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post #101 of 122
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Originally Posted by elight23 View Post
Thanks for that information. Here is a link to a picture of a brush that looks like the one I found for $11 at the tack store. Mine looks sort of like the brush on the left - with the blue bristles. It is a synthetic finish brush, but it is soft. It is not as soft as the goat hair face brushes, but i tried to find one from the store you told me about that was about $11.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...%3Den%26sa%3DN

Is yours natural and super soft with short bristles or similar to the one I bought?

Thanks so much Chasmyn. My paints came in the mail today and I can't wait to get started!
Remember I live in Canada, so prices may vary

The one I bought was more like the blue one on the end, only natural hair - horsehair maybe? I think it's horsehair. and super soft - it was the softest one they had. I think that the softness is more important than anything else - if it's soft, it ought to absorb the paint enough to be a proper brush. Like if it feels like it could be a paint brush, KWIM?
post #102 of 122
Ok, we did it too! Here's my thread. And thanks so much for the inspiration and tips Chasmyn!
http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=727976
post #103 of 122
What a great thread. So much help! I'm about to do this, I'll post pictures when I'm done!
post #104 of 122
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Originally Posted by root*children View Post
but usually a pre-teen or teenager likes a change in their environment, .
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Not sure if you have thought of this-but teenagers dont usually have a really easy time agreeing with mom on a wall color. (especially girls....like me...LOL.) I am remembering my decorating projects and I totally wouldnt have had my mom lecturing me on waldorf learning.

(Meant to be totally lighthearted, and kind of funny-not confrontational post)



Jenny
post #105 of 122

I wonder...

I wonder if this would actualy make my children GO in their room?

I told dh today-I am lucky if I see them go in their room one time a day-even to just get something!

Its really cute too.:

Jenny
post #106 of 122
Dioes anyone know if there is a substantial difference if you do it with a sponge vs. a tack brush? see both methods mentioned and was wondering about the difference


Thanks!!

~Nakia
post #107 of 122
From all of the reading I have done, I got the impression that the brush is the prefered method in that the results are more in line with the goal - but sponging is used, though it seems harder to get equal results. I have seen neither in person however.

I have primed my walls with the Aglaia binder and am waiting for a block of child-free hours to start the beeswax glaze. I bought the Aglaia brush for this specific project as I figured I'd already spent so much to have everything just right, I might as well spend the extra $15 for the brush.

One of these days, I'll post my pics!
post #108 of 122
Thank god for this thread. I posted a "help" thread but no one responded. I'm really lost. We have an open floor plan so basically four main walls make up our entire downstairs area....and I tried to lazure but couldn't get it right. Half of one wall is bright orange and it's just been left like that.
Here's what I did.
I took our high quality Waldorf watercolors and mixed a little bit of paint into a cup of water and then sponged it onto the wall. It ran a ton (I see now that I should have used a brush.) It took me hours just to do a small section of the wall because I couldn't get it even looking and it just looked totally sloppy.
So here are my questions. And I have read through the entire thread...I just still don't get it lol.
Whatever type of paint I use, do I take a small container and mix in a little paint and a little water and then just watercolor wash one color over the entire wall?
Then follow up with a second coat and a third in different colors?
Do you leave the mixture thick or runny?
OR
Do you glob some paint on the wall and then use a brush and water to spread and thin the paint?

If you are using the first method- seems to me that the mixture is so thin that it just runs right down the wall? (again I was using a sponge...is the brush key here? It dosen't seem like the paint would really even stick to it if it's that thin? And I thought a DRY brush was key...so how does that one work lol?
So...let's review.
Take a small container and add some paint and some water.
Dip brush and paint entire wall one color.
Allow it to dry and go over it with a darker color.
Repeat.
Is that right?
And....to get that great sunrise effect it dosen't seem like they are applying the color as stated above.
How do you do that?
Like she did here:http://www.innavenir.com/house/painting/
How did she get that peach section across the bottom? Did she just wet the wall and put a lot more paint on that section- and it wasn't as watered down? When she did that intital first coat did she do the bottom of the wall in thicker paint and then thin out as she went up in the same color?

PLEASE HELP. My wall is a disgrace.
post #109 of 122
No, she is using different colours for each section there, I believe.

I used a brush, as dry as possible (get as much of the liquid off as possible), in really thin coats, then use a paint rag to gently wipe away any drips. It takes like a bazillion coats.

HTH
post #110 of 122
It does. Thanks for answering as well. I've been checking this thread every five minutes for days now lol.
I decided that the amount of space I'm trying to Lazure is too large, so I'm going to use organic clay paint on the first part of our open floor plan and on the section that is going to be our play area, I'll lazure.
I can't wait! I'm clay painting Monday night and then in a week or so I'll do the play area.
post #111 of 122
To add to that now that I have two whole hands to type with:

I also used several different colours in mine. When I mixed the pigments into the beeswax glaze, I'd never measure or try to duplicate colours exactly - each time I did a new coat, the colour was ever so slightly different, so as to really make the colours richer. And the more coats you do, the richer the colour. Also the darker (and cooler) the colours, the less forgiving the paint is, so be aware of that as well. It is suggested in Lazure to use different colours over each other to really get that Lazure effect, so for example, using lemon yellow for the first coats, then a more golden yellow for the next, then varying the golds in the last...and on down the wall. Does that make sense?
post #112 of 122
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Originally Posted by jillkuster View Post
And....to get that great sunrise effect it dosen't seem like they are applying the color as stated above.
How do you do that?
Like she did here:http://www.innavenir.com/house/painting/
How did she get that peach section across the bottom? Did she just wet the wall and put a lot more paint on that section- and it wasn't as watered down? When she did that intital first coat did she do the bottom of the wall in thicker paint and then thin out as she went up in the same color?

PLEASE HELP. My wall is a disgrace.
Hi, the laptop's in the shop, so I haven't been near the computer lately.

What I did was use watered down clay paint and a grout sponge. It dripped some, but was totally manageable. We got the part of the wall we were going to paint wet first, then came back with a little slightly watered-down paint, then spread it all over to get somewhat uniform color. Of course variation is a good thing, so we weren't tooo careful.

I started with the darker colors (pink) and just did a little stripe on the bottom. Let dry for a day. Come back with a slightly lighter color (peach) and completely cover the bottom layer, then go up just a little higher as well.
Repeat We always used a lighter color on top, always completely covering the color before. If we were trying to make a rainbow or something, we would have gradually moved away from always covering the color before. One thing that I read is to have at least 3 different color layers for depth, and more is better.

It seems that there are many many ways to do this, and they're all beautiful! Try not to get too caught up in the details of getting it prepared *just right* and instead just get some paint on the wall and have fun!
post #113 of 122
bumping for an op.
post #114 of 122
bumping for the person who asked about lazure and because I was really interested too!
post #115 of 122
Hi
I am so interested in the pictures but I was unable to log on to the pictures because they were private. Is there some way I could view thte photos? Thanks!

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Originally Posted by chasmyn View Post
I finally got them uploaded! Photos of our renovation, in progress! Photos of the Lazure painting!


Here they are!

Hint: Flickr! is goofy and for some reason always starts off with the last photo in the set. So scroll down to the last photo you see and start from there, then you will get everything in chronological order. I’ll be adding more photos as we go along because that’s just the first room! And there is so much more to do yet. So keep watching!


Also above the photos are some tools - one of which allows you to see the photo even bigger. So use those tools, too.


And please please please leave comments on the photos (or here)! I want to know what you think!
post #116 of 122

Step by Step

Hi all!

We are buying a new house. The entire house is white so I have a blank slate. I want to lazure my 3 yo dd's bedroom, 1 yo son's room, and a middle area in between their bedrooms that will be their play area.

I read each post on this thread. So much great info. LOVE all the pics and websites provided. But I feel a bit overwhelmed.

Can someone help me by posting a step by step way to do it?

- What supplies I will need (paint brand, sponge/brush, buckets, tape)? And if you have a specific store or website...

- What steps? For example it looks like I should at the bottom with my darkest color?

- Also if you have colors you'd recommend for a 3 yo girl and a 1 yo boy

Thank you! I will of course continue my research but I do feel so overwhelmed. Thank you!
post #117 of 122
(I just typed a really long reply and went to post and Mothering made me resign is and the message was lost, so here's the slightly abridged version)

Aglaia Beeswax Glaze Binder & Aglaia Casein Binder Paint
and lemon yellow, ultra marine red, and english red purchased at:
http://www.phoenixorganics.com/index.asp?cat=169240
I also used the brush found on that site as I wanted to make sure that I had the right materials. It worked great.

I did not have to tape off anything. After i applied the two coats of casien binder, as directed, I started by mixing in a small amount of yellow pigment into about a cup of diluted beeswax. The directions are on the can. I applied frm the top to about 2/3 way down each wall in figure 8 overlaping patterns - always blending each new dip of the brush into what i had already applied spreading outward. After I finished covering all of my walls with the same dilution of pigment I moved about a foot or less down and changed the pigment just a little. I started with yellow at the top making it darker as i went down then added the UMR making it peace and then started adding ER to make it pinker towards the bottom. It was a lot of work and took a lot of time to cover so much of the wall each time, but the depth is very beautiful. I'll try to post a picture later.

It's best to start light. you can always go back over your workto make it a little darker or more blended. make sure you get the drips within 15 or so minutes or they wil ldry and if you rub them off, it will be obvious becauae you will be rubbing off all of the layers. You can blend the drips by figure eighting back over them.

As for colors - 'they' say that peaches are for young children up to 6 or so yellows, pinks, red, purple, and then blue in the teenage years. I painted a large room for a Waldorf Parent-tot group I host and used yellow on top blending into peach with some pink on the bottom - like you've seen here. I have also seen, in a Waldorf Kindergarten, lazured peach covering the entire wall. It still looks pretty, but I liked the rainbow look that will last through the ages.

Goodluck!
post #118 of 122
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Hi
I am so interested in the pictures but I was unable to log on to the pictures because they were private. Is there some way I could view thte photos? Thanks!
Wow, I'm glad you posted! the photos aren't private, they've disappeared!

Apparently my pro account expired without my knowledge. So I'm going to have to do some new uploading and then I'll post them once I do.
post #119 of 122
Thank you so much elight23!!!! So helpful! Would love to see pics when ya can!

I'm probably going to order supplies this week. Will probably post more questions!

Thanks!
post #120 of 122

help finding aglaia

Hi,
I'm going to Lazure paint my new fitness studio. I spent most of last Friday phoning places around the country looking for aglaia paints, but it appears that the US distributor has dropped the line. So I was excited to see the post just above that says you can get the Aglaia paints from a source in Pheonix. Are you sure they have it? I'll phone first thing tommorow morning.

If I can't find Aglaia, does anybody know how difficult it is to mix the paints with beeswax from scratch.

Thanks, Chris
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