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post #81 of 126
Well no one here smokes, at all, ever, my FIL smokes and we have had many a family throw downs about him smoking in a house where my kids are (or are soon going to be) because cig smoke can literally KILL my child. He has RAD and it is dangerous for him to be around smoke at all.

However the postal worker that delivers our mail is a walking chimney, he always has a cig hanging out of his mouth, it is so bad that when he rings the doorbell when I have a package I pretend not to be home because if I open the door my whole house smells like smoke. I hate it. Anyway I have had packages come from people I KNOW don't smoke and they smell slightly like smoke, however a thick gaggy smell is more likely to be coming from a home that has smoke, or a wood type burner.
post #82 of 126
For me, I think part of the turn off of receiving a package like that from a WAHM is that I feel that a WAHM purchase is more personal than a retail purchase.
post #83 of 126
IMO, I don't think she should have to disclose that she, or anyone in her house, is a smoker.
post #84 of 126
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Originally Posted by binxsmom
only if it's patchouli. BLECHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
i detest that scent. i bought an item that was washed in patchouli wool wash and it took 4 washings to get the scent totally out.

You would so hate my house then! I have been wearing patchouli since I was 13 maybe? I don't even need to put it on and I think I smell like it... I can't even smell it anymore but people say DH, the kids and our house smell like it (and inscense). Does this mean you won't put in a bid for DH?
post #85 of 126
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by didelphus
I certainly wouldn't pick out a pair of jeans off the rack to buy if they smelled like cigarette smoke. By the same token I'd not be happy if my new dipes smelled like smoke. Seems a little...uh, unprofessional. I think smokers really can't smell the lingering smoke so it isn't a big deal to them. They probably think no one would even notice. But no, I can sniff out stale cigarette smoke on anything and it makes me ill!

That's what I keep thinking about. I wouldn't go to Target to buy clothes if they smelled like smoke.

This has only happened to me once. I did get the smell out with using tea tree oil.

I just want my fluff to smell yummy, like it was made with love I can't help but think of smoking as dirty. I use to smoke before I had children, I remember what my hands smelled and looked like. Guess I can't get that out of my head.

I agree some packages could stink if your postal worker smokes. Mine doesn't and I have never had a package smell like this and believe me I have had lots of fluff come through this house :LOL It could be that the wahm herself doesn't smoke that it is someone in the house.

I think it's good that people talk about this. Smoking is so bad for you and I encourge anyone who is still smoking to quit. You don't want to dye of lung caner. It is slow and painful.

Ok I will jump off my soapbox
post #86 of 126
I think it should be disclosed as well...especially if they're selling preemie and newborn diapers since breathing and smoke exposure is a big deal, especially for new and tiny babies...
post #87 of 126
it's a tough call. I definitely see both sides. Like Donna, I agree that smoke smells are the worst for former smokers (especially those of us who live in smoke free states/areas). I don't want smoky smelling things coming around to my house. You can be sure the first thing that happens to any stinky item in my house is that it hits the washer.

But it's a diaper; it's going to be washed. If it were some super hyena diaper, would it matter? I suppose a person has a right to kill themselves off slowly with expensive and addictive cancer sticks. If it were me, I'd do a strip wash and put some baking soda filled socks in with the diaper stash.

OTOH, what if it's a wool cover? Much more difficult to get that smell out, and putting wear on the fabric in the process.

I guess I think it should be disclosed in the small print somewhere. It could save on shipping and refund hassles for the WAHM if she takes things back. But then again, if you love it and wash it, it probably shouldn't matter.
post #88 of 126
Its the nastiest stink ever, and I used to smoke and never realized how gross it is. I would send the diaper back. Just because its a WAHM doesnt mean she shouldnt be responsible for her product. It is something she made and sells and I pay money for.

edited to add- I once bought a baby cozy nest sleeper thing at Target and when I took it out of the box it *REEKED* of smoke. Clearly someone had returned it. Sure I could have washed it, but I spend my hard earned money on it- I should get something clean and new.
post #89 of 126
This thread kind of makes me sad People who don't like smoke so much need to take it upon themselves to find out if a WAHM has smoke in her home. Is she supposed to put a HUGE SCARLET S all over her site just so you don't have to ask? Lots of people have sensitivities and issues with various things, not just cigarette smoke. If you feel that strongly about it, ASK!
I personally like to see it when it says "Pet free/Smoke free home". I don't have a pet free home but I sort of do. I'm not sure how to list that. My dog only stays in the back room and in the yard. He doesnt' come in the rest of the house so doesn't come in contact with anything I might have sent to anyone. Is that pet free enough? I don't know much about people with pet allergies.
Also, Dimitrius smokes when he's on break at work. He smokes outside and wears a wool jacket and I rarely smell smoke on him. He doesnt' smoke in the car because he doesnt' want smoke residue around our children. Is that smoke free enough? He only smokes organic American Spirits too and only about 2 a day. Is that OK for the smoke police?
Oh yeah. I also don't like perfumy packages. I will wash those even faster than I would wash a non-perfumy package. But I wash everything anyway. Used AND new.

To the OP. I might have been taken aback by the smell too. But I guess it's bad to just assume. I know there are some wool soakers on ebay that are very well made and cheap and they always reek of smoke. It's a joke on this one forum where people call them stinkerbelles because they stink. But the quality, workmanship and price can't be beat. So they buy them anyway and wash them. Only you can make the consumer choice to support or not support smokers. But i don't see what's so bad about them.
post #90 of 126
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Originally Posted by kavamamakava
This thread kind of makes me sad People who don't like smoke so much need to take it upon themselves to find out if a WAHM has smoke in her home. Is she supposed to put a HUGE SCARLET S all over her site just so you don't have to ask? Lots of people have sensitivities and issues with various things, not just cigarette smoke. If you feel that strongly about it, ASK!
I personally like to see it when it says "Pet free/Smoke free home". I don't have a pet free home but I sort of do. I'm not sure how to list that. My dog only stays in the back room and in the yard. He doesnt' come in the rest of the house so doesn't come in contact with anything I might have sent to anyone. Is that pet free enough? I don't know much about people with pet allergies.
I agree 100%
post #91 of 126
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Originally Posted by Headymama
I agree 100%
me too. well put, kava.
post #92 of 126
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Originally Posted by kavamamakava
People who don't like smoke so much need to take it upon themselves to find out if a WAHM has smoke in her home. Is she supposed to put a HUGE SCARLET S all over her site just so you don't have to ask?
I don't think I should have to ask. I think I should be able to assume, by default, that my diapers are not going to smell like cigarette smoke.

Here's an alternative to the huge red disclosure: STOP SMOKING. Or insist that the member of your household stop smoking. If such attempts are unsuccessful, it is my opinion that one should not attempt to run a home based business that involves producing items (especially items that are made with FABRIC, which absorbs odors) and selling them to people through the mail. In my opinion, making sure that none of the members of your household are smokers is just as necessary to starting such a business as making sure you have a sewing machine in working order.

Flame away!
post #93 of 126
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Originally Posted by Sustainer
YUCK!!!

Did you complain to *her*? Or did you complain to USPS?
We complained to the local postmaster...
post #94 of 126
Honestly, it has never occured to me to ask if the diaper would be in any contact with smoke.

I think it just came as a shock to the OP being that the cding population is cding because of health risks and environmental hazards that sposies pose.
post #95 of 126
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Originally Posted by HokieMum
We complained to the local postmaster...
I wonder who the next rung up from the local postmaster would be? Some sort of regional manager? I'd keep going up the ladder until you get satisfaction. I wouldn't put up with mail smelling like smoke.
post #96 of 126
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Originally Posted by kavamamakava
This thread kind of makes me sad People who don't like smoke so much need to take it upon themselves to find out if a WAHM has smoke in her home. Is she supposed to put a HUGE SCARLET S all over her site just so you don't have to ask? Lots of people have sensitivities and issues with various things, not just cigarette smoke. If you feel that strongly about it, ASK!
I personally like to see it when it says "Pet free/Smoke free home". I don't have a pet free home but I sort of do. I'm not sure how to list that. My dog only stays in the back room and in the yard. He doesnt' come in the rest of the house so doesn't come in contact with anything I might have sent to anyone. Is that pet free enough? I don't know much about people with pet allergies.
Also, Dimitrius smokes when he's on break at work. He smokes outside and wears a wool jacket and I rarely smell smoke on him. He doesnt' smoke in the car because he doesnt' want smoke residue around our children. Is that smoke free enough? He only smokes organic American Spirits too and only about 2 a day. Is that OK for the smoke police?
Oh yeah. I also don't like perfumy packages. I will wash those even faster than I would wash a non-perfumy package. But I wash everything anyway. Used AND new.

To the OP. I might have been taken aback by the smell too. But I guess it's bad to just assume. I know there are some wool soakers on ebay that are very well made and cheap and they always reek of smoke. It's a joke on this one forum where people call them stinkerbelles because they stink. But the quality, workmanship and price can't be beat. So they buy them anyway and wash them. Only you can make the consumer choice to support or not support smokers. But i don't see what's so bad about them.


I personally like to buy things that don't smell like smoke, but it's not the end of the world if it does. I'm a huge fan of Tinker's soakers, and as you stated, those things always come reeking of smoke. It washes out.

Of course, we don't have allergies over here and I've been known to indulge in a Marlboro Light outdoors on occasion so maybe I'm not the norm.
post #97 of 126
In all my experience of diaper buying I have never had this problem, even with second hand ones. Maybe just lucky. I think if it happened I'd throw them in the wash and hope for the best. I wouldn't bother the maker of the dipes with it, but I don't think I'd necessarily buy from her again either.

On the other hand could you return a new diaper (unwashed, unworn) that didn't come smelling of smoke but acquired that smell in your house, and expect a refund? What would other diaper making mamas do about that sort of thing? Could you take a return on something like that and resell it, ya know? To my mind that diaper is soiled.
post #98 of 126
Generally I think we hold wahms up to higher standards than workers in other industries, but not on this. We wouldn't expect anything less from any other product we buy.

For those with chemical sensitivites, asthma and allergies it is a big deal. And not disclosing can mean loosing clients just as much as disclosing. I know I don't want to have to email every wahm I want to buy from and ask if they have pets and if they smoke. I already feel like I bug them enough with questions on fabrics, turn around time, and stuff like that.

I have seen alot of wahms disclose what kind of detergent they wash the fabrics in, surely having pets and smoking would be no less important to disclose? I disclose on my auctions and fsot listings that I have a smoke free pet loving home. I would rather have someone not buy from me than have someone assume I didn't have pets and get something with pet hair and have a terrible reaction to it kwim?


Michelle
post #99 of 126
I agree with you too kavamamakava.

I think ppl are blowing this waaaay out of proportion. Of course I expect products I buy to not reek of smoke. Certainly if someone is blowing smoke on products they should disclose that. But someone smoking in the basement of the house the wahm's products are in... not that big a deal to me.
post #100 of 126
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Originally Posted by kindmomma
I have never noticed a smokey smell in a package but I did get an order of soap once that had a HUGE human hairball in it like the WAHM had cleaned her hairbrush out......it totally freaked me out. I even joked to a friend about having to pay shipping on the hair :LOL
OMG Shelly! :
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