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post #21 of 31
liseaux, I am disappointed to hear of the uncertainty of whether your efforts to contact her got through or not. I'm also disappointed to hear more recent information regarding her opinion. I came here to post that I started an inquiry about how to reach her. Yikes. Will this just be beating my head against a wall?
post #22 of 31
None the less, I did get a very quick response and an address to send something to which will then be forwarded to her. So I do plan on writing something to her. You can bet that I will be asking for input. I expect that whatever I write will be read before deciding to forward it to her or not. But it is a start - yes?
post #23 of 31
Go for it Hummingbear! Good luck!
post #24 of 31
I thought I remember reading Anne LaMott years ago, I think it was in this book, that her final deciding factor was a friend with a four year old who told her 'I can barely manage to get him to wash his hands properly, can you imagine if I had to teach him to wash his penis too?' I thought at the time what an incredibly ignorant reason to circ. your kid and it has stuck with me until today.
post #25 of 31
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We all know how much boys hate to handle their penises, ever!
post #26 of 31
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Originally Posted by Mom2six
I thought I remember reading Anne LaMott years ago, I think it was in this book, that her final deciding factor was a friend with a four year old who told her 'I can barely manage to get him to wash his hands properly, can you imagine if I had to teach him to wash his penis too?' I thought at the time what an incredibly ignorant reason to circ. your kid and it has stuck with me until today.
It stuck with me too! I actually read Operating Instructions when my son was about 6 months old (he is 11 now)--and was horrified by all those jokes and dubious reasons she had for circ'ing her son. My son was born in 1994, and we made the choice to leave him intact. I remember trying to convince my friend to do the same, and then she read Lamott's book and decided to go ahead and circ her newborn because of what she read. It was not just the medical stuff Lamott put out there--it was like she made the whole washing issue sound so difficult and the "look" of the uncircumcised penis to be gross.

The thing is--she lives in the S.F. Bay area like I do--where leaving your son intact is not such an oddity--even in the year she had her son. I was very surprised by her attitude about the whole thing.

I do think she is a talented author--but it was so disheartening to read what she wrote about circs back then. Many of my friends who knew we did not circ our son and who were having babies at the time were reading the book too--and I remember feeling like they must have felt very vindicated in her opinions about the issue.
post #27 of 31
Oh, and as far as her revising the book--I think it would be very hard for her to do. Practically the whole chaper is about that issue--how he got circumcised--the reasons why, his reaction to it, her reasons why--etc...it is not just a little offhand comment.
post #28 of 31
'I can barely manage to get him to wash his hands properly, can you imagine if I had to teach him to wash his penis too?'

Eeeeeeeewwww, I've seen these kind of claims before and it makes me think...don't these parents teach personal hygiene at all if they think this way - circumcised male doesn't need personal hygiene???
post #29 of 31
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Originally Posted by LisainCalifornia
It stuck with me too! I actually read Operating Instructions when my son was about 6 months old (he is 11 now)--and was horrified by all those jokes and dubious reasons she had for circ'ing her son. My son was born in 1994, and we made the choice to leave him intact.

The thing is--she lives in the S.F. Bay area like I do--where leaving your son intact is not such an oddity--even in the year she had her son. I was very surprised by her attitude about the whole thing.
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I remember being surprised that she circ'd since in many ways she seemed to be similar to me and a few other moms who went for the intact option. I seem to recall that whe said something about a few of her friends thinking infant circ was cruel, which is more in line with my thinking and some acquaintances here in the Bay Area.

Still, while my sons have some intact friends, I'm surprised (when the subject does come up) at how frequently parents choose circ around here, given that we are one of the more progressive areas in the country.
post #30 of 31
quirky, i had my dd in '86. we had mothering mag around then, too. even before the internet the info was out there if you were determined to educate yourself AND had a modicum of common sense (such as being able to see the parallels between the reasons given for both m & f gm.)

not bashing anybody who didn't 'get it' till recently, that's for them & anyone they had circ'd to deal with- horror enough without any comments from me- but the idea that there was some kind of grace period where you didn't have to suspend your powers of observation (e.g., 'babies don't feel pain' ) is not true.

i particularly dislike the women who say it looks animalistic, they like the appearance of the circ, etc. it's their right to laugh mockingly, and my right to loathe their opinionated halfwits with every fiber of my being. that argument makes my flesh crawl. i don't even approve of docking dog's ears 'for appearance'; this is considered acceptable?

'women who think' indeed. suse
post #31 of 31
"Women who think dumb cr@p" perhaps.

BTW, does anyone here really wash their intact son's penis everyday? Mine's 8 and a couple of baths a week do it here...
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