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post #1 of 15
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15 month old Jake goes to my parents house a lot, my grandmother also lives with them.

How do I get them to quit telling him no, and get them off thier butts and redirecting him to an activity he can do?

We were over there today and I swear thats the only word he heard out of my grandmothers mouth all day. She can't walk so all she does is sit in her chair and tell him no no. He of course ignores her and keeps on doing whatever it is he is doing. My parents are the same way... he wants to push the buttons on the TV and they sit there and tell him no no but don't get up and try to redirect him to buttons he can push or even remove him from the situation they just say no and expect him to understand and quit doing it.

I've tried explaing to them that NO means nothing to him and he is just going to keep on doing what he is doing and my Mom says well if he doesn't stop on the first or second No I'll just slap his hand... then he will learn what No means.

I went on a rampage about how they are to never under any circumstances slap, spank, or hit my child. They are to respect him just as they expect him to respect them. My Dad got all flippy and said that I was out of line and I wasn't respecting them and they can choose how they want to handel dicipline for Jake in thier house when they are in charge of taking care of him, and that he will never learn anything if we go around respecting him and try to rationalize with a 15 month old. I told him that the reason I chose AP and GD is because as a child I was never respected or rationalized with and got hit first and sometimes (rarely got an explaination why).

How do I teach them the GD way and get them to understand NO means nothing and hitting never solved anything. They will not read a book on the subject.
post #2 of 15
It's clear that your parents, especially your father doesn't respect your role as parent. I have similar issues with my parents, but they know that hitting/slapping is NOT allowed. My dad tends to be a bit grouchy and his tone can be a little hurtful. We usually cut the visit short, which usually gives dad the hint. I know it's hard because they're your parents and they're not getting any younger, etc...but stick to your beliefs and let your dad know that your son being in his home does not validate him imposing his parenting beliefs, as he is not the parent to Jake. I had to do the same thing. Guess I still am as my mom got bent out of shape when I declined artificially flavored/colored, sugar laced popsicles for my son who is sick. Maybe bring a stress/mess free craft to do next time you visit and get everyone involved?
Good luck.
post #3 of 15
First off they shouldn't be allowed to be sole care providors for him if they are going to hit. Then I'd model the behavior I want.
post #4 of 15
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went on a rampage about how they are to never under any circumstances slap, spank, or hit my child. They are to respect him just as they expect him to respect them. My Dad got all flippy and said that I was out of line and I wasn't respecting them and they can choose how they want to handel dicipline for Jake in thier house when they are in charge of taking care of him, and that he will never learn anything if we go around respecting him and try to rationalize with a 15 month old. I told him that the reason I chose AP and GD is because as a child I was never respected or rationalized with and got hit first and sometimes (rarely got an explaination why).
this part REALLY hit home with me...especially the rampage part, and everything else---and the kicker is, we are still pregnant with our first child!!
She is not even here yet and the battles have already begun! I guess my school of thought is that I want to get people used to the idea of how we are raising our DD so that there won't be an "we didn't knows" or any suprises, or arguements in front of her etc when she does get here....
My mom had the same "if she is in my house, my rules apply" kind of attitude, and that is fine in terms of her possesions etc, but as far as OUR child, NO WAY ARE YOU TOUCHING HER...and I told them under NO circumstances would we be returning if they felt it necessary to hit, spank, slap her hand etc...
I know I will probably have an issue with the "no, no" thing too, as my parents are pretty um, shall I say "old school" on some things and set in their ways and I don't expect them to completely change or whatever---so all my daughter will learn of her grandparents and discipline is that she can't do anything at their house and it isn't a fun place and that is very very sad---

Honestly though, they are my parents and I love them and try to respect them etc, but when it comes to our daughter, they know I will not hesitate removing her (and us) from their lives if they disrespected me and hubby and our daughter in that manner...you have to be DEAD serious and they have to know it....
didn't mean to hijack your thread at all, just wanted to share that our experiences are very similar!!!

Good luck with everything, just know you are not alone, stand firm and don't ever feel guilty for protecting your child-- we are facing this and our daughter isn't even born yet!!!
post #5 of 15
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Originally Posted by jazzpurr88
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I went on a rampage about how they are to never under any circumstances slap, spank, or hit my child. They are to respect him just as they expect him to respect them. My Dad got all flippy and said that I was out of line and I wasn't respecting them and they can choose how they want to handel dicipline for Jake in thier house when they are in charge of taking care of him, and that he will never learn anything if we go around respecting him and try to rationalize with a 15 month old.....
How do I teach them the GD way and get them to understand NO means nothing and hitting never solved anything. They will not read a book on the subject.
The next time your parents say anything about you bringing DS to visit them, say with a regretful yet sincere tone, "I'm so sorry, but Jake can't visit unless I stay too. Since we disagree so on how Jake should be disciplined and taught, I don't want to put that responsibility on you. Next week (or whenever), when I'm able to stay too, I'll bring Jake and we'll all visit together. Oh, did you hear on the news about the Taster's Choice guy being awarded millions of dollars for the use of his image all these years?".

That way, you dno't have to worry about how your son is treated, your parents get the message that you're a calm, rational adult who can handle yourself, AND when you take Jake to visit, you can model the behavior you feel is appropriate. During your visit, if they get snippy, just say calmly and sincerely, "I'm afraid we have to run. Give me a call (whenever) and we'll get together! Love you!".

Sometimes, trying to get people to educate themselves (either with books, or with giving them explanations of why we're doing things the way we do)makes it seem like you are...I don't know, maybe unsure of yourself (not YOU, but general "you"). That's why I like the modelling approach.

Good luck!
Lisa
post #6 of 15
Do not let them babysit. I had to "revoke" my MIL's babysitting job when I found out she did not feel it was necessary to use the car seat properly. It was a fight. It wasn't pleasant but my DD comes first. Good luck!
post #7 of 15
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Originally Posted by Arduinna
First off they shouldn't be allowed to be sole care providors for him if they are going to hit. Then I'd model the behavior I want.
How do you do this Arduinna?? You just said everything I was going to say, but I would have written at LEAST a paragraph and a half. Your brevity is an art form.

This is exactly what I was going to say, but longer. However, sometimes modelling has to be explained also. My mother watches my girls while I'm at work and she's a pretty AP caregiver. But every once in a while she'll do something that is not ok with me and I'll try to model my behavior so she sees how I handle the situation. Sometimes she doesn't get it, though, and I have to explain what I'm doing and why I'm doing it. Good luck. I wouldn't let them take care of my child, not if they threaten physical violence.
post #8 of 15
Each "no" costs a dollar.

Fine them.

Put the money in your child's savings account.

a
post #9 of 15
mamadawg :LOL oh and ITA with you about saying thing while modeling. In my case, I flat out told my parents when they treated dd in a way I didn't approve of. I also modeled and I revoked childcare/contact when needed. They got it!

Alexander, interesting idea! doubt they'd pay up though.
post #10 of 15
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Originally Posted by jazzpurr88
My Dad got all flippy and said that I was out of line and I wasn't respecting them and they can choose how they want to handel dicipline for Jake in thier house when they are in charge of taking care of him, and that he will never learn anything if we go around respecting him and try to rationalize with a 15 month old.
WOW!

I would have just said "no problem, you can see him in our home then- and he won't be left in your care until you learn to respect my role as his parent"

Obviously it is to late for that now, so I just wouldn't bring him over there- and when they ask I would just be honest. "If you want you can come over and see him, but as long as you feel you can decide his discipline in your home he won't be coming to your home. You are more than welcome to visit him here where I can maintain control of his parenting."

We are very lucky in that both DH and I went awhile without much contact with our folks. Our parents are on very slippery ice with us, and they would never step into our space. There are very clear lines drawn between them and us. I think we have an extreme situation... but I think that many parents need lines drawn in a less severe manner. Something that says "NO! I am an adult, and *I* am the parent of this child. You WILL listen to me on this matter" Sometimes parents seem to have a hard time letting go of that control over you. Makes me take notes for when my kids are grown, you know?
post #11 of 15
Your question of saying "no, no" I would just tell them simply "I don't want Jake hearing "no" constantly. I plan on raising him in a primarily "yes" environment... it is up to you to make this space a yes environment if you want Jake to visit often."
post #12 of 15
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Originally Posted by Arduinna

Alexander, interesting idea! doubt they'd pay up though.
Huh! I get advanced down payments!

a
post #13 of 15
I understand where you are coming from...sounds like a lot of us have similar situations!
I would make sure to be 'on top' of every action he does in their house and model the 'redirecting' and 'positive words' etc...
Your parents will probably see how much more positive this is AND after a while they may start doing it too...
But you can't afford to leave him there alone...and arguing with your folks isn't going to change anything...
Let them know that you love them and that your son adores them, and you don't want to hurt that relationship...but you won't have them behaving that way...etc
Oh...by the way...the modeling thing really works well with husbands too! heehee

Bobbi
post #14 of 15
I very much agree with what lisahas2cats said.

Under no cirumstances would I let my parents babysit my son if they felt they could treat him like you described. No way.

I am so sorry you have to go thru this.
post #15 of 15
Im really looking for a eating popcorn smilie

Im glad im not the only one

SO far kai is 15 months and hasnt been watched by family members yet

I like the line some people i know have said to me when i try to say how we choose to raise Kai GD etc 'why do i need to read a book or learn how you parent" I KNOW how to parent NATURALLY I dont need a manual " IF I HEAR THAT LINE ONE MORE TIME


LOL and that is why i wil raise kai with respect and not the Just because i said so end of story parenting tactic with HE Will learn not to touch NO NO NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ARGH

Know whats even better i think some that know me personally snooped and found i post here so now they read what i write actually its pretty funny!!!


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