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post #101 of 160
The thing that bothers me is that it is not our choice. And we are acting like it is.

MDC is a FREE discussion group. I trust and believe in the people running it.

I feel that we are being picky, self rightous brats. It is not our judgement call to make. It is MDC's. While I appreciate their openness in allowing us to discuss such topics, we should trust that they have our best interest in mind.

For us to tell them to pull the plug on their advertisers....it should be done with caution. We would need to put our money were our mouth is. Alot of members in this community would not be able to afford to do so. We should be grateful for what we have here at MDC.
post #102 of 160
Alright, this comes full circle.

Should any MDC member solicit money or goods for any other MDC member?

Maybe this should go to TAO.
post #103 of 160
post #104 of 160
What are you rolling on about? I think I know...
post #105 of 160
The rules, no matter what they are, must be the same for everyone. Perhaps the mothers who are in financial disasters should take out an ad for each other? My point is where do you draw the line?

I totally understand that this particulair ad is one that came to fruition out of love and compassion and I respect that.

But again, rule have to be consistent IMO.

How would you all feel if any of the Moms who have recently had threads pulled, who are reaching out to save their children and their homes, what if I started an ad for them?

Ad not thread. If I started an Ad. This is different than the Mom's in Need thread at Christmas. What if I advertised the plight of a underpriviledged mom?

Sure the content would be different, but how is the generality of the ad any different?

Hmmmmm
post #106 of 160
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Originally Posted by Arduinna
Wouldn't it be up to whoever paid for and ran the ad to pull it or not?

regardless, I think it's been made quite clear that the people posting about the appropiateness of the ad are questioning ads of this type. The issue is are ads of this type appropriate on MDC. It doesn't matter if it's for Adina. After all we hopefully have consistant rules and decision making, right?

I am continually astounded by posters that insist on making things an us vs them argument instead of being able to engage in discussion over concepts.
: I very much agree. Someone asked a question and got hostile responses and it's just gone from there. I don't think those who were asking about the ad in anyway meant their questions as a personal affront or insult they just wanted to know what was going on.

I will also say that I didn't feel that the poster who said she wouldn't donate because she doesn't know Adina personally was at all meaning that as a personal insult but simply a statement of fact. She doesn't know her and therefore doesn't know that she'd be a good parent. That's not to say that she thinks Adina would be a bad parent but just that since she doesn't know her she wouldn't be comfortable contributing to her fertility treatments. I understand that there are people personally invested in this discussion because they are personally invested in the subject matter but I don't think the people who are doing the asking are making personal comment because to them this is an objective not personal discussion. I'm very sorry that Adina's feelings were hurt but it does seem that things have gotten very out of hand and well beyond the scope of the OP's question.
post #107 of 160
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Originally Posted by splendid
What are you rolling on about? I think I know...
it wasn't your post, we posted at the same time

:LOL
post #108 of 160
: I love being talked about in third person. :
post #109 of 160
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Originally Posted by AngelBee
The thing that bothers me is that it is not our choice. And we are acting like it is.

MDC is a FREE discussion group. I trust and believe in the people running it.

I feel that we are being picky, self rightous brats. It is not our judgement call to make. It is MDC's. While I appreciate their openness in allowing us to discuss such topics, we should trust that they have our best interest in mind.

For us to tell them to pull the plug on their advertisers....it should be done with caution. We would need to put our money were our mouth is. Alot of members in this community would not be able to afford to do so. We should be grateful for what we have here at MDC.
You know what, Angel- you have the right to your opinion. So does everyone else. You have complained that others have been rude, and yet here you are saying "we" are picky self-righteous brats.

Personally, I find trusting that someone else has your best interest in mind to be dangerous. We have told them to pull the plug on certain advertisers, and they have. We have complained about other ads, and they stay. I am a Mothering subscriber and have donated in other ways, but, frankly, that's no one else's business. Being grateful does not mean being silent.
post #110 of 160
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Originally Posted by mountain mom
The rules, no matter what they are, must be the same for everyone. Perhaps the mothers who are in financial disasters should take out an ad for each other? My point is where do you draw the line?
yeah, you can't.

ads are obviously a hot button issue. i would love to see mdc member participation in the guidelines for and approval of actual ads. i realize this is not a democracy, but it is a community. i personally believe that members should have a voice. please check out my thread in Q & A. i will go bump.
post #111 of 160
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Originally Posted by mountain mom
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How would you all feel if any of the Moms who have recently had threads pulled, who are reaching out to save their children and their homes, what if I started an ad for them?

Ad not thread. If I started an Ad. This is different than the Mom's in Need thread at Christmas. What if I advertised the plight of a underpriviledged mom?
I would say go for it, if you had the mom's permission to share her story and MDC's approval.
post #112 of 160
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Originally Posted by AdinaL
: I love being talked about in third person. :

Oh be quiet. This may be a conversation about you, for you , against you (but not really you). How dare you contribute to the conversation.

Speaking of which the topic of this conversation is at the top of my page.
post #113 of 160
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Originally Posted by annettemarie
Being grateful does not mean being silent.
ITA

You ain't gonna get no grease if you don't squeak a little.
post #114 of 160
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Originally Posted by AdinaL
: I love being talked about in third person. :
your ears have been burning I know it.


now take a shower already, you stink!
post #115 of 160
Annettemarie....sorry I did not specify. I meant to include myself also. All of us....together...as a group.
post #116 of 160
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The rules, no matter what they are, must be the same for everyone. Perhaps the mothers who are in financial disasters should take out an ad for each other? My point is where do you draw the line?
Good point.

I have a hard time with online charity - in general - because it is such an unkown. Is my money actually going to someone who needs it? For me...in this situation...Adina is someone I have talked with extensively online. She is a very established member of this community (as evidenced by her post count :LOL and her join date).

If someone had been here for just a couple of months and said...I need money for XYZ...no matter how worthy it seemed, I would be inclined NOT to send money.

I'm not addressing the issue of ads and what's appropriate. I realize that. Just sharing my 2 cents about "online charity."

Oh and I say...let's keep talking, even when it is difficult. It's really good for us and MDC.

~Erin
post #117 of 160
I said "we". Would that not include me???
post #118 of 160
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Originally Posted by AngelBee
Annettemarie....sorry I did not specify. I meant to include myself also. All of us....together...as a group.
Which doesn't change the fact that you called all of us... together... as a group "picky, self rightous brats".
post #119 of 160
damn...this thread is movin' fast.

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: I love being talked about in third person. :

Hee...hee.
post #120 of 160
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Originally Posted by annettemarie
here you are saying "we" are picky self-righteous brats.

:LOL
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