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post #21 of 29
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Originally Posted by Jbugz
I was just wondering how many are here that are in a blended family, where they are the bio mom and hubby has no kids from a previous marriage.
MEEEEE!!! I have a 4 year old and 2 year old, both girls. We left their dad in and moved straight in with NewGuy 24 hrs later. It wasn't quite as sordid as it sounds <grin> We were old friends who had dated before, and we didn't make any "getting together" plans until we let the kids scope him out and decide whether they liked him. It has worked out really well for the most part. I think he misses his alone-time, and spontaneity, but if I bring it up, he just rolls his eyes gently at me and says "Yeah, sure, it was nice, but I didn't know what I was missing back then. I could never go back to that life now."

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Originally Posted by Jbugz
I've been on a few other blended family boards and it seems the majority is always the other way (DH has biological kids) or a combination (both have bio's and have child rearing experience)
I've noticed that, too... hence me not checking into this forum until now

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Originally Posted by Jbugz
I think the obstacles are different for those of us that are the bio mom and DH has no experience...at least as far as what specific problems we face. Like before DH and I had our son together (just this March) he didn't have kids and IMO..had no clue about what it was really like to be a father. That showed in his harsh parenting "techniques" and we had constant, horrendous fights over my girls, but he'd argue to the death that his "ways" would be better for the girls in the long run.
We've had some rough sailing, too... mostly, when we got together, it was with the understanding that we were *not* a couple, and he was not wooing *me* when I moved in. His focus was on getting to know the kids, letting them get to know him, and my focus was on watching them all like a paranoid hawk for any signs that my babies might not be happy with him as a daddy.

We moved in so fast because ( <ahem> you'll love this part ) my ex is a New Zealander. When we got together, he *swore* we'd be coming back to Texas to raise the kids (I *totally* hear you about immigration. Immigrating to NZ sucks, too.) 5 years later, I came back with them and without him :-/

We were all living in NZ when the marriage ended. Ex said he wanted to "make a clean break and get on with our lives" didn't want contact with the kids, and refused to pay support (he's unemplyed and not worth more than 10 bucks a week, anyway, so I didn't bother arguing. If he wanted nothing to do with the kids, I'd rather *not* be taking money from him.) Ex also said he was leaving NZ to live in another country where he also has citizenship. So faced with the prospect of raising my kids alone in a nice, but foreign country, surrounded by *his* family, who thought I was the bad guy in the breakup, and who always bugged the shit out of me anyway, having no contact with him, no job, no car, a rural house... screw that! I came back to *my* home!

My current SO, when heard that I was separated and on the way "home" made if very clear that he wanted me, *and* the kids, and was willing to jump thorough any flaming hoops we could throw at him <grin>. Rather than trying to get off the plane and find a place to live and a job and abandon the kids to full time daycare when they're used to *2* SAHPs, and everything else they know has just gone out the window, I decided to move in with him for a while, and then I'd at least be able to scope things out before I *had* to stand on my own two feet.

Things went much better than I anticipated, though

He was raised by an in-home-daycare provider, and lived there for a while as an adult while going to college. He's been *around* kids a lot, which is great! But he hasn't ever had a parent-child *relationship* before, and despite his childcare experience, which made him pretty cocky at first, he has really been astonished at how different it is being The Dad.

I mostly stay the hell out of the way and let them grow their own relationships. When he has an idea that I think is just *too* whacked, I try to be "minimally invasive" and suggest the *least* amount of change required to keep the kids, me, the dog, and him (in that order) safe and away from total meltdown.
When he has ideas that are lovely and wonderful and really are things that only babysitters and grandparents can get away with ("Oh, go on, let 'em have a whole bag of gummi bears and an orange soda-pop for lunch! What will it hurt!?") As long as it's not gonna hurt anyone, I back off and let him learn from experience. He's pretty quick on the uptake He thought my crunchy ways were pretty odd at first, but I didn't push them on him, and he's slowly begun to see why I do them, and has even adopted some himself. No nagging required ;->

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Originally Posted by Jbugz
Of course all blended families (and families in general) have different problems...no family is the same...but I'd really like to know how many are in a similar boat ....cuz I feel this ship might sink at any moment
FWIW, I think that your feelings and issues here are not so much related to being a stepfamily as they are related to being in a not-so-good relationship. I *was* married to the girls' biodad, and *his* relationship with them and me sounds a lot more like your present relationship than my present step-family does.

Two books sealed the fate of my previous marriage:
Co-Dependent no More
Self Assertion for Women

I highly recommend them... and marriage counseling.

A family... Even a stepfamily... does *not* have to be like that.

(my ex refused counseling, which was another sign as far as I was concerned)
post #22 of 29
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Hey Selena..and thanks so much for that great reply. It really is amazing what we have in common :LOL

Two girls, two years apart, married a kiwi, etc

I only wish I had the problem of him doing things like allowing them to eat a bag of gummi bears...LOL...he'd NEVER see that as an ok thing to do

I guess right now I'm just in a waiting game because even with all of his bad points in regards to my girlies, I do care about him a great deal (and even love him when things are going smoothly....LOL) so there's no way I could take his only son away from him by divorcing him and giving him no choice but to return to NZ. He wanted this baby VERY badly. So I wait for the AOS process to finish and then he'll be on his own in the US if things don't change by then.

Things actually have gotten just a tad better lately. After some horrible fights just recently, we've changed to a hands off approach as far as he's concerned with the girls. I handle everything with them and he stays out of it. It's not great, because even though he has been shutting the heck up about stuff...he now does the quiet sulky, make everyone tense thing instead ..but it's better than constantly seeing my girls be "put in their place" :
post #23 of 29
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oh...I had another question about your ex-kiwi. Did he constantly say things like "well that's not how we do it in New Zealand" ???

Mine is always making it sound like he knows how everyone in NZ raises kids (and they apparently all do it exactly the same way) ...and none of them would dare to do it the way I do

I think he really believes that everyone there puts their kids to bed promptly at 8:30 and none of the kids would even dream of getting up after that.

Also, no kid in NZ is allowed to have a TV in their room or to own their own portable CD player..oh...and no kid in NZ would have to be told twice...is that right??
post #24 of 29
Me! Me!!! I hear you that most stepfamily boards seem to be either both spouses with kids, or just DH has kids and DW is stepmom. DH had no kids, he and I met when DD was 2, started dating when she was 3, engaged when she was 4 (and moved in together) and married when she was 5 :LOL We've been married 3 and a half years now.

It took a while. I pretty much had all the say since she was "my" DD in the beginning, and it has just kind of...evolved...from there. Her biological father is not involved, and DH adopted her two years ago so that has helped. My problem was more the "hands off" thing--I was used to being a single mom, and I liked it, but I was ready for more help, and hands off meant he didn't really do a lot with her.

It was just a gradual thing...gradually he felt more comfortable being her father, and gradually he "fit" more into our family. I tried to let him make parenting decisions without my input, and that helped, but if I didn't agree with his overall parenting style I don't know what I would have done. He's a little stricter than I am, but not to the point where I'm uncomfortable, and he really does love DD a whole lot.

Anyway, I hope it works out for you...it was definitely "two steps forward and one step back" for us for the first few years.
post #25 of 29
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Originally Posted by Jbugz
Hey Selena..and thanks so much for that great reply. It really is amazing what we have in common :LOL

Two girls, two years apart, married a kiwi, etc

I only wish I had the problem of him doing things like allowing them to eat a bag of gummi bears...LOL...he'd NEVER see that as an ok thing to do
My ex was like your kiwi. No fun :-/
Newguy is the classic "fun dad" type, which can be a PITA in some ways, but overall, it's a *huge* improvement

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Originally Posted by Jbugz
I guess right now I'm just in a waiting game because even with all of his bad points in regards to my girlies, I do care about him a great deal (and even love him when things are going smoothly....LOL) so there's no way I could take his only son away from him by divorcing him and giving him no choice but to return to NZ. He wanted this baby VERY badly. So I wait for the AOS process to finish and then he'll be on his own in the US if things don't change by then.
Sounds like a plan. I hope it doesn't drag out too long for you. Immigration policy *sucks* over here

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Originally Posted by Jbugz
Things actually have gotten just a tad better lately. After some horrible fights just recently, we've changed to a hands off approach as far as he's concerned with the girls. I handle everything with them and he stays out of it. It's not great, because even though he has been shutting the heck up about stuff...he now does the quiet sulky, make everyone tense thing instead ..but it's better than constantly seeing my girls be "put in their place" :
Argh. That's the way things were for the last year of my marriage only they were *his* girls, too, and I *did* take them away from him in the end. (with his blessings... until he found out about Newguy)

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Originally Posted by Jbugz
oh...I had another question about your ex-kiwi. Did he constantly say things like "well that's not how we do it in New Zealand" ???

Mine is always making it sound like he knows how everyone in NZ raises kids (and they apparently all do it exactly the same way) ...and none of them would dare to do it the way I do
Well, we were *in* New Zealand for 4 years, so he didn't so much say it as criticize whatever I was doing... usually non-verbally... I honestly didn't realize how much of my own ill health and depression was basically from being abused. I didn't realize that all the non-verbal manipulative crap *was* abuse. It's been eye-opening.


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Originally Posted by Jbugz

I think he really believes that everyone there puts their kids to bed promptly at 8:30 and none of the kids would even dream of getting up after that.

Also, no kid in NZ is allowed to have a TV in their room or to own their own portable CD player..oh...and no kid in NZ would have to be told twice...is that right??
OMG!!! He's not from NZ, he's from *mars* I never met *one* kid/family in NZ who fit his bizarre descriptions <LOL!>

Things that *are* different in NZ.
The plumbing sucks.
The maternity care system rocks.
Kids go barefoot more often.
There's maybe a bit less materialism.
But then again, there's less availability of things that are actually *useful.

Where is he from, in NZ? My ex grew up in the Hutt Valley, and we lived in Napier, and the Horowhenua region (sorta near Wellington).

Maybe some of his garbage is a regional thing?
post #26 of 29
ME! I married a younger man (only by 6 years) My DD was 5 when we got married he was 25. There were days that I felt like I was refereeing (sp??) 2 five year olds! We now have 2 sons together and it is better, but still not like I wanted.
post #27 of 29
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Originally Posted by Katt2005
Do you trust him with your kids?

If you do, then, step back a little and let him parent with you. Make him step up and parent all the time, not just when they do something he doesn't really like.
Be a team ALL THE TIME. If they see you guys fighting over what was just said to them, they won't listen to him. **HUGS**

Hey Katt. I'm sorry I didn't respond to this earlier. I'm just now seeing it...DOH

I do trust him with the kids physically but not so much mentally if that makes sense. I don't believe for one second that he'd purposely do anything to physically harm them, but I've seen how he deals with them in the discipline category and I really think it's degrading and hurtful to my 7 year old mainly. He has no patience with her and talks very sternly to her...but will deal with the exact same behavior with just a joking little warning to the 5 year old.

He can be really wonderful to them too tho. He plays video games with them and takes them outside to play ball and things like that. So i'm not saying it's horrible 100% of the time....I just HATE seeing my daughter so upset, he can just break her heart sometimes...and to know that she also sees the difference in how they're treated just makes it even worse.
post #28 of 29
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Originally Posted by rebeccalizzie
Me! Me!!! I hear you that most stepfamily boards seem to be either both spouses with kids, or just DH has kids and DW is stepmom. DH had no kids, he and I met when DD was 2, started dating when she was 3, engaged when she was 4 (and moved in together) and married when she was 5 :LOL We've been married 3 and a half years now.

It took a while. I pretty much had all the say since she was "my" DD in the beginning, and it has just kind of...evolved...from there. Her biological father is not involved, and DH adopted her two years ago so that has helped. My problem was more the "hands off" thing--I was used to being a single mom, and I liked it, but I was ready for more help, and hands off meant he didn't really do a lot with her.

It was just a gradual thing...gradually he felt more comfortable being her father, and gradually he "fit" more into our family. I tried to let him make parenting decisions without my input, and that helped, but if I didn't agree with his overall parenting style I don't know what I would have done. He's a little stricter than I am, but not to the point where I'm uncomfortable, and he really does love DD a whole lot.

Anyway, I hope it works out for you...it was definitely "two steps forward and one step back" for us for the first few years.

I think our "blending" might have gone a whole lot better if my DH had done like yours and made it a gradual thing..instead, he just jumped right in and started requesting rule changes. He never seemed to understand the need for them to just have a get to know you/love you period before him trying to parent them :

I hope we can somehow turn out like you after a few years (we've already been married almost 2, so not much longer to fix )... I'd love nothing more than to be able to have a more quiet, less stressful life with the man who is so wonderful to me in so many other ways.
post #29 of 29
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Originally Posted by ared1
ME! I married a younger man (only by 6 years) My DD was 5 when we got married he was 25. There were days that I felt like I was refereeing (sp??) 2 five year olds! We now have 2 sons together and it is better, but still not like I wanted.

LOL...someone else I have something in common with :LOL

DH is 7 years younger than me and I feel the same...like I'm now faced with the job of raising him too...but of course he thinks he's extremely mature
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