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post #1 of 28
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Help! Every time we go over to my folks house and my 2 month old dd wants to nurse my mother makes comments. She tells my dd that she's too old to nurse and sais "yucky" as she squinches up her face. I ask her not to make comments like this and she tells me..."she's too old to still be nursing...when are you going to stop?" I tell her I'm letting dd decide when she's ready. Then she sais "you gave her a good start...she's too old.." It's the same conversation every time and every time I tell her to please not make comments...but she still does! So I try to stay away as much as possible but then there will be something that I'm needed for and it starts all over again! And for the record...my mother did not BF either my brother or myself. When dd #1 was a baby I lived with my parents for 9 months...I really wanted to nurse her and my mother made me feel like I was doing something disgusting and sinful. I was told I could only nurse upstairs in my bedroom and I was never to nurse in front of my dad or my brother. One time we went shopping at the mall and dd needed to nurse. I had a receiving blanket to be discreet yet she still got angry with me and told me to go nurse in the bathroom. I was so angry I asked her "do you eat your lunch in the bathroom? I will not feed my baby in a dirty filthy restroom." And I didn't...but I gave up nursing when she was just a few months old becasue I felt unsupported and discouraged...now 16 years later I know that I am doing a good thing for my child...I am sticking with nursing whether my mother approves or not. So how do I get her off my back? I've told her that she needs to be respectful of my choices or I won't come around and I've even exercized this point many times...but nothing seems to work...any suggestions from other bf mamas?
post #2 of 28
I'd tell her that:

#1 - She's your child, you're the parent and you will decide what's best for both yourself and her.

#2 - Ask her to find any information from a reputable source that says that 22 months is too old. I'm sure she won't be able to. At the same time, pull together the info showing that nursing beyond a year is normal and healthy.

#3 - Tell her that, if she continues to criticize your parenting, that you will not be able to spend time with her anymore. Does she really want that?

I know it seems harsh but she's not exactly being kind to YOU!

((HUGS))!!
post #3 of 28
I would tell her that I will not be around her nor allow my child around her if she makes comments about breastfeeding.
post #4 of 28
All great suggestions!

: Next time I would whip it right out in front of her and let dd nurse away. That is not rude.....her comments are!
post #5 of 28
She had her turn to parent, now it's your turn. I she continues to mess with you, don't go. Not worth it.
post #6 of 28
you know your mom best. Personally, I would probably freak out and have to give her the choice of either stop making the comments or stop seeing me and dd.

How about "I have heard your feelings about this, and clearly, I have made my own decision about this. This is not up for discussion so please do not bring it up again or I will have to leave'.

Make good on it and walk right out the door with your family the next time she does it.
post #7 of 28
i would really be creeped out and skip the visits. what she did to your 1st child ought to have sealed the matter. 'yucky'? that is beyond disrespect and into abuse.

suse
post #8 of 28
Thread Starter 

Wow...thanks for all the responses...

I've tried just going ahead and nursing anyway...that's when she makes the comments...I have threatened and followed through on leaving when she is commenting...I've told her that if she continues to be disrespectful of may parenting choices, my children and me that we will stay away from her...and I practice this all the time...she lives 5 minutes away but we don't drop in regularly...sometimes it once a month...then I get comments like...she's so big...she's so sweet...I haven't seen her in so long...so I think it really hurts her that we stay away...she's got alot of emotional issues because her own mother was really cruel to her...but she's stuck in that cycle and I'm choosing to break it...I don't want to be subjected to the disfunction anymore...so I guess it's more than just nursing issues...but my mother is a good person...she can be very kind and generous...and she punishes herself constantly with very low self esteem and depression...I know she cares and wants the best for all of us but she is very disfunctional...speaks without thinking and really sais some things that hit me right in the core...and when I tell her how I feel about it she thinks I hate her...that's not it at all...I just want her to think before she speaks and speak intelligently...I think finding info on BF to support my beliefs is a great idea...maybe if she read something in black and white it would make more of an impact than just hearing it from me...her radical way out there daughter...lol... She thinks cloth diapering is crazy too...but I'm sticking with it! Now I even sew them myself...I'm just doing what my heart tells me to this time around...Thanks all of you for your support.
post #9 of 28
Here are some quotes and some links that you can print info from to give to her.


http://www.kathydettwyler.org/dettwyler.html
great site of an anthropologist who studies breastfeeding, good article there about the natural age of weaning.

http://www.lalecheleague.org/lllead...FebMar98p3.html
"The adverse health effects of weaning a child before or during toddlerhood are well documented for Third World countries such as Guinea-Bissau, where children who were no longer breastfed at ages 12 to 35 months had a 3.5 times higher mortality than did their peers who continued to breastfeed. There is a lack of this type of comparative research between breastfeeding toddlers and preschoolers and their already weaned peers in economically advanced countries. The negative impact of early weaning on children's health is not as dramatically evident but in time it may prove to be significant.
The scientific evidence on extended breastfeeding is just now beginning to accumulate. A number of the health benefits are now being found to be related to the length of nursing with an increasing amount of benefit correlating with increased duration. This is the case, research has indicated, with breastfeeding's protective effect in maternal breast cancer, osteoporosis, childhood ear infections and malocclusion anomalies (misaligned teeth).
The word "benefit" is perhaps misleading here, for these "benefits" are what nature intended to be the human norm. Breastfeeding is normal. It is artificial feeding substitutes and premature weaning that are, in fact, abnormal from a biological viewpoint. It is these abnormal practices that place the child at increased risk of illness and compromised intelligence. "

American Academy of Pediatrics:
"It is recommended that breastfeeding continue for at least 12 months, and thereafter for as long as mutually desired."
http://aappolicy.aappublications.org...ics;100/6/1035

World Health Organization:
" Breastfeeding is an unequalled way of providing ideal food for the healthy growth and development of infants; it is also an integral part of the reproductive process with important implications for the health of mothers. A recent review of evidence has shown that, on a population basis, exclusive breastfeeding for 6 months is the optimal way of feeding infants. Thereafter infants should receive complementary foods with continued breastfeeding up to 2 years of age or beyond."
http://www.who.int/child-adolescent-..._exclusive.htm

American Academy of Family Physicians:
"Breastfeeding should ideally continue beyond infancy, but this is currently not the cultural norm and requires ongoing support and encouragement.85 Breastfeeding during a subsequent pregnancy is not unusual. If the pregnancy is normal and the mother is healthy, breastfeeding during pregnancy is the woman's personal decision. If the child is younger than two years of age, the child is at increased risk of illness if weaned. Breastfeeding the nursing child after delivery of the next child (tandem nursing) may help to provide a smooth transition psychologically for the older child."
http://www.aafp.org/x6633.xml

American Dietetic Association:
"Exclusive breastfeeding for 6 months and breastfeeding with complementary foods for at least 12 months is the ideal feeding pattern for infants. Increases in initiation and duration are needed to realize the health, nutritional, immunological, psychological, economical, and environmental benefits of breastfeeding."
http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/m.../article.jhtml



References:
http://www.who.int/child-adolescent...t_exclusive.htm
http://www.aafp.org/x6633.xml
http://www.breastfeedingonline.com/29.html
http://www.prairienet.org/laleche/detwean.html


http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Spa/3156/care.htm
quote:

The advantages of sustained
breastfeeding for care

Breastfeeding for three years or longer is not as uncommon as most researchers assume. Among La Leche League members in the USA even during the 1970s when breastfeeding rates were at their lowest level, it was practiced but kept it secret, "in the closet" [8]. Even in developing countries little attention is given to breastfeeding that takes place for several years. Some researchers seem unconsciously to adhere to "norms" that lead them to expect that little if any breastfeeding is taking place after a certain age (often two-three years). I have observed in both Ghana and Lesotho, children in school uniforms breastfeeding. These children, usually standing or kneeling beside mothers who were sitting, took the breast themselves from compliant mothers who otherwise went on with their business. Neither the mothers nor bystanders paid attention to these children's breastfeeding behavior.

-Ted Greiner

"In some cultures it is considered a child's birthright to be nursed until the age of two. It is believed all your sins are forgiven when you nurse your baby, and an angel stands behind you and pats you on the back when are done. I like to think of an angel standing behind me every time I nurse. It is a very comforting thought when things aren't going well. If you can't get support from your family, at least the angels are behind you."
post #10 of 28
Thread Starter 

Thanks Velcromom!

I think this will help me very much...especially since these are huge reputable organizations...I've go a lot of reading to do...thanks again.
post #11 of 28
I think your mom feels guilty that she didn't do it and looks at you with some level of jealousy/envy that she can't help. I get a LOT of this (not just on bfing, but on other things--like finishing college, staying away from caffeine while pg... you name it) from different people.

With my mom and my ILs, I try to "let them off the hook" with "you know, when you had me/dh, they had not yet discovered the benefits of this; but now they have..." For bfing, that' swiftly followed with "well, all my kids turned out just fine". The "excuse" that will usually shut them up (which really is my objective over anything else) is the convenience and cost of bfing... something that most mainstream people CAN identify and appreciate. I have no bottles to wash, no formula to buy or run out of and I never have to worry about having enough of either of these with me wherever I go. I don't have to listen to the baby scream for 3-5 minutes while I make a bottle, either. Believe it or not, even after explaining all of this I have people who STILL think that it is more INconvenient to bf!!!
post #12 of 28
The next time she asks when you plan to wean your child, look at her with a very staight face and say: "As soon as she finds breasts she likes better than mine."

You can also try: "If you don't like what you see, close your eyes."

Another idea: My dad often calls my son a "mama's boy" (my son is 16 months old...) and says he doesn't listen, blah blah blah. I have asked my father repeatedly to respect my decisions, and he has failed to do so. Now, every time he starts up, I pack up my thing, and plesantly tell everyone (including him) that I had a great time, but it's time for us to be off. SO far it's been a great way to passively yet firmly enforce to my dad that I need respect from him.
post #13 of 28
Thread Starter 

Heather...

I think you are right about the jealousy...hadn't thought about it that way before...my mom had 3 cesareans and I remember her commenting after my labor and delivery of dd #1 which she attended that she had no idea it was like that...I sensed some envy...or wonderment in her reaction and sensed that she felt she had missed out on something really amazing...she was asleep for all of our births... I guess that was pretty typical for birthing mothers cesarean or not in this area anyway...My daughter asked me the other day if I thought my mother and I had ever bonded after my birth...I was shocked by her question but it's made me think alot about my birth and life shortly there after...I was incubated...not sure how long...so I think there was no holding...and within a very short time she had to go back to work nights because my biological father had no job...they seperated when I was 6 weeks old so it must have been very difficult for my mom...plus she lost a baby at 7 months pregnant before me and that's got to be painful...so maybe we never really bonded...feels that way...I mean she loves me and all...but she doesn't know how to mother me...hmmmm...I feel very sad...this conversation helps me feel a little more compassionate...thanks...
post #14 of 28
Thread Starter 

Jyllian...

I've actually started doing just that...when I'm starting to feel disrespected or tense in any way or sense my kids getting tense I just calmly pack it up and we leave...it's alot nicer than argueing and fighting... So now that my folks know I'm serious and that I'm not playing it anymore they actually apologize...sometimes they wait a day or more but... hey...baby steps right?!
post #15 of 28
[she's got alot of emotional issues because her own mother was really cruel to her...but she's stuck in that cycle and I'm choosing to break it...I don't want to be subjected to the disfunction anymore...so I guess it's more than just nursing issues...but my mother is a good person...she can be very kind and generous...and she punishes herself constantly with very low self esteem and depression...I know she cares and wants the best for all of us but she is very disfunctional...speaks without thinking and really sais some things that hit me right in the core...and when I tell her how I feel about it she thinks I hate her...

Oh, honey,
Your mother sounds just like my mother. Hugs to you.
Good for you for choosing to break the cycle of dysfunction. I hear and applaud you.
I wonder if you have ever asked your mom why she thinks it's yucky? What are her negative assumptions about nursing a toddler? Maybe explain that the WHO recommends it, and American Academy of Pediatricians (not sure if that's the right name) even recommend nursing beyond a year, for the benefit of mom and baby. It may be worth exploring what erroneous thoughts are at the basis of her remarks if you want to invest the emotional energy there. It's your call though. Sounds like you've been dealing with this for a long time and your mother clearly has boundary issues.
Again, hugs to you.
post #16 of 28
She also sounds a lot like my mom. My mother has requested that I nurse my 3 year old in a bedroom, away from the rest of the family. I do not comply. She also gets really antsy when I nurse my 10 month old... Her problem, not mine. to you, mama.
post #17 of 28
I agree with the jealousy thing...and too, being calm, collective and frankly telling her that it is time to go would be a good move. Don't let her see you sweat and freak...that's more "her level."
post #18 of 28
I would stop visiting. Then when she invites you over or calls. Say “Mom since my nursing bothers you I am not going to visit until DC decides to wean herself. I have to go now. Bye, I love you.”

If she starts to bug you on visits. Say “Mom when you act that way it makes me feel uncomfortable.” She continues “Mom I am uncomfortable I am leaving.” Get up and leave with out another word.
post #19 of 28
"Boundaries" by Townsend is a good book on this topic. It is from the Christian perspective, but isn't preachy at all. I have found if very relevant and useful in many relationships, including with my parents.
post #20 of 28
Quote:
Originally Posted by Amasmama
So I try to stay away as much as possible but then there will be something that I'm needed for and it starts all over again!
So she "needs" you, huh? Tell her that you "NEED" for her to be respectful of your parenting choices; and if she's not, whatever she "needs" you for will go unfulfilled. Either both of you get your needs filled, or neither of you do.

I would really draw a firm boundary here. She speaks negatively about bf = you leave and don't come back. Real simple.

(Sorry, I don't usually post in this forum. But I DO have very negative relatives that don't know when to stop trying to dictate our parenting decisions.)
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