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post #1 of 8
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Hi,

It's been a few years since I read the books about Attachment Parenting, The Continuum Concept, Magical Child, Ethnopediatrics, etc. Pema, our dd is now 26 months and still BF. If I remember the gist of most of these books it is that the longer a child BF's generally their physical and emotional health has more opportunity to develop to its fullest, and is more in line with what nature intended - or at least, historical precedent before the modern era of formula feeding, etc.

So I am happy and probably a bit proud that Pema is still BF, perhaps even more so because she was born c-section.

Now to mom: It's been a long two years for her. The first year was the hardest - conception to age three months, then slowly slowly getting easier since then - my subjective impression. DW has never been of robust health, and giving birth at age 40 has obviously taken its toll on her.

Pema is a very energetic child and for that we both feel blessed and somehow DW has hung in there with the BF for this long because how can you not love and cherish this little light which has enetered our lives? How can a mother say no when she cries out "Ne, Ne!" (milk in Mandarin) in the middle of the night, sounding quite distressed?

I have little knowledge of what is normal in BF today, but my sense is that Pema expresses a greater than average need to not be separated from mother. I can see it gradually occuring. She's doesn't always have to know where mother is. Sometimes I will tell her when just DD and I are at the playground, now it's time to go pick up mama, she'll say, "I don't want to go now." Nonetheless, lately I've been getting hints from DW that she is tired and impatient for BF to end and grouses about wanting to make a change.

I'm not sure how to both remain supportive of my wife's needs, while also encouraging her not to stop breastfeeding abruptly, and being an advocate for some semblance of a natural weaning - if such a concept exists in the modern era. It seems if Pema had her way, she might hang on to the nipple for another year or two???

DW has lately been struggling with some kind of respiratory congestion and low energy.

post #2 of 8
If you don't want all out weaning.. And really it is up to your dw.. I would suggest night weaning.. We night weaned our 22 month old and I feel SOO much better during the day since I am able to get a normal-ish amount of sleep at night.. at 26 months she should be able to sleep through with out needing to nurse..

Our rule is no nursing before the sun comes up.. So.. DS3 nurses before bed.. Then no more until dawn.. (and I will nurse him at 5 am.. The sun is up.. ).. If he wakes up upset we snuggle.. He snuggles into bed with us.. But no nursing.. Of course all bets are off if he's ill or teething..

Placing limits on nursing can really extend the nursing relationship when the mother is starting to feel worn thin..

Good Luck..

Warm Squishy Feelings..
Dyan
post #3 of 8
I hope you can gently encourage your dw to continue nursing your daughter, although ultimately it is between her and your dd. I'm 46 and nursing my 5.5yo ds. He nursed quite heavily until age 3 (although he self-nightweaned at 2.5). He slowly began tapering off after 3. Shortly after 4, he was down to mostly a bedtime nursing. Shortly after turning 5, he began going 1, 2 or 3 weeks between nursings. He is slowly but surely weaning in his own time. This is not considered "the norm" in our society, but in my heart it is the norm. Anthropologist Kathryn Dettwyler has extrapolated the "natural" weaning age of humans to be between the ages of 2.5 and 7 years... Hope this helps!
post #4 of 8
It really has to be OK for your DW to continue nursing...it's a relationship that goes both ways. You can provide gentle support for your DW, but please don't pressure her to continue doing something if it's not working for her.

One thing that has helped me be able to continue nursing my son, now 33 months old, is setting limits on nursing. (I nursed him through pregnancy and am now tandem nursing him with my 3 month old.) I will count to 20 and then he's done on that side. If I can (say baby isn't nursing on the other side) he can then have 20 on the other side. I control how fast the counting goes, and therefore how long the nursing session is. I have been doing this for about 8 months now; 26 months old is plenty old to have limits set on breastfeeding if it's what your DW needs.

There are some great resources on weaning here: http://www.kellymom.com/bf/weaning/index.html
post #5 of 8
Ditto on setting limits on nursing, especially night nursing if your dw is really sleep deprived. When my dd was about the same age as yours, I was feeling burned out on nursing, and setting limits really helped me enjoy our nursing relationship again.

Also, I'd just mention that if your dd is high-needs, weaning won't take that away. In fact, it may just take away one of the best tools that your dw has to meet her needs.

Good luck!
post #6 of 8
First, tell your wife what a wonderful gift she has given your dd. Although your wife must decide what is best for her it is wonderful that you are so supportive. Night weaning may be a good way for your wife to get the rest she needs while continuing to meet dd's needs during the day. For me, my dd nurses only at night and we have now eliminated daytime nursing (my dd is over 3 and I am now pregnant so our situations are different) but that is what kept me sane and since dd gave it up without much fuss I knew she was ready. Different things work for different people. Maybe ask your wife what would help. Maybe it isn't the nursing so much as the constant needs that a little one requires -- maybe she will be happy to lay down in the daytime for an hour when you are home or maybe a walk alone will help her recharge and feel more ready to face the evening. My dd was extremely attached and breastfed frequently until age 3 and was very high needs, especially compared to dd#1. Now at almost 4 dd has started to become very attached to dad and always wanting to be with him and I am getting a bit of a break at times but it didn't happen overnight. It is wonderful that you are supportive and involved. It does get easier!!
post #7 of 8
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I have little knowledge of what is normal in BF today, but my sense is that Pema expresses a greater than average need to not be separated from mother.
It is very normal for a 26mo to need to be near mom-- more the norm than the exception.
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lately I've been getting hints from DW that she is tired and impatient for BF to end and grouses about wanting to make a change.
Could it be that she is just complaining? I often complain to DH when I am looking for a sympathic ear. I want him to hear that I'm stressed-out and in need of some time to myself.
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I'm not sure how to both remain supportive of my wife's needs, while also encouraging her not to stop breastfeeding abruptly, and being an advocate for some semblance of a natural weaning - if such a concept exists in the modern era. It seems if Pema had her way, she might hang on to the nipple for another year or two???
Be sympathic and understanding. Give your wife a break if she needs one. Maybe find a local La Leche League group she could go to (here) . Talking to other moms with nursing toddlers can be enormously helpful.
post #8 of 8
Hugs to you for being such a concerned dad!!

I'd suggest that you simply support your DW- her complaining about nursing might have just been "venting"- it doesn't automatically mean that she wants to wean. The best way you can support the breastfeeding relationship is to support your wife- give her a backrub, let her sleep in or take a nap on the weekends (or whenever you're available), help out with housework and child care (when DD isn't in a Mommy-clingy mood.) I think there's nothing sexier than a man who washes the dishes!!

If she asks for advice, you could encourage her to come here or re-read some of the AP books for practical tips on limit-setting with a toddler. And be supportive of her, whether she decides to wean, set limits on nursing, or "just go with the flow."
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