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post #21 of 50
Yep, I go to a university...though people are quick to point out "it's a state U; you couldn't have gotten into anything else!" Probably true...but I'm just not convinced it matters. It's the piece of paper I want; not the name...

I look forward to learning about other kinds of history, on my own terms!
post #22 of 50
I came to California in 7th grade and went to a affluent "ivy league" school town's public school. I was shocked by the low quality of the teaching compred to my east coast public school. Yes,I'm a snob about it. Thank god I went back east after one year, and I was way behind my classmates. So I'm not sure who is being referred to in Ca who isn't "qualified to teach" ( just that concept bothers me), however after living back in Ca for the last 20 yrs. I can surely say the lack of quality (even basic) ed. here has a horrible ripple effect on our citizens. Look at who is our govenor.
Many in CA don't care about history either and the rich white men running the show love that you can't remember (or understand) what happened last weeek. One day when you wake up in your totalitarian country (( or did that already happen )) you won't Know how you got there either!
And about Iraq- Here's one reason you should care: When we first invaded Baghdad civilians were fleeing BUSH'S INVASION OF A SOVREIGN NATION (LAST GUY WHO DID THAT WAS NAMED ADOLF HITLER, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHO HE WAS EITHER DO WE? AND WHAT ABOUT THE CONGRESSIONAL GIVE- AWAY OF THEIR SOLE CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY TO DECLARE WAR , BUT i DIGRESS)and a truck with an extended family of 17 was hit by our tank fire across the lap of a NINE MONTH'S PREGNANT MOTHER WHO HELD HER TWO YOUNG KIDS ( 2 AND 5YRS.). SHE WATCHED BOTH THEIR HEADS BE BLOWN OFF. THEN HAD TO GO ON AND GIVE BIRTH. So all you ap moms can go to sleep cuddling your own knowing there are too less baby "terrorists ' in the world. And when your kids are the beneficiary of the hate we have sown you will be left bewildered, and find comfort in the thought that they must "hate our freedom"
Ignorance is bliss isn't it?
Kollyfornia Uber Alles!
post #23 of 50
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Originally Posted by greensmile
I came to California in 7th grade and went to a affluent "ivy league" school town's public school. I was shocked by the low quality of the teaching compred to my east coast public school. Yes,I'm a snob about it. Thank god I went back east after one year, and I was way behind my classmates. So I'm not sure who is being referred to in Ca who isn't "qualified to teach" ( just that concept bothers me), however after living back in Ca for the last 20 yrs. I can surely say the lack of quality (even basic) ed. here has a horrible ripple effect on our citizens. Look at who is our govenor.
Many in CA don't care about history either and the rich white men running the show love that you can't remember (or understand) what happened last weeek. One day when you wake up in your totalitarian country (( or did that already happen )) you won't Know how you got there either!
And about Iraq- Here's one reason you should care: When we first invaded Baghdad civilians were fleeing BUSH'S INVASION OF A SOVREIGN NATION (LAST GUY WHO DID THAT WAS NAMED ADOLF HITLER, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHO HE WAS EITHER DO WE? AND WHAT ABOUT THE CONGRESSIONAL GIVE- AWAY OF THEIR SOLE CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY TO DECLARE WAR , BUT i DIGRESS)and a truck with an extended family of 17 was hit by our tank fire across the lap of a NINE MONTH'S PREGNANT MOTHER WHO HELD HER TWO YOUNG KIDS ( 2 AND 5YRS.). SHE WATCHED BOTH THEIR HEADS BE BLOWN OFF. THEN HAD TO GO ON AND GIVE BIRTH. So all you ap moms can go to sleep cuddling your own knowing there are too less baby "terrorists ' in the world. And when your kids are the beneficiary of the hate we have sown you will be left bewildered, and find comfort in the thought that they must "hate our freedom"
Ignorance is bliss isn't it?
Kollyfornia Uber Alles!

Wow. :
post #24 of 50
I guess I don't understand your intent w/that story?

Is it just the people in Ca who don't care about history? Are all high schools teaching in such black and white lines about Iraq? Ours sure aren't. Ours actually read the paper (sure it's a rag ) and use the internet and debate the different politics and perspectives.

I think it doesn't matter if a school is ivy league or Title 1...it's still a family choice.
post #25 of 50
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Originally Posted by greensmile
So all you ap moms can go to sleep cuddling your own knowing there are too less baby "terrorists ' in the world. And when your kids are the beneficiary of the hate we have sown you will be left bewildered, and find comfort in the thought that they must "hate our freedom"
Ignorance is bliss isn't it?
Kollyfornia Uber Alles!

1. Using all capitols is considered yelling.
2. You might wish to visit our lovely news and current events forum.
post #26 of 50
Sorry to be "loud", but well behaved women rarely make history, or study it either apparently.I do feel there is a direct connection between how we educate our children and the future of our country and world. my desire for my kids to get accurate and in depth information of the great, not-so-great and in-between actions of our elected officials, in our name, as well as an ability to analyze those events in context, was a major reason we chose to hs. I have five boys and it does make me mad that they are looked at as cannon foder for emperor george's (i'm whispering so he doesn't hear with his post- carnivore ears) world domination scheme. I do feel Americas' attention needs to be gotten, our apathy is fueling world hate.
Another reason we homeschool is to avoid the fragmentation so common in school of subjects. History is not separate from science or art or etc.. We try to weave the tapestry of human experience together for our kids so the can make sense of it. So your suggestion that I go to the news forum doesn't make any sense to me.
I am no newbie to this board or mothering either BTW. I fully realize I was "yelling", how else to get attention? ( I don't complain about all the bouncy smilies that distract my reading) And if you yell back I won't take it personally. I'll be invigorated to know debate still exists.
post #27 of 50
My post about why we should care about Iraq, in response to the statement by one member that they don't care about history, and separately that they do't know what is going on in Iraq was to show how there is a human cost to our failure to be active citizens. (one argument made by pro-mandatory public schoolers is that otherwise people will check out of particpating in our democracy, and will have less contact with other types of Americans) An active citizen understands the principles our country was founded on, our civic duties, our nation's history and appplies those to current events. If we don't care about history we get a situation, like today where we lose the right to get information ( the rule against photos of homecoming coffins is a minor example) which becomes a vicious cycle of less information, less caring about events, fewer rights, less democracy. Democracy is not a spectator sport. And history is our soldiers who died and were maimed yesterday.
post #28 of 50
But that's just it - I'm the one who decides what educational subjects I should care about, and I want my kids to decide that for themselves as well. People have also said that since I know nothing about chemistry, I don't understand the very building blocks of life, and that since I don't know higher maths, I don't know the one true international language. Oh well.

If any of you don't know how to bake bread, you are disconnected from the staff of life and food of the gods. Yet how many people worry about their children not wanting to bake bread, or think that they can't be a good homeschooler because they've never made bread?
post #29 of 50
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Originally Posted by greensmile
My post about why we should care about Iraq, in response to the statement by one member that they don't care about history, and separately that they do't know what is going on in Iraq was to show how there is a human cost to our failure to be active citizens. (one argument made by pro-mandatory public schoolers is that otherwise people will check out of particpating in our democracy, and will have less contact with other types of Americans) An active citizen understands the principles our country was founded on, our civic duties, our nation's history and appplies those to current events. If we don't care about history we get a situation, like today where we lose the right to get information ( the rule against photos of homecoming coffins is a minor example) which becomes a vicious cycle of less information, less caring about events, fewer rights, less democracy. Democracy is not a spectator sport. And history is our soldiers who died and were maimed yesterday.
I nust hate to see the homeschooling forum used as a platform for someone to rant about their political beliefs.
post #30 of 50
Firstly it is sad to see the word "hate" used to shame someone for expresssing their beliefs in a public forum. I enjoy reading other's opinions so I may come to understand the very heart felt reasons for them. I can have my mind opened to new realities and honor them even if I strongly disagree/ don't relate. Secondly homeschooling, like it or not is a very political act as are many of the ways AP families choose to live our lives. We need to understand the history of those who struggled and are still struggling to create and preserve our freedoms to raise our children as we see fit. Lastly I wonder what board response to me stating a whole area of learning, say reading, just didn't concern me . (( The reason Civil War history may be uninteresting to a board member may come from her misunderstanding, possibly from a poor history education that it is about dates. I assume she is not a person of African-American backround to so blithely dismiss it's relevence to her life.))
"If your not outraged, you must not be paying attention. "
post #31 of 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by greensmile
Firstly it is sad to see the word "hate" used to shame someone for expresssing their beliefs in a public forum. I enjoy reading other's opinions so I may come to understand the very heart felt reasons for them. I can have my mind opened to new realities and honor them even if I strongly disagree/ don't relate. Secondly homeschooling, like it or not is a very political act as are many of the ways AP families choose to live our lives. We need to understand the history of those who struggled and are still struggling to create and preserve our freedoms to raise our children as we see fit. Lastly I wonder what board response to me stating a whole area of learning, say reading, just didn't concern me . (( The reason Civil War history may be uninteresting to a board member may come from her misunderstanding, possibly from a poor history education that it is about dates. I assume she is not a person of African-American backround to so blithely dismiss it's relevence to her life.))
"If your not outraged, you must not be paying attention. "
You make a lot of assumptions.

And just because I am not outraged about the same things as you are, does NOT mean I am not paying attention.

Perhaps you should start a thread on the importance of studying history?
post #32 of 50
All my previous psts were in reference to Greaseball's statement " the reason I don't know anything about history is because I don't care." I don't assume you don't care about history but it seems you are offended by my attempt5 to show why history is relevent to everyone. And Btw what are you not outraged by : an illegal war were lots of innocent civilians are killed and maimed? our soldiers being placed in harms way under totally false pretexts from manipulated intelligence (remember WMDS?) Thje $ 250 billion of our tax dollars down the drain?
post #33 of 50
Why are you implying that I should be outraged? Can't I choose my own feelings about certain things? Can't my children do the same? I believe that is what will make me an effective homeschooler - not my insistence that certain things are important and merit outrage, but my acceptance of anyone else's opinion (or lack thereof).
post #34 of 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by greensmile
All my previous psts were in reference to Greaseball's statement " the reason I don't know anything about history is because I don't care." I don't assume you don't care about history but it seems you are offended by my attempt5 to show why history is relevent to everyone. And Btw what are you not outraged by : an illegal war were lots of innocent civilians are killed and maimed? our soldiers being placed in harms way under totally false pretexts from manipulated intelligence (remember WMDS?) Thje $ 250 billion of our tax dollars down the drain?

Well, you know what they say about ASSumptions...

And why does anyone here have to justify their beliefs or feelings to you?
Do you teach your children exactly what they must believe? Do you berate them if, after being presented with the facts, they don't come up with the exact same conclusions as you do?

What I am offended by is you coming to a peaceful board and using it as a platform by which to shove your personal opinions down everyone's throats. I am also offended by you attacking mother's on this board as being wrong or uneducated. Finally, when you cloak your message IN ALL CAPITOLS and inflamatory language, frankly, I don't even read it. I figure the message is not strong enough to stand on its own, so why should I waste my time trying to pull out the hype from the facts.
post #35 of 50
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Yep, I go to a university...though people are quick to point out "it's a state U; you couldn't have gotten into anything else!" Probably true...but I'm just not convinced it matters. It's the piece of paper I want; not the name...

Who the heck are you hanging out with Greaseball, that would criticize you that way? I wanna give them a piece of my mind!

Laura :
post #36 of 50
Thread Starter 
Choosing to teach my kids history is a wonderful part of homeschool. Choosing WHAT to teach , HOW to teach , WHEN to teach , WHY to teach. I'm with greaseball on history. I just don't care. I'd rather my kids know how to live off the land , love a neighbor , show affection and state what they believe without condeming others.

Please take your political topic to the debate forum. This thread was not created for that.
post #37 of 50
Just a reminder to keep posts to the topic of homeschooling. Posts regarding current events and news belong in that forum.
post #38 of 50
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Originally Posted by annettemarie
What I am offended by is you coming to a peaceful board and using it as a platform by which to shove your personal opinions down everyone's throats. I am also offended by you attacking mother's on this board as being wrong or uneducated. Finally, when you cloak your message IN ALL CAPITOLS and inflamatory language, frankly, I don't even read it. I figure the message is not strong enough to stand on its own, so why should I waste my time trying to pull out the hype from the facts.
Right on, AnnetteMarie! I agree completely.


Even if one agree's with the information that greensmile presented as well as the point she was trying to make (which I do) I agree that the presentation was completely inappropriate. This is NOT the forum for these kinds of statements and that is so not the way to engage in civilized discussion.
post #39 of 50
It would be much easier to read your writings if you made use of paragraphs.
post #40 of 50
My top-notch public school taught me about paragraphs.
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