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post #81 of 85
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It really does make me crazy.

I could very easily snap and go running through the mall with my shirt off, shouting, "BOOBIES MAKE MILK! BOOBIES MAKE MILK!"

Oh, sorry, getting off topic there. I can't think of a good way to go insane in public about cosleeping. When I think of one, though, I'll let you know!
:LOL :LOL :LOL

Once my mom made some comment about our family bed and some reference to changing our name to the Jacsksons (Michael). :

I would like to run through her next Garden Club meeting (topless of course) screaming "I am not a child molester!"
post #82 of 85
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I find it so odd that talking parenting is a topic that people consider off limits. Why shouldn't we be able to talk openly with our friends and family members about issues that are near and dear to our hearts? In particular, CIO or co-sleeping. Sure, the choices we make as parents are highly personal, but if you make a choice that is educated and well thought out, then there should be no defensiveness or frustration in talking about it to others.

A pp mentioned that "mainstream" parents have no trouble telling those who go against the grain how wrong they are. Why is this so true? I personally don't agree with telling someone how wrong they are or how bad their choices are, but I do believe in educating and planting seeds. Therefore, if I had some good "one liners" to throw out to those who mention crying it out, then maybe a seed could be planted and eventually a mind enlightened and so on....

So many good discussions going on...so many lucky little babies out there with mommies who realize that crying to sleep is not a necessity.
post #83 of 85
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Originally Posted by dswmom
I find it so odd that talking parenting is a topic that people consider off limits. Why shouldn't we be able to talk openly with our friends and family members about issues that are near and dear to our hearts? In particular, CIO or co-sleeping. Sure, the choices we make as parents are highly personal, but if you make a choice that is educated and well thought out, then there should be no defensiveness or frustration in talking about it to others.
Well, I think there are quite a lot of us who feel we've made very educated parenting decisions but still feel defensive or frustrated in talking with others - mainly because our parenting style is criticized or attacked or our motivations questioned.

Parenting is off-limits to a lot of people because it's through parenting that our dearest core values become clear - stuff we don't frequently talk about with people day to day. Are you religious? Hate republicans? Feel like fat people are freaks? (not you personally, the collective you) If so, these things come out in your parenting decisions and in parenting discussions.

That's why a lot of us don't talk to many people IRL about parenting stuff - we come here to do it.
post #84 of 85
I found a blog with an interesting discussion of CIO

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In Dr. Jay Gordon’s book on the family bed called Good Nights he has a whole chapter of arguments against the “Cry-It-Out” (CIO) philosophy. The most telling section is a three-page section quoting the major CIO proponents’ opinions on what happens if your baby cries so much that they throw up. I highly recommend reading just these two pages to see the cavalier way these authors treat both vomiting and head-banging. One author (Jodi Mindell) not only says that vomiting is “no big deal” but she actually says “For young children, vomiting can even be fun.” Another book called Healthy Sleep Habits actually encourages parents to let the child vomit and then fall asleep in their own vomit . Dr. Gordon’s priceless comment afterwards is “(We didn’t realize that falling asleep in one’s own vomit was a healthy sleep habit.)” The other books quoted don’t go quite so far as to say that you should just leave them in vomit until they sleep, but they do advocate a detached clean-up process whereby you would enter the room and undertake the clean-up without picking up, talking to, or even making eye contact with the baby. The premise is that, if the baby throws up and then gets attention and carrying, this will “reinforce” the vomiting. But to me this whole routine sounds like something out of Abu Ghrayb.
http://islamicparenting.blogspot.com...659006099.html
post #85 of 85
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Originally Posted by KristiMetz
Are you religious? Hate republicans? Feel like fat people are freaks? (not you personally, the collective you) If so, these things come out in your parenting decisions and in parenting discussions.

That's why a lot of us don't talk to many people IRL about parenting stuff - we come here to do it.
So, you don't talk to people about these things IRL?

I don't see how people can have friendships without talking about our values. What do you talk about then? And how do you know your friends share similar values to your own?
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