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post #21 of 52
I saw the posts on penn and tellers site from users here and they are great
post #22 of 52
I just got finished reading the whole thread at
http://www.network54.com/Forum/thre...5&lp=1112406984
I must respond to the comment that activists against circumcision are using unfounded arguements, specifically concerning sexual damage.
I think I read a statement that Marilyn Milos wrote about this. Can anyone help me find it?
I don't have TV but would love to see this episode. Hope I can get it.
post #23 of 52
Ann:

The poster you are talking about, Jake WW, is Jake Waskett. He is a gay English man who is a circumcision fetishist. He is a member and leader in all of the circumcision fetish groups such as The Acorn Society, The Gilgal Society and Circlist. He is very well versed and well known on most of the circumcision debate boards for the troubles he causes. The best case scenario is that that will be his only post there. The worst case is that he tries to destroy the thread. If you have to ask for help, you are going to a gunfight with a water pistol. The only way to defeat him is to verbally tie him in knots.




Frank
post #24 of 52
Jake?



*sigh*

S'funny how deeply in denial he is. Also interesting that he persists in mentioning the Bleustein study which didn't test the foreskin!!!

I haven't posted on the Penn & Teller thread, but if anyone feels like taking him on, PM me - I'll send you what you need.

Really, it doesn't get much simpler than this though:


LOST NERVES = LOST SENSATION


(which he's unable to refute)



Of all the circum-fetishists I know of, he is possibly the most obsessed with convincing parents to cut on their babies. Sick sick sick..... :Puke
post #25 of 52
That is awesome!
post #26 of 52
Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Kira~
Jake?
Also interesting that he persists in mentioning the Bleustein study which didn't test the foreskin!!!
Hmmm

Anyway, looks like someone else stepped up to the plate to respond to Jake.

I'm not up for a long debate here. I'll stick to talking to pregnant friends for a while.

I brought up my thoughts about keeping boys intact with a gay man I know well and the subject was dropped faster than a hot potato. What's with that? I guess I'll have to ask him.
post #27 of 52
Looks like Circ is going to be on on April 25th. (Double check...that's from memory.) There is a blurb in the newest TV Guide re: the episode, too.
post #28 of 52
who can I convince to tape this for me? I have a pg client who may actually watch this but not sure I can wait till it comes out on DVD.
post #29 of 52
I can not wait to see this!
post #30 of 52
I'll Tivo it & if I can figure out how to copy it I'll gladly send it out for cost to anyone who "needs" it. I absolutley love this show, even though I've disagreed with them on occasion. It's so funny. I just can't wait!!!!! Can't wait!!!!!
post #31 of 52
We don't get Showtime, so I would gladly pay for a copy! It's very easy to download from TiVo to VCR.
post #32 of 52

What TV Guide has to say...

Hits & Misses, p 45 current issue

Quote:
Bull may not end circumcision, but it's a great argument against full-frontal nudity. MY SCORE: 7
post #33 of 52
I don't have the Tivo brand - it's the one from my cable company, but I saw an option "copy to VCR" so it can't be that hard. DH will figure it out this week. He says it's easy, but he said that about fixing the toilet that is now shattered, so we'll see. : How about anyone who wants one send me a tape and $3.85 postage and I'll get you one. That's how I do CD's and it seems to work well.
post #34 of 52
If someone is uber computer Saavy, they could a: Tivo it, then figure out how to xfer it to their PC *through TV card if one has it* then convert it to AVI so I can DL it from you off of Soulseek.

Ah heck, I do think itll be out on Soulseek or Kazaa the day after it comes on TV

Ah heck, I REALLY should put the birds to bed and go snooze off this allergen induced sinus headache...*stoopid fragrances...should be outlawed I swear..
post #35 of 52
It's going to be playing a couple of other dates.........April 29th and May 6th, I think. Maybe we'll get Showtime just so I can watch it!

You can watch a 1 minute video preview here:

http://www.sho.com/site/ptbs/topics.do


From this clip, it seems that P & T are huge intactivists....... they are listening to a female doctor talk about the "soft straps" on the circumstrant, and how "with the Gomco clamp there is zero chance of hurting the baby's penis......" (I just have to point out the irony of this statement)

etc. and P & T are in the background saying, "I guess you don't have to secure the baby's arms because he can't punch yet," and "I guess it's not a human rights violation because the straps are soft! Where's Amnesty International!"
post #36 of 52
I made the mistake of clicking on that video link - I heard "When I do circumcisions, the baby usually tolerates it really...." and I shut it. It hurts me to watch anyone even TALK about it. Did I miss anything interesting? I LOVED the little blurb andout men feeling regret & covering their privates.
post #37 of 52
I obviously stoped reading the above post when I clicked on the link sorry for the stupid question.
post #38 of 52
Thread Starter 
Oh, that ROCKED!

I don't agree with them on everything. But they will be my permanent heroes and I can forgive anything else if they kick the out of RIC on prime time Showtime
post #39 of 52
That link won't work for me because I'm not in the U.S.! How unfair

Tara
post #40 of 52

Getting Desperate

Anyone out there who can tape the show for me?

I have asked everyone I know and they don't get showtime.
Please pm me.
Like someone else said...... I'd pay.

Thanks
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