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post #21 of 28
I would have written the "Our 8 year old son can't read" essay, if it wasn't done already, minus the required math-at-the-table part. YoungSon is 8.5, and really doesn't read at all. My other 2 taught themselves to read early. I put reading in the catagory of walking and talking, which by the way are much more complex skills. Babies look around, see others walking, and eventually, in their own time, try to do it themselves. We might purchase a walker, or hold their hand when they first try to take steps. But it really doesn't matter - they will figure it out. Same with speech. For some it comes early, some later, but really the only teaching is being around people who speak. As parents, we may correct grammar or suggest a different word, but generally kids figure out how to communicate on their own.

My late-reading dumpling was also very late to speak; he has only become easy to understand in the last year or so, since we quit speech therapy. He also cannot write. He recognizes the letters, but it is very difficult for him to make the pencil obey. He enjoys coloring and drawing, so my guess is that there is some neurological thing happening that makes reading and writing difficult for him. I really believe that his brain will mature in its own time, and reading will just happen, like clear speech did. No ammount of practicing sounds (therapy from age 3-7) had any effect at all. He is the deepest thinker of my kids, often coming up with insightful comments that would startle me from even an adult. I trust that his perception will carry him well in life, even if he never feels comfortable reading. This comes from me, a dedicated nerd, ex-bookstore owner, perpetual student. Never thought I'd say this, but reading isn't everything.

I recently had an eyeopening experience, trying to learn to read written Hebrew. I pick up languages fairly easily, and didn't anticipate this would be so difficult. But I really had a hard time trying to force my brain to associate these unfamiliar sqiggles with phonetic sounds. My motivation was high, the teacher was good, and I really put in the time and effort. But whichever synapses are supposed to make those connections must simply be absent. I learned a whole new appriciation for my son's struggles.
post #22 of 28
"I have met many unschooled kids who learned to read much later than that. For most of them, the learning curve is much shorter and they catch up with their peers in a short time once they are ready to read."

Yes. I think this is partly because they actually are learning how to read for a long time before it becomes obvious to others that they can. In other words, it appears that they can't and then all of a sudden they can, when in reality they've been picking up bits and pieces and developing processes over a long period of time. I see this in my 7.5 year old son -- we don't do school, and I haven't taught him how to read, and he can't read. But. He can speak and understand language. He knows the letters of the alphabet. He reads and writes his name. He asks infrequently that I show him how to write something, for example, for Valentine's Day he wanted "From" and "Love". The other day, putting in a name for a computer game, he asked for "and". Sometimes on the road he'll ask what a sign says. He often plays "word games" -- for instance, trying to think of words that rhyme with each other. All this to say that he is clearly taking in information and making connections, slowly but surely. I have no reason to believe that this won't continue, as it has since his birth, and eventually result in him being able to understand written language (just as he is able to understand spoken language, without having been schooled in it.)
post #23 of 28
"actually just the opposite is true. Research has show that many children have not developed the eye co-ordination for reading until age 7."

Sources for this research?
post #24 of 28

Trust the childres

Hey...where do i buy the book "Trust the children: An activity book for homeschoolers and other alternative learners" ?

Thanks!!!
post #25 of 28
I ordered my copy of Trust the Children: An Activity Guide for Homeschooling and Alernative Learning by Anna Kealoha from Amazon. I'm sure it's available other ways as well.
post #26 of 28

have you read

Dr Raymond Moore's better late than early??? If not I highly rec'd it
Read it twice.

I know a lady who unschooled her ds didn't read until 9. She just told him she would not read his gameboy game instructions for him anymore and he learned on his own-especially after he found out about searching the net for the 'cheat codes ' and 'god mode" stuff
She had to put him in school at 11 a crunchy alt one but he tested at 9th/11th and 12th in all but one area of the pre admission testing...

My 6 yr isn't fully reading yet but we are not worried. We have caught him reading more than he wants to let on he can. We have figured out why too so its all good
post #27 of 28
Quote:
Sources for this research?

I don't have any of the info infront of me, but every book I've read on Waldorf education sites research
post #28 of 28
If you have family who are Southern European immigrants, you may be related to people who learned to read as adults.

Many, many freed slaves learned to read as adults.

You can find all kinds of Puritan and Quaker stories about poor people learning to read their Bibles as adults.

The window of opportunity for reading is a myth. The only window there is is a window of obedience, and a window of feeling like you're not behind everyone else in the class.
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