Circumcision is natural?!?!

[the_lissa]

Some guy was talking about how nursing in public is bad. He said yes it is natural, but so is conception, childbirth, and circumcision, but we don't do that in public either.

How on earth can even the biggest pro-circumcision person think that circumcision is natural???

That attitude is so sad. This is why circ keeps happening. It is so prevalent that people think it is natural.

[calngavinsmom]

Yeah, I've heard that one before too:Puke

Tara

[CherryBomb]

I don't understand the logistics of that. How on earth is circ'ing natural? It just doesn't make any sense.

[paquerette]

Sounds like this guy wasn't a real winner to begin with.

[philomom]

Tell me, what other mammals are walking around with their foreskin cut off?

[Evergreen]

: Yeah, I wouldn't take anything that guy said too seriously


When my husband's brother's wife was in labor with their son dh tried one last effort at talking them out of it, and his brother responed, "But it's natural."

[Jessviola]

natural? um, yeah, that's why they're born with them...Is it also natural to rip off our fingernails? hmm, that's a bad analogy because it could actually be done without foreign utensils.....bleh, is there really a way to reason with someone of that mindset? I don't think he's in a place where he's open to educating himself

[njeb]

Sure it's natural. So is bottlefeeding.

[kxsiven]

It just shows how deep the cultural brainwashing goes. I just feel so sorry for this guy that he has no idea what is robbed from him in the name of cultural custom.

His breastfeeding comment was also quite a brainy one. Here in Scandinavia he would have been laughed at for comments like that. Babies are allowed to eat anywhere, no matter if the milk comes from breast or bottle and no one, not even horny 14 years old teenager-boy would think anything sexual or nasty about exposed breast with baby attached to it.

[Ilaria]

What did you say?

[menudo]

Gezz-I mean you KNOW that the foreskin is just extra skin on the penis. We have evolved so much it sserves no purpose..like the appendix. So it HAS to be cut off at birth...


I heard this man years ago and IMO that is the common attitude and thinking (HA! thinking!)

[Frankly Speaking]

Originally Posted by bebesho2

Gezz-I mean you KNOW that the foreskin is just extra skin on the penis. We have evolved so much it sserves no purpose..like the appendix. So it HAS to be cut off at birth...

Funny, I was just thinking about this before coming on line and it really doesn't make any sense.

Some lardhead has come up with the idea that the foreskin is something left over from our long lost past when we ran around naked and the purpose was to protect the glans from briars, etc. Well, just a little critical thinking kills that with ease.

Men, especially in colder climates have been clothing the nether regions for millenia and this clothing would serve the protective function of the foreskin. The same people who advance this thinking also advance the notion that the foreskin is a naturally problematic structure that bedevils it's possesor their entire lives. Now, if this were true and there was no longer a need for a foreskin and if the part was rife with problems, men with shorter foreskins would be reproducing at higher rates than men with long foreskins and those shorter foreskin genes would become dominant in the gene pool. As a result, there would be a significant and noticeable shortening of the average length of the foreskin but no such thing has happened. From ancient art and sculpture more than 6,000 years old, it is obvious that the average foreskin is just as long as it ever was.

While the foreskin may have had a secondary function of protecting the glans of ancient humans thousands upon thousands of years ago, it is clear that it's main function of preserving sexual sensitivity and making coitus comfortable and pleasurable for the female is it's main purpose. It is also clear from our population numbers on earth that the foreskin is not a problematical structure rife with infection or it would have seriously hindered our reproduction and our current concerns about overpopulating the earth would be of no concern at all. There just wouldn't be enough of us for that to be a concern.




Frank

[Thmom]

I like your line of thinking there Frank.

I don't see how even the most ignorant could think that it's natural... I suppose it goes along with any form of vaginal delivery is "natural" too now, even if she had an epidural...

[the_lissa]

Originally Posted by Ilaria

What did you say?

Nothing because it was a voice mail aired on a call in show about the previous show's topic of breastfeeding in public.

[lynsage]

many people apply the word "natural" to what they think of as "normal" or socially acceptable. i'm not sure if it's a regional dialect type thing, but there are tons of people who do it.

example: my high school boyfriend being upset that i didn't shave my legs or armpits or wax my "bikini area" (good lord, i hate that euphemism) because it was "not natural" for women to have body hair.

um, yeah, that's why it grows there all by itself, because it's so un-natural

i'm sure the same kind of person would think of a perfectly natural foreskin as being un-natural. but what do we expect in a society that sells pre-packaged processed frankenfoods as "all-natural" and sells "natural" body care products full of chemicals and dyes, scented with petrochemical fragrances that they market as allegedly being made of lavender, vanilla, etc.?

some of us are the real flowers growing in an "herbal essences" world, i guess...