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Loved my intrathecal! No natural childbirth for me EVER again!

post #1 of 225
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After delivering my second child on February 13th in the hospital with an intrathecal that took away all the pain, I will never, ever have a natural childbirth again.

My first child was born at home, a waterbirth with two midwives and a doula. I was in excruciating pain the whole time, screaming, wanting to die, the midwives and doula barely able to do anything to help me other than say, "Your doing a GREAT job! Your body is designed to do this! Breathe! Relax!"

YEAH, RIGHT!!!!

I feel that I got duped by the natural childbirth community in my area. They all said I could do a homebirth and it would be fine and they would help me handle the pain.

NO WAY! The $2600 I pain them was money down the drain.

I am definitely one of those women who has horrible childbirth pains, no two ways about it. I should not have even been trying to have a natural childbirth at home for the first baby! I could have tried in the hospital and had the intrathecal available to me if needed.

I learned my lesson.

My OB was fabulous and the nurses were great.

My new doula (NOT the one at the first birth) was great - very open to whatever I needed. My doula had never witnessed an intrathecal before. She said I was the worst case she ever dealt with as far as pain. I did have some horrible birth pains for 15 minutes in the hospital right before the intrathecal was administered. I was climbing the walls.

After the intrathecal, I couldn't feel anything for pushing, but my OB guided me through. I could see the delivery in a mirror and my husband and I talked in between contractions. It was a beautiful birth with us happily watching our daughter being born. I cried that my first child's natural birth had to be so violent.

My doula was very happy for me that the intrathecal worked so well. She said she learned a lot with me and seeing how much meds helped me really altered her thinking about natural childbirth as the only way.

So, just had to post this.

I still like a lot of what is there for me in the natural family living community, but PLEASE do tell women that childbirth can hurt like hell and some women can't take it. All the positive vibes in the world can't change that for some women.
post #2 of 225
I'm sorry you had such a traumatic first birth, and am glad this was a better experience for you.
post #3 of 225
What is an intrathecal?
post #4 of 225
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Originally Posted by mamasaurus
PLEASE do tell women that childbirth can hurt like hell and some women can't take it.
I'm curious what you mean by this. Please define "can't take it". What happens if a woman "can't take it"? Thanks.
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just when the don't feed the troll icon dissapears.....
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Originally Posted by mamasaurus
I feel that I got duped by the natural childbirth community in my area. They all said I could do a homebirth and it would be fine and they would help me handle the pain.

NO WAY! The $2600 I pain them was money down the drain.
duped, eh? you did it. you survived to have another pregnancy. the $2600 dollars got you your first baby, so i hardly consider it money down the drain.

i don't have a problem with people choosing pain relief if they need it, but this seems like an odd place to be gleeful about it. do you know what i mean? i'm really not trying to be nasty.

the knowledge that childbirth can hurt like hell is already
part of the american psyche. you did have the option at any time during your homebirth to transport to a hospital for medication. blaming it on the "natural childbirth community" just makes it sound like a conspiracy.
post #9 of 225
So sorry that natural childbirth did not work out for you.



But it does for some of us.... please don't trash our choices, either.
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just when the don't feed the troll icon dissapears.....
If you want to find out if someone is a troll, click on their username and select "read other posts by user." She doesn't sound like a troll. She sounds like she had a bad first birth.
post #11 of 225
just seems mighty out of place
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Originally Posted by huggerwocky
What is an intrathecal?
I didn't know either, so I did some research, I think it's the same thing as a walking epidural, which is better for the baby than a regular epidural.

http://www.childbirth.org/articles/walkingepi.html

I think??? or maybe it's something else, I couldn't find much on it...
post #13 of 225
If she couldn't feel to push then it doesn't sound like a walking epi to me.

It does seem like a strange thing to post at a place like MDC. I think we all know that childbirth is painful and I personally hate posts that say something like "I have really painful contractions" because it seems to imply that mine aren't or that those of us who manage to come through natural childbirth feeling positively about it didn't have difficult labors or experience pain.
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As a person who has walked both sides of the fence can we discuss the fact that you might have potentially harmed your newborn child with the narcotics used in these epidurals? I see a WORLD of difference between my homeborn undrugged UC baby than my induction epidural baby...

This IS a bizarre place to post about this .. its pretty simple your a woman you have a uterus you got pregnant.. you CAN do it.

I am convinced pain is caused by attendants anyhow.. I had next to none my last birth.
post #15 of 225
It doesnt really seem that she is trashing anyones choices... I think she is only sharing her experiences.

I had a homebirth 6 months ago, had a horrible time pushing, got very little support and afterwards was very disappointed. I didnt even want to think about the birth for at least a week. Most people here DO make it sound like homebirth/nat. childbirth is always an amazing experience, which is just not always the case.

She found something that worked for her and should be congratulated. Everyone deserves to be proud of their birthing experiences, not just homebirthers...
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Originally Posted by Marsupialmuma
I see a WORLD of difference between my homeborn undrugged UC baby than my induction epidural baby...
Can you elaborate on the differences? Maybe start a spin-off thread? I have had one epidural birth, one homebirth and there were some differences for me too. I'm wondering if ours coincide.

I loved my homebirth and found it a positive, empowering experience, but I have to admit my first thought when it was over was this euphoric, "Thank God I never have to do this again!" After some time had passed, I decided I could handle it again, but I'm not feeling any desire to have a third pregnancy and birth experience. OK, sometimes I miss being pregnant, but I'm pretty happy we are done. Although sometimes a small voice in me thinks, "maybe I could have a waterbirth and no stitches this time. Let's give it a shot!" :LOL
post #17 of 225
I am sorry you had a bad first birth, and I'm very happy that your second was better.

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I feel that I got duped by the natural childbirth community in my area. They all said I could do a homebirth and it would be fine and they would help me handle the pain.
But it irritates me that you seem to be blaming this bad experience on 'the natural childbirth community'. Yes, some women have incredibly painful labors and there's no way to know in advance. And sometimes no amount of labor support can make it any better. But YOU chose to birth at home, and at any time YOU could have said enough's enough, get me to a hospital. I don't understand how you 'got duped'. I hope this doesn't sound mean. It just sounds like you're trying to blame someone and that bothers me. (Unless there are reasons you didn't mention as to why you got duped, but I am left to assume there aren't) It really bothers me when people don't take responsibility for their choices.

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PLEASE do tell women that childbirth can hurt like hell and some women can't take it. All the positive vibes in the world can't change that for some women.
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You're right, some women can't take it and I'm glad that medication is available for those that need it. But I agree with AmandaBL that this just doesn't seem like the place to post this.

I am very happy that you were able to enjoy your 2nd birth, and congratulations on your new baby.
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We all come to birth with different perspectives, expectations, emotions, etc. What one woman sees as suffering another may see as challenge- no one should force themselves to do something they view as masochistic or tormenting- I could see how someone would feel just as violated at home as in the hospital if they perceive the pain as unnecessary torment.

I personally just had my baby 2 weeks ago at home and I can honestly say that I was in PAIN- water broke, then intense contractions starting coming only 1-2 minutes apart lasting 50 seconds each. This lasted for 17 hours- my cervix never dilated fully (due to scar tissue) so I had to push the baby past it- I thought I was going to die- this wasn't the peaceful, mellow homebirth I had envisioned at all.

BUT- for me I would still never have a baby in the hospital. I felt so empowered by the experience and so in love with my fiance and so grateful to my midwives for supporting me so well- fixing the birth pool for me, putting cold cloths on my face, reminding me of the strength I had inside me that I had forgotten after feeling so weak from 18 hours of intense labor.

Yes there were points in the labor where I thought "I will never do this again! This is nuts!" There were points where I felt like I had put too much faith in myself and I really wasn't strong enough to do this. There was even a point where my midwife suggested we go to the hospital and get some meds because I had such an intense labor.

BUT- I'm so glad I did it at home! The memory of the pain faded into oblivion as I cuddled with my son in my own bed surrounded by people who cared for me and I didn't have to worry about taking my son for "exams" or vaccinating him, etc. I felt so empowered by what I had just accomplished- like I had climbed a mountain even though my leg was broken or something. My fiance was in awe of what I had just done. My baby was alert and I knew he had never had any drugs in his system. I didn't tear and 2 weeks later feel amazing!

Even though the pain was excruciating I am so glad that I was at home and didn't have access to pain medication I wanted so badly at the time- because now I know how strong I really am- I learned so much- and I would never trade that experience for anything. Had I been in the hospital I would have had the epidural and I wouldn't know if I could have done it on my own or not.

This is MY experience- I think this represents the wide range of experiences women can have regarding birth and our perceptions of our own birth experiences.

There is nothing wrong with wanting or having pain medication- no one should feel "better" or worse than someone else for having or not having it- but for me no amount of pain would make me trade homebirth for hospital birth.
post #20 of 225
Well I had natural childbirth - 47 hour labour, planned homebirth transferred to hospital, but didn't end up with any interventions. And I don't know if it hurt as much as the OP's, but I can tell you it HURT LIKE . Unimaginable pain, I didn't think I could endure or survive it.

And I would do it again in a heartbeat. Just the sheer exhilaration of giving birth, how incredibly high I was, higher than I've ever been in my life, and meeting my little girl in that state was absolute bliss. Natural childbirth has had a tremendously positive impact on how I view the strength of my spirit and the miraculous power of my body. I wouldn't trade the experience for anything, and I encourage other women to at least learn about and consider it, becuase it is the most out of this world primal crazy raw woman mama power I have ever felt.

AND it's not for everybody. If that's not your scene by all means get an epidural or whatever you need. Women are absolutely entitled to whatever it is we need during childbirth. This is what taking back birth is all about.

I wanted to add that I too was pretty cheesed off at Ina May Gaskin and her "orgasmic birth," "if it hurts you're just not opening to it" vibe. I believed the things she wrote, and was convinced I would be experiencing orgasmic ecstasy while in labour. Thanks a lot Ina May. For me I really would have preferred to be appropriately warned about the amount of pain that is possible.
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