Help Adina get Pregnant ad - Page 7

[AdinaL]

Originally Posted by Arduinna

your ears have been burning I know it.


now take a shower already, you stink!

Hey! :


Okay, yeah well, I do....:LOL

And there is a paid member option in which you do not see the ads....

[hotmamacita]

Originally Posted by mountain mom

The rules, no matter what they are, must be the same for everyone. Perhaps the mothers who are in financial disasters should take out an ad for each other? My point is where do you draw the line?

I totally understand that this particulair ad is one that came to fruition out of love and compassion and I respect that.

But again, rule have to be consistent IMO.

How would you all feel if any of the Moms who have recently had threads pulled, who are reaching out to save their children and their homes, what if I started an ad for them?

Ad not thread. If I started an Ad. This is different than the Mom's in Need thread at Christmas. What if I advertised the plight of a underpriviledged mom?

I have wanted to do the same. If you decide to, I would like to help.

[AngelBee]

My point was.....it is NOT OUR decision. It is for the people who run MDC to decide what ads to run.

That is nice of them to take our input......but they do not have to.

I just think sometimes we think that the decisions here (MDC) are ours to make. They are not.

[Arduinna]

so your only point in posting in this thread is to tell us all to mind our own businesss.


um so, why not just take your own advice that you give regarding the ads, just don't click here if it's not for you.

[annettemarie]

Originally Posted by AngelBee

My point was.....it is NOT OUR decision. It is for the people who run MDC to decide what ads to run.

That is nice of them to take our input......but they do not have to.

I just think sometimes we think that the decisions here (MDC) are ours to make. They are not.

Angela, you are missing my point and I disagree with yours, so let's just let it go.

[AngelBee]

Ok....it is times like these I HATE computers!!!

Ard and Annettemarie.............you are taking what I said in the totally WRONG tone.

Thanks Ard for being snarky. I am trying to give the people in charge of MDC some slack. How annoying it must be to have their every decision questioned.

[annettemarie]

I'm sure when it gets to be too much they will come on here and tell us. It's not like they've been shy about making decisions, or have been pushed around by us in the past.

[Lousli]

Sadly, I am removing the link in my signature at Adina's request. I'm so sorry this got out of hand and people were hurt and offended. Mostly, I'm sorry that you were hurt Adina. So lame, when all we wanted was to help.

What is interesting to me is that many people are questioning if the rules are the same for everyone. As I pointed out in a previous post, I think we were the first to do this, post an ad to link to a donation website. I could really see your point if they allowed us to put up an Ad for Adina while they were denying other people's donation ads, but so far, I haven't seen or heard of that happening. Donation *threads* get pulled, but I haven't seen anyone complain yet that their donation ad, so long as it was in line with MDC's requirements, had not been allowed. Why complain about something that isn't actually happening?

If you want to create a website to help needy MDC moms and their kids, then create a banner to link to it, and purchse ad space here...then do it! Who told you that it wouldn't be allowed? When did it become an issue of who is more deserving? I just saw a banner ad to link to the fluff factory charity auction. How is this any different? I'm truly not trying to be inflammatory, I just don't understand what the problem is.

[splendid]

Originally Posted by Lousli

If you want to create a website to help needy MDC moms and their kids, then create a banner to link to it, and purchse ad space here...then do it! Who told you that it wouldn't be allowed? When did it become an issue of who is more deserving? I just saw a banner ad to link to the fluff factory charity auction. How is this any different? I'm truly not trying to be inflammatory, I just don't understand what the problem is.

I spend a lot of time in Q & A, here is a link you may find of interest:

Clarification on the charity fundraiser threads

[splendid]

Originally Posted by Lousli

If you want to create a website to help needy MDC moms and their kids, then create a banner to link to it, and purchse ad space here...then do it! Who told you that it wouldn't be allowed? When did it become an issue of who is more deserving? I just saw a banner ad to link to the fluff factory charity auction. How is this any different? I'm truly not trying to be inflammatory, I just don't understand what the problem is.

I spend a lot of time in Q & A, here is a link you may find of interest:

Clarification on the charity fundraiser threads

It has one of the best quotes about MDC on it too...

[Lousli]

Originally Posted by splendid

I spend a lot of time in Q & A, here is a link you may find of interest:

Clarification on the charity fundraiser threads

Again, this is about *threads* not about paid banner ads. They are different. You will notice that the threads about the Fluff Factory auction are being pulled, but the paid banner ad is still there. I just saw it, not 10 minutes ago.

ETA: Cynthia posted this clarification in the thread:

"Certain private fundraisers are acceptable for free signature advertising and banner advertising upon request and within limit. This is subject to approval by the administration."

Apparently the ad created for Adina fell into this category. Again, I'm not seeing the problem here.

[mmace]

I don't feel like I really "know" you, Adina, but I wanted to tell you that I'm sorry you are feeling weird (for lack of a better word) about this thread, and I hope that I will soon read a thread from you announcing your pregnancy.

[splendid]

Originally Posted by Lousli

Again, this is about *threads* not about paid banner ads. They are different. You will notice that the threads about the Fluff Factory auction are being pulled, but the paid banner ad is still there. I just saw it, not 10 minutes ago.

Actually, Cynthia addresses ads and threads in the link I posted.

[Lousli]

Okay, going back to reread, I saw that Cynthia says this:

"But we do not and will not permit members to post to any forum asking for money for their personal causes or to promote fundraisers ot auctions that do not meet our criteria for fundraising and charity.

Personal fundraisers can be appropriate. But again the the website linked to cannot be commercial and should not advertise or promote business in anyway. If we were presented with a fundraiser for a member of the board, and the webpage and cause was approved for promoting in some way or another at MDC, we would certainly do that within the criteria and guidelines we have. But requests must be made and approved."

I think people are getting worked up because there is a difference in policy regarding charity/fundraising threads and charity/fundraising ads. People have had the experience of having their charity threads pulled, and thus feel that the Adina ad is somehow unfair. But it looks to me like there is just a different policy for threads and for ads. It seems that if your ad meets the guidlines of MDC, and is approved by MDC, it can be posted. We got the ad for Adina approved, we didn't violate any rules. Why are people all up in arms about it's unfairness?

[thismama]

Originally Posted by Lousli

Mostly, I'm sorry that you were hurt Adina. So lame, when all we wanted was to help.

I don't know you but I am sorry too Adina.

Your posts to this thread have been very gracious, which is consistent with how people who do know you say you are as a person.

I too have difficulty asking for anything for myself, and the way this thread has gone would definitely be messing with that particular neurosis if it were about me (altho I know you didn't ask for yourself). Remember that those who do not know you are discussing only a theoretical issue (forgetting imo about the fact that unlike business ads there is a person involved here), and take in the great support and love I can see expressed from so many people who do know you.

I feel like I know you a little now because of this drama, and I am sending you warm wishes and good conception vibes. Altho the ad has unfortunately been pulled, it is my hope that more people will know of your desire to get pg and will donate and send good vibes.

[rubelin]

Lousli, I think you might be onto something (and so glad you've summed things up so well, I was starting to lose heart the longer this thread got). I am very sad to hear that the ad "might" be pulled (and hoping it doesn't). I heard about it in a thread similar to this one before I saw it (since banner ads rotate it might take days for someone to even see it) and was thrilled to death to see that there was finally a way to give back to someone who has helped me and so many others.

I think having ads for charity sites is a fabulous idea, so long as the charity is in line with the MDC guidelines. I guess it's always hard to break new ground, as well, and am hoping that this thread is really just about that aspect, and truly not about who is more deserving than who.

There will always be some who are offended at being asked to give money to someone they don't know, heck, even to someone they do know. That is the hardest part of fundraising for anything, getting past people's offense and defensiveness. I can understand someone not feeling comfortable donating to someone's pregnancy fund when you don't know them, and you are not the demographic that this particular ad is for. I also think it really didn't have to be expounded upon; just say you don't contribute to people you don't know and leave it at that.

[DaryLLL]

If the ad is consistent with MDC policies, I have no problem with it.

The wording, however, is an obvious sexual double entendre, or "innuendo", which is aganst mdc policy. That I do have a problem with.

It is lightly humorous and eye-catching (and I happen to think we adults are mature enough to enjoy this kind of humor), but still, this kind of humor is not allowed on threads (supposedly to protect children who may be reading over their others' shoulders) and this policy is being strictly enforced on threads. So why is it allowed on an ad approved by Cynthia Mosher?

"Getting someone pregnant," in case it does not appear obvious, involved penises and sperm and intercourse. This working was chosen specifically to make potential donors think of this.

[thismama]

Originally Posted by DaryLLL

"Getting someone pregnant," in case it does not appear obvious, involved penises and sperm and intercourse. This working was chosen specifically to make potential donors think of this.

Uh, not necessarily. That certainly isn't what I think of first when I think of getting pregnant. And in this case, it's not what it's referring to. You might think of penises and sperm and intercourse if you are looking at pregnancy achievement from a heterosexist/sexual frame, but that's your bias, not the ad's message.

I hardly think whether this ad contained innuendo or not is an issue compared to the fact it was intended to be a tongue in cheek way to help an actual person. But the argument that it was *gasp* innuendo does not hold waterimo.

[AngelBee]

Originally Posted by thismama

Uh, not necessarily. That certainly isn't what I think of first when I think of getting pregnant. And in this case, it's not what it's referring to. You might think of penises and sperm and intercourse if you are looking at pregnancy achievement from a heterosexist/sexual frame, but that's your bias, not the ad's message.

I hardly think whether this ad contained innuendo or not is an issue compared to the fact it was intended to be a tongue in cheek way to help an actual person. But the argument that it was *gasp* innuendo does not hold waterimo.

I agree with thismama!!!

[thismama]

AND, if I may continue on my soapbox for a moment, my understanding is that discussion of sexuality is acceptable if it is in relation to conception, pregnancy, or childbirth.