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post #1 of 13
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There is an interesting (very long) front page article in today's Los Angeles Times about what looks like a "natural living" family that lived in the mountains and had a dramatic rescue. (I cross posted this on the Vax board because there was a small mention of them not immunizing.)

A few months ago, the creek flooded and they needed to be rescued. The mom had a 8 week old. Apparently, the firemen accused the father of interfering with the rescue, causing mom, a fireman and baby to fall in the rushing water. (They were all rescued.) It looked like a nice story, but then the authorities got involved...

Turbulent Times for a Family
The Hendersons liked their isolated life in the woods, but a dramatic river rescue cast a cloud on their unconventional approach to parenting.


http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...ck=1&cset=true

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"They're a very interesting couple. Let's put it that way," he said. Erica gave birth to Abigail Rose Henderson on May 6, 2003, at home. William Pierce Henderson was also born at home on Nov. 10, 2004. A little more than a week later, Jeffrey did something that caused more concern from the neighbors and Ranger Dumpis: he circumcised the boy at the cabin. Jeffrey said it had been his family's practice for generations that the father circumcise his newborn son.



Dumpis said he called the county Department of Children and Family Services because he thought the cabin did not seem sterile. "The cabin itself didn't have running water," Dumpis said. "People will live in just about anything."

The department investigated but did not take action against the parents.
Anyway, after the rescue, the CPS took the kids away and the county accused them of failing to protect their kids.

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Their main fault was "failure to protect" their children.

The Hendersons "interfered" with the rescue efforts, "resulting in the child William and the children's mother being swept away by the tremendous force of the water current," the county alleged.

William had turned blue from the cold and had a body temperature of 89.2 degrees, the document stated. Authorities also criticized Jeffrey Henderson for refusing to evacuate the cabin with his daughter.

The charges went beyond the rescue. The court documents accused the parents of "medical neglect" for not immunizing the children. The county was also concerned about the children's infrequent visits to a doctor and the circumcision.
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Jeffrey was particularly angry at the county's criticism of the circumcision, a procedure he said fathers in his family have long done on their own. He and Erica said they consulted online medical journals and made sure to swab tools and the baby with rubbing alcohol.


The judge said there was no crime committed and ordered that the kids be returned. But they were supposed to move out of the mountains, to a place where CPS could visit them at any time.

The family disappeared in March.
post #2 of 13
Holy cow.

Words fail me, on so many levels.
post #3 of 13
I don't know if this is the same one I read about previously or not but this judge set a very dangerous precedence. This will allow anyone to circumcise their child at home much the same way many FGMs are done in Africa. It is odd though since Todd Bertrang was arrested, tried and sentenced for the same thing. The only difference is that he was not the child's father and he had more experience than this man.

Now, for anyone to be tried and convicted in this jurisdiction, the prosecutor has to get this judge's decision struck down first.

California has a law that prohibits anyone but licensed medical providers to do surgical procedures. They do give an exemption to mohels. I wonder why this man was not charged under that law the same as Todd Bertrang was charged and convicted?




Frank
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post #5 of 13
He's angry b/c he wants to be left alone to sexually assault and mutilate his kids beacuse his father did?!?!

Sick #$%&!!!!
post #6 of 13
If he did not chop of the penis and used sterile equipments, according to current law he probably didn't do anything wrong to a *baby*. Because baby doesn't feel pain when his foreskin is ripped and torn and crushed.

This would be allowed to be done for religious reasons at home to a baby in USA, so why not for cultural reasons?

You can do this to a *baby*, it might be different if the child was older but babies aren't real human beings ... at least baby boys.
post #7 of 13
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Originally Posted by kxsiven
If he did not chop of the penis and used sterile equipments, according to current law he probably didn't do anything wrong to a *baby*. Because baby doesn't feel pain when his foreskin is ripped and torn and crushed.

This would be allowed to be done for religious reasons at home to a baby in USA, so why not for cultural reasons?

You can do this to a *baby*, it might be different if the child was older but babies aren't real human beings ... at least baby boys.
Please tell me that you *said* all of that with a sarcastic tone. :
post #8 of 13
She's an intactivist extraordinaire - I'm sure she was being sarcastic!

Sadly many Americans agree with her...
post #9 of 13
what a psycho of a father!
post #10 of 13
i was just looking back and saw this. you know the saddest thing? is that it was lumped with home birth and not vaccinating....
post #11 of 13
: that is nutz
post #12 of 13
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Originally Posted by acp
i was just looking back and saw this. you know the saddest thing? is that it was lumped with home birth and not vaccinating....
yup. i just love the company out here on this ledge. (does the dad not sound pushy, or what? interfering with the rescue... and ok, i'm gonna say it, so everyone who plays the 'it's the dad's decision' card, take heed- the first thought in my head was 'why didn't that baby's mother protect him from this idiot?' may not be fair, but there you go. it's human nature to expect mommy to fight to keep her baby safe. what a pair of maroons. and you know, i LIKE hermits, i've lived alone on a mountaintop & even known a couple. ain't got nothin' to do with it.)

suse
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As crazy as the father is why are we only bashing him?? The mom has a responciblity to protect her children.
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