Originally Posted by Mommiska
You know, there are plenty of people who believe that abortion is morally wrong and who would never chose to have an abortion themselves (I am one of those people).
But who also recognise that there are is a HUGE grey area in the abortion debate, and who realise that it is not as simple as making abortion illegal and all abortion will end.
And, unfortunately, Catholic teaching (and particularly political activism, which is one of the main things posters here have issue with - and I have the same issues, for the record, with fundamentalist Christians working for the same goals) on things like abortion, contraception, condoms, etc, contribute to the problem, rather than working towards finding a solution.
To the first point.... That doesn't make any sense to me at all... It's like saying "well, I don't believe that people should shoot their neighbors because I think that's murder....but if Joe down the street wants to kill his neighbor, well, that's his choice because maybe that neighbor did something really bad to him. If the Catholic church believes abortion is murder, there *is* no grey area...there *is* no area where the Catholic church will say "yeah, it's murder, but for you, it's ok". That would be hypocracy...
And to the 2nd issue...the Catholic church doesn't teach *just* that condoms are not acceptable. They also teach that sex is not something that you have with everyone all the time any time...it's to be saved for the sanctity of marriage and people should have the self control to not act as animals (and if they do, to accept the consequences for those actons). The Catholic church DOESN'T say "no condoms for you, but feel free to go have sex with 5 different people this week". To the Catholic church, sex is a sacred act...not just something to be done without thinking, like eating potato chips.
Besides, saying that the no-condom thing contributes to the AIDS crisis is ridiculous... Condoms do not prevent all STD's and in fact, AIDS *can* be transmitted despite the use of condoms. The virus itself is small enough to fit through the natural holes in latex (and do you honestly believe that 3rd world countries will be able to afford to give every person enough good quality condoms so that every sexual act involves a brand new, unused or unshared, high quality condom? I doubt it.). Condoms are merely a "safety net" anyhow...there are very few people that would have sex with someone they *knew* was HIV positive just because they were wearing a condom. There are very few people that would chance the virus getting through or the condom breaking....
So, it's not that the Catholic church is the one responsible for the AIDS crisis... Multiple partners, careless sex, and not knowing the background of your partner also contributes... At what point is it the INDIVIDUAL'S responsibility to accept the consequences of their actions and to do things THEMSELVES to stop the spread of AIDS? Why blame the whole thing on the Catholic church...as far as I know, people are, and always have been, responsible for their own actions, including sex. The Catholic church isn't forcing people to have sex in situations where they know HIV can be transmitted.
In addition...in many cases, those having sex which require condoms are NOT married (this is not including married couples who use condoms). If they are already having sex outside of marriage (against Catholic teachings) then what the heck does it matter what the Catholic church says about condoms...they are already going against church teachings once, so most likely they are not going to care much what the church has to say about the condoms. But blaming the Catholic church instead of the individual is always an easier target...all actions have consequences.
And it's easy to blame the Catholic church for the spread of AIDS...but where are the groups raising money to send billions of free high quality condoms to Africa, pass them out for *every single* sexual encounter, and teach proper usage *AND* disposal (because a used condom from an HIV infected person that isn't properly disposed of can still spread the virus). It's easy to blame people who are taking an action, but why not blame those who are NOT acting and are merely sitting back and blaming?