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post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
Ok....I am so frustrated! My children are out of control! The puppy keeps biting me! I am losing my patience!

I am trying to be GD but they have NO concern for what I am saying.

I feel like I neeed to impliment something drastic to regain normalcy.

They will not listen to me!!!! At all!!!

I am saying mean things to them!!!

I am yelling!!!

HELP!!!
post #2 of 14


OK, let's start with a lighthearted list of things you'd LIKE to do but really won't:

1) When the puppy bites, bit it back.

2) Duct tape the kids into the closet until they listen.

3) Sell the kids and dog on eBay or the MDC TP.

4) Sell yourself on eBay.

OK, now that you've had a good laugh and you're feeling a little less yucky, maybe post some details and we can try to come up with solutions for you.
post #3 of 14
I started by making my children stay right beside me. As in arms reach. Baby was strapped on. (A sling works best but duct tape will also do in a pinch ) In our house you are only allowed away from mama if mama can trust you to follow the rules. And not just the letter of the law but the spirit of it also. if I can't trust you I need to help you learn and I can't teach you anything whenyou are not close enough to hear me.

It was painful for the first couple of weeks but once they got it figured out and stopped whining and saw I as going to calmly carry on until they stopped and listened, listened and learned, learned and became trust worthy, that they were going to be stuck with me doing what I do. Which is mostly cleaning So I have way over simplified this but it isnt a punishment. It is a lifestyle. They have learned to love being close to me interacting and I have learned to love being close to them. I spy more oppritunities to be affectionate for good reasons and no reason at all. I can nip problems in the bud before they become huge things. It is easier for me to discern attitude problems that are causing behavior problems and address them over the behavior (which prevents it from spreading to a list of bad behaviors.) It gives us more of a chance to communicate in a casual way so that I can slip in lessons here and there on things they need to know, are stuggeling with or that I for see coming up.

There is a thread somewhere called "what do you do for discipline" where I give more details. I can post a link later if it isn't handy anymore.

but the key to breaking the reactive cycle and stepping into the proactvie (which was the heart of it for me) was deciding that my entire focus was going to be on them and they were going to be the very center of my attention until I got thier attention and then they were going to hang out with me until they started getting it.
post #4 of 14
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruthla


OK, let's start with a lighthearted list of things you'd LIKE to do but really won't:

1) When the puppy bites, bit it back.

2) Duct tape the kids into the closet until they listen.

3) Sell the kids and dog on eBay or the MDC TP.

4) Sell yourself on eBay.

OK, now that you've had a good laugh and you're feeling a little less yucky, maybe post some details and we can try to come up with solutions for you.
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post #5 of 14
Thread Starter 
ok.....the kids were turning off all of the lights. They came into the office...where I am...and were going to turn off the light. I asked them not to. They grabbed the light switch and were going to shut it off. I said please don't. They said they were going to turn it down. I said no. They said they were going to shut the door. I said no.

Ok...as I typre this sounds stupid......but this goes on ALL day. Everything I say/request it NOT taken seriously. I don't want to overly authorive, but I do want to be respected. I am sick of saying, "When you don't listen it hurts mamas feelings." If I scream and threaten they stop. If I am kind they walk all over me. This is killing my spirit!!!
post #6 of 14

Nak

Angel Bee, I'm typing w/ one hand. I seem to remember that you moved recently. Not too long ago, moving was a tough and intense couple months of adjustment and wacky behavior in our family.

I have no idea what your day is like, but once I got some of rooms set up, I started devoting a couple hours a day to just playing and facilitating play. Everything was much easier and we started reconnecting when we slowed everything down and I took the time to refocus on the kids. We still have plenty of stuff to unpack, but everyone is less stressed out.

I have no idea if any of this is applicable to your situation, but I hope it helps.

Could you have a family meeting where you talk about how the tone of the house is getting too loud and could you all work on talking instead of yelling? After we moved, we had a meeting where everyone talked about what they wanted to change and keep the same in our family. I wrote everybody's thoughts on a dry erase board, (ds#1 wrote a number before eac hpoint and ds#2 circled the numbers) and then we refered to the board when things were getting chaotic.
post #7 of 14
Not everyone's going to agree with me, but I think 5 and definitely 3 (I'm guessing you're not concerned with the 1 year old, lol!) are too young to be expected to respect you most of the time. They probably have times when they are great and co-operative, but my guess is they're not consciously involved in respect. It's a pretty abstract concept for them. Your 3 year old isn't even fully aware of the spectrum of emotions and so "when you don't listen it hurts mamas feelings." What's that? Someone outside of me has feelings? I think at the ages your children are at expecting them to listen and respect you may be out of reach most of the time, but that doesn't mean they can't grow into those things, which I think they do just from having you model them.

The stuck like glue tactic does work very well and it allows you ample opportunity to listen to them and show them what respect is; exactly what you want them to learn.

I found when I was losing patience with my then 3 yr old DS I was 1) expecting too much of him and 2) not informing him of what he COULD do rather than what he COULDN'T. So instead of repeatedly telling him we don't bring clean laundry down off the dryer and jump in it, I should have asked him to help me with the laundry or offered to make a pile out of the dirty laundry as a place to jump. I was so frustrated with his continuous inability to "get this" (he was pulling laundry down several times a day each day), despite how many times I explained it, I checked in with our GP to see if there was a problem. And he said yes, that someone was displaying an inability to learn, and it wasn't DS. I was pretty ticked to start with, but after DP and I spent a couple of days talking through why that made us angry we looked at our expectations of our 3 yr old and whether they were too high for right then. And they were. 3 year olds have a tough time with impulse control and have their only job in life to learn about the people in their surroundings and how they relate to them. They're learning so many new skills, all of which help them manipulate their environments, both cognitively and physically that it's no wonder they don't remember being told not to touch the laundry five, ten, and twenty minutes ago. They're not thinking about how their actions inconvenience us.

With the example of the lights in the office, could you have taken yourself and the kids away from the ofice to do something else for a bit? They were telling you what they were going to do...could you have turned it into a bit of a game and then gone back to work? Something like "If you do that, I'm going to have to chase you, catch you and eat you up" and then chased them, caught them, and scooped them up and then told them how fun that was, but now mama has something she has to do in the office for a few minutes? My guess is their doing something you asked them not to as a way of checking in and getting your attention for a bit. Can you change perspective and see it, instead of as something annoying or defiant, as something sweet and playful and a chance to give some love. It's corny, but I know the times like that, when my DS is being a bit cheeky, that he's letting me know how much he still needs me and it sometimes makes me sad thinking there will be a day when he doesn't check in like that. That right now it's easy to turn a moment like that into a positive but there might come a time when it isn't and finding an easy opportunity to grab him up may be harder (apart from the fact he'll get too big for me to lift up, lol!)

This might not be helpful at all to you, but as my son gets further away from 3 (he's 4 1/2) I realize there was so much I could have just let go of; that he is turning into the most delightful and fun and thoughtful boy and it's all been a matter of time and growth. And once I re-adjusted my expectations and changed my mantra to "he's only acting 3" we started having so much more fun and I started really seeing just how much he was learning and exploring, despite me and my frustrations.

I think so much of toddler and pre-schoolhood is us learning to let go of control a bit so they can learn. It's so much easier said than done in a society that expects adult behaviour from small children and rewards parents for having quiet and obedient and very age-unappropriately behaved small ones.

Take care of yourself and make sure you get time to relax, because that certainly helps.
post #8 of 14
This book, "How to Behave so Your Children Will Too", has been very useful to me. It might be useful to you. If you buy it through Amazon's used book sellers, it can be very inexpensive. Regardless of which approaches you use, I wish you the very best and appreciate your recognition of the need to establish authority and control in your household.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...603531-4633435
post #9 of 14
Thread Starter 
Thank you mamas for your input!!!
post #10 of 14
i'm nak so sorry for typos
i didn't read all of the responses so maybe someone's already said this, but i remember reading somewhere that if you say things like "you hurt mommy's feelings", you're basically *giving* them power. you're saying to them "you can manipulate my feelings by your behaviors"...i mean, it's true, but saying to them that way can encourage them to do more stuff just to exert their power that you've told them you have, kwim? my DS is only 2 so i have no real experience with that kind of thing (his misbehaviors are totally different)

that being said, i have no actual advice. LOL i just read that somewhere and thought i'd pass it on. good luck!!!!!

and go buy some duct tape just in case. LMAO!! j/k!!
post #11 of 14

aw mama... i am right there with you...

you sound just like me, on a GOOD day.

i've been reading this article... and it seems so simple, but it's really helping me a LOT.

http://www.nopunish.net/PWP.pdf

i also want to get parenting cards, for those moments where i feel like i'm going to implode... (rather than slaughter the cat, pummel my husband, and sell my children into slavery!)

http://www.naturalchild.com/parenting_cards/
post #12 of 14
Do not say "please." Respecting you is not the same thing as doing you a favor. It is not authoritarian to expect the people around you to treat you with respect.

Do not try to appeal to their mercy by talking about your feelings. The people you live and work with should be expected to respect your needs whether they care about your feelings or not.

Your children are still very young. Do not expect them to obey without some physical action on your part. Stand up, go to them, and help them follow through with your directions. "Do not turn of the light. I am working in here." Stand up -- pyscially guide them away from the light switch. Mean what you say, and don't leave room for them to do otherwise. You can do this gently and firmly at the same time. If you are consistant -- they will learn not to mess around in these situations.

Take time to be playful so that they learn to channel playfullness appropriately.
post #13 of 14
I agree with MamaDuck. At those ages you need to be physically guiding them (not just verbally from across the room) and you need to be super-consistent. If they keep turning the light off, get up and go to them and say "The light needs to be on right now so I can get this work done" while guiding their hands away from the lightswitch. Then see if you can find something for them to do alongside you or in the same room. They might be feeling left out.

I have a friend who is the most inconsistent mother imaginable (well, almost) and her kids who are the same ages as yours WALK ALL OVER HER. They also have nasty attitudes since they know they can order their mom around and she doesn't follow through on what she says. It's really a shame.
post #14 of 14
I don't know about three year olds yet, but we have trained several puppies for a guide dog school and you might find this helpful for the dog. For the puppy you might try some puppy obedience classes, if you live near a petsmart or petco they offer them at nice prices, one will let you pay a flat fee and have classes for your dogs whole life. Also when he is biting either hold his mouth closed and say no firmly then let go of him and move away or say no and move away. It is important to teach the puppy young not to bite because his playful puppy bites will turn into big dog painful bites. Also if he gets too excited and is going to start biting soon stop playing with him so it doesn't get to that point.
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