he is only 9 months old.

Neither of my children have had (nor will they) the chicken pox, or the mengugate (sp?) vaccine.

I was just doing a bit of research and it is looking like the MMR is now being given at 12 months AND at 18 months due to recent outbreaks?? (I am in Canada) I am absolutely sick over this. I do not like vaccines. I especially do not like the MMR. I have vaccinated my kids (and then held my breathe hoping they would be ok) I am scared not to vaccinate but I am scared to if that makes any sense. With my son I was planning on advising the dr. that we would be holding off on the MMR until 18 months...now I am hearing that they will want him vaccinated at 12 and 18 months...has anyone heard of this being done?? In any event he will not be getting that horrible vaccine twice in 6 months...even if I am a complete chicken about not getting vaccines that is not going to happen!

So I guess my bottom line question is has anyone heard of the MMR being given at 12 and 18 months? I am absolutely appalled over this if this in fact what the medical community has now decided is best.
post #2 of 13
nak
i saw this, and that they added both prevnar and the other meng one to the 2/4/6 schedule- 21 viruses injected before 6 months of age....7 per visit :Puke

we r but it saddens me what is going on.....


and they've added the pertussis vax for teenagers to get
post #3 of 13
btw i'm in ontario too
post #4 of 13
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Originally Posted by apcanadianmamma
So I guess my bottom line question is has anyone heard of the MMR being given at 12 and 18 months? I am absolutely appalled over this if this in fact what the medical community has now decided is best.
They will decide to give more and more vaccines sooner and sooner. Preferable at birth. This way no one will ever know the full potential of their kids. No one will ever know whether their child is vaccine damaged or not.

I do not doubt anything any more. But what I find interesting is that people actually go by that advice for no reason. WHY???

Ok, first things first. Hold off on all vaccines. You don't have to do any vaccines, especially not in Canada unless you feel they are in the best interest of your child.

There are many children who are not vaccinated at all. And they are perfectly healthy. As a matter of fact, they seem to be healthier than the vaccinated children. So just relax a bit. Nothing will happen to your child because of putting vaccines off.

And then start to research. Read everything you can on this board, in the archives, and on the web. If you have time, read a few books. But a lot of what is in the books you will find copies in different web sites. So getting information from web sites is just like reading someone's book.

Good sites to start with are www.909shot.com
www.thinktwice.com

And stay with us. Read and ask questions, Read and ask questions.... At first it will be very overwhelming, but within a months or so you will be surprised how much more informed you will be and how much more confidence you'll have in your decision.

Good luck!
post #5 of 13
I wanted to add, if you do decide to vax, the 18 month is a booster- you could choose it or the one at 4-6 yrs. For 90% of those vaxed- they don't need the booster, it's for the 5% that aren't immune- the other 5% won't be immune.

Research it thoroughly first.......

Have titres checked instead of boosters
post #6 of 13
I am in ontario as well.

Sorry I haven't heard about them doing shots so close together. I just stay away from the whole thing!

Just wanted to say hi. I really wish I could find someone close to me with the same values..I am in northern ontario.
post #7 of 13
I am in Alberta. What is this "outbreak". Specifically which component of the MMR is it? How many cases are they considering an outbreak? I have not heard of anything, there hasn't been any info like this out here so it isn't a country wide situation. If you are concerned about the specific disease in the MMR that is having more than usual cases, you could vax for just that one and not the entire MMR.
post #8 of 13
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Originally Posted by CarrieMF
I am in Alberta. What is this "outbreak". Specifically which component of the MMR is it? How many cases are they considering an outbreak? I have not heard of anything, there hasn't been any info like this out here so it isn't a country wide situation. If you are concerned about the specific disease in the MMR that is having more than usual cases, you could vax for just that one and not the entire MMR.
the outbreak part I heard about on another message board so I have no specific info. It was said that it was due to measles outbreaks? I wasn't overly concerned about an outbreak...I was more freaking out that they wanted to do the MMRs so close together. Sorry I don't have more info - it could even just be a dr saying that to get a parent to shut up (ie...well you had better get this second shot now because there are measles outbreaks in our area)
post #9 of 13
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Originally Posted by laprettygurl
I am in ontario as well.

Sorry I haven't heard about them doing shots so close together. I just stay away from the whole thing!

Just wanted to say hi. I really wish I could find someone close to me with the same values..I am in northern ontario.
Hi

I am in Southern Ontario so not really close. I imagine finding like minded people in n ontario would be a little hard...I know how hard it is where I am!
post #10 of 13
Thread Starter 
Also,

I just wanted to thank everyone who responded to my post. The one poster who talked about wanting babies to get all vaccines close to birth so that you can't blame the vaccines for any trouble really hit home for me.

I can say that DS will not be getting the MMR at 12 months...he never was going to be anyways. I was leaning between 15-18 months and then the booster at 6 years old. Now though I'm really not sure what I am going to do. I've discussed it with my (mainstream) DH who doesn't believe he needs it until he goes to school - so we may wait until then (although if we wait until then I am worried that they will try to give both MMR shots only a month apart...which I don't want either)

I would like to say that I will forgo vaccines all together because they do scare me. My two concerns though are 1) it is getting harder and harder for children to get these childhood diseases - I don't want to be in a situation where my son gets mumps after puberty. I'm also worried about either of my DC getting any childhood illnesses in adulthood since I understand they can be quite serious then. My second reasoning may sound a bit silly but you have to understand - my first born died in labour for no apparent reason - I live each day scared that one of my living DC will be taken from me. What if they do get one of these diseases and they are one of the unlucky ones who does suffer serious side effects?

I know I am rambling, this is just an issue that I am really struggling with. I do know for now we are holding off on the MMR for DS until 18 months at least...and we don't have to deal with DD at all right now since she isn't due to return to the dr until 4-6. I'm just not sure what to do. I will continue to frequent this forum though in an attempt to learn more.

Thanks for the replies.
post #11 of 13
I did a quick search last night online and couldn't find anything about any outbreak in Canada or Ontario. The last thing they had on a outbreak was in 1999 and it was JIC there was an outbreak, there actually wasn't one. If you do decide to not give any of them, you will need to sign an exemption form if your child goes to public/private school.
post #12 of 13
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Originally Posted by apcanadianmamma
I would like to say that I will forgo vaccines all together because they do scare me. My two concerns though are 1) it is getting harder and harder for children to get these childhood diseases -
In a way yes, but children can get CP from a vaccinated child.

Besides, what you have to remember is that the vaccine wears off. So teenagers are now our carriers of the childhood diseases. And they are just as contagious from teens as from small kids.

I do believe there is enough around. There are many people who do not vaccinate. Christ. Scientists, Jehovah Whiteness at el.

I think diseases are around anywhere where there are many people. Like shopping malls, air ports, sports stadiums.

We can hardly escape childhood diseases if we are not vaccinated. Although a child may not show symptoms.

Not too long ago a poster wrote that her unvaccinated 4 yr. old had his titers measured and his immunity was exactly the same as any other vaccinated 4 yr. old. Isn't that interesting?

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I don't want to be in a situation where my son gets mumps after puberty.
Then you do think they are still around. Why would they contract them as teens and not as a young child if they are not vaccinated?

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What if they do get one of these diseases and they are one of the unlucky ones who does suffer serious side effects?
The chances of side effects from vaccines are much greater than from the childhood diseases in an otherwise healthy child.

Don't forget our body is finely tuned to rid the body of the viruses from childhood diseases. But our body has no defense whatsoever against the poisons and heavy metals in vaccines.
post #13 of 13
gitti,
actually jehovah witnesses here in alberta do vaccinate. my kids piano teacher is a jehovah and i asked her if they vaccinate and she said jehovah's do. i asked what about the vaccines that are made from aborted fetal tissue and she said she'd never heard of that!

also, i believe there was a so called outbreak of measles in alberta, don't remember the year, but it was something ridiculously silly like 12 or 16 cases, and the media was blowing it waaaay out of proportion.
mandi
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