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post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
We're having a nurse-in in Grand Rapids and I want to know what steps were taken. It will be a small, simple demonstration but we have a few messages for the media and Kent County.

Did you get permission to congregate or just do it? How was your turn out? How was the public? The media response? Is there a good activist resourse out there? Is there something I'm forgetting to ask???

Julie
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I'm curious about this myself.
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I planned a Nurse Out once in honor of World Breastfeeding Week. There was a pretty good turn out but it ended up being a "Sling Out" because we all had babes in slings who were sleeping. Couldn't get a single one to nurse! Even my friend who is a grandma showed up with a doll in a sling.
It was fun nonetheless and I know we drew some attention. Who wouldn't notice 15 women standing around with slings?

Suzy
post #4 of 14
I, with other fab AP mamas, planned a Nurse-In in Columbus last week to demonstrate our support of a stalled breastfeeding bill, which passed the committee vote last week and goes to the house floor this week. I created a media advisory and sent it to all media in town. The advisory was also sent to our AP group, API group and LLL to get the word out. Had a sign making party the night before. We had a great turn out of I'd guess about 20 mamas and lots of babes. We just congregated on the State House lawn w/ blankets, lunch and signs. Turns out we DID need to have a permit from the Statehouse. But they didn't realize we weren't supposed to be there until after 2 hours. The officer sent to speak with us was very nice and said if we wanted to use our signs we'd need to move to the sidewalk or we could stay on the lawn but not use our signs. No biggie. The response among the public was GREAT! Lots of thumbs ups and many people stopping to ask what we were doing and couldn't believe the bill was being held up. BEST OF ALL, a local news station stopped and we were on the 5pm news!! It was great! Good luck to you!!!!
post #5 of 14

Columbus event

Hey karinasampaibrown - -Be sure to post here if you plan another nurse-in at the state house in Columbus. I missed the event last week, but, if there is another, would like to be there to annoy Bill Seitz and some of those other ridiculous representatives. I think Bill was the "gotta-protect-business-owners from-law-suits-due-to-customers-slipping-on-spit-up-breast-milk" amendment guy : I am glad to know, that generally speaking, it sounds like most folks in the senate and house are being reasonable about the issue. I don't usually agree with the majority of them, but I have to give credit where credit is due. Thanks to you and the other moms who made the last event happen.

Sorry for the interruption awnja! Good Luck with your event!

Tracy
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post #7 of 14
Thread Starter 
OK its planned for June 9th in Grand Rapids on the Calder Plaza downtown at 11:30 AM. The nurse-in is on!
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post #9 of 14

have rallies, not nurse-ins

I just wanted to let you know about something to consider. Its my duty to disseminate this idea to you all- I promised the writer, Elizabeth Baldwin, that I would communicate this to all moms that are planning nurse-ins, when I heard about them.

Elizabeth Baldwin was LLL's attorney, and was very well-respected in the bfing community. She was a pioneer in bfing and the law - she died about 2 years ago, of colon cancer.

This is what she posted on Lactnet, the list for lactation professionals, and what she asked me to disseminate.

Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 10:47:52 -0400
From: "Elizabeth N. Baldwin" <baldwin@LAWBF.COM>
Subject: From Liz B - REALLY IMP - Problem with nurse-IN

> THere is going to be a nurse-in at the Library on Saturday at 4pm, in
> the lobby or outside by the Lions if for some reason the library refuses
> admission to moms and babes who show up.

THIS IS NOT A GOOD IDEA. Nurse-ins are protests - they create bad press
publicity - and portray breastfeeding mothers as zealots to be avoided. NY
has the STRONGEST law in the nation - a nurse-in is NOT the way to educate
about it, enforce it, or get the library to change their position. However,
rallies are fine - they are NOT demonstrations, not hostile, but instead
give information, have speakers, and educate. Rather than do a nurse-in, why
not talk to the library about doing some education of their staff, or doing
a rally there to educate everyone about the law and the importance of
breastfeeding?

Why alienate the library? Why not work with them? Why not use the great law
that NY has to our benefit? By the way, NY's law came into effect because of
a RALLY (NOT a nurse-in) held at the mall where the mother was told to go to
a bathroom - they had speakers, it was very successful, and resulted in
really positive press coverage that helped NY to pass this great law.

Please, people, discourage nurse-ins, and help people educate through
rallies.

Elizabeth N. Baldwin, Esq.
2020 N.E. 163rd Street, Suite 300
North Miami Beach, Fla. 33162
305-944-9100

www.lalecheleague.org/LawMain.html
www.compromisesolutions.com



Me again. its too late to change the name of the event from "nurse-in" to "rally" - but I suppose you could use that word in your interviews. This is just her opinion, but I can see her point. I think the less you talk about any negative bfing incident itself (that may have sparked the need for a nurse-in, but speak about the issue in general, the better response you will have, and the more respect you will get. And after all, we need the larger population to reflect on what the issues at hand, and to be responsible for what affect that *they*may have on new moms trying to decide whether to continue bfing. Take the power back from negative incident - it was/is really only important in that they've given you moms the opportunity to have your voice heard. Be positive and strong, not whiny and angry. Remember - bfing is increasing - the truth will come out - we are just on the beginning edge of social change.

This is just another POV - you'll need to figure it out for yourself what works for you and the situationyou are facing.

And Elizabeth was much older than many women who are bfing today. I do see, and think that a younger generation of bfing women may approach bfing advocacy and their bfing rights, differently that women of a previous generation. And I think its okay if different people approach advocacy differently - its all important, and helpful.


(BTW, re:New York library event that was refered to. IIRC, the mom involved was a lawyer, but she herself didn't really want the nurse-in to happen, it was organized in a hurry,through the internet, by someone else. (that's what I've been told)

Janice
post #10 of 14
Thread Starter 
Thank you Janice. This is the kind of input I really need!

You are right in that we do want to aviod coming across as confrontational radicals. But to get the laws changed we also want to point out that we do have a problem and need for action. We will not do much tageting of the official that sparked the whole thing. Not sure what angle the media will take, but I do know that a little conflict usually helps get some attention. The challenge, now, will be to keep that conflict from being the focus.

So our goal is to be peaceful and celebrate nursing, pointing out that it's so healthy for mom and baby. But also point out that we need more support.

In Michigan, its specifically illegal to harass a hunter. . . why not a breastfeeder too?

The word rally would have welcomed more folks too. I've had to keep stating that you don't need to be breastfeeding to attend. I MAY have time to change the press release...

Julie
post #11 of 14
don't worry - it will be, what it will be. its all good.

One of my favourite movies recently was "Iron Jawed Angels" - it ran frequently the past year on our movie chanel on satelite TV. Its about the suffragette movement in the US. Basically it took ALL women's actions to get the vote.

There was a group of conservative women, who worked "with" the system, and they had been waiting to get the vote, since the civil war. But the
establishment (male) always told them "the time isn't right, wait", and they
did. But then a group of young women broke off, and started picketing in
front of the White House every day, with signs that embarrassed the
President. They were evenutally arrested, and one went on a hunger strike
and was beaten and force-fed in the jail. This got the group of
conservative women so mad, and since they already had the ear, trust and
respect of the President, they shamed him into letting it come to a vote.
They won. (maybe you know all this story, and maybe it isn't all true, but
its a great story). Anyhow, it really impressed me that you need BOTH
kinds of advocacy - it needed the existence of BOTH groups of women, to get
the job done. (The movie starred Hilary Swank).

As I said - we have truth on our side - and I DO believe that ultimately it
will prevail.

Janice
post #12 of 14
On the tails of the Columbus nurse-in , I organized one in Cleveland. We went to the business of one of the state reps who was attempting to add ammendments to the bill.

We invited all the local tv and newspapers, had a local paper and one tv station come out, and had no response from the rep/owner.

We did not tell them we were coming, we were a "group of women having dinner" at the business. We intended to not protest, but to be law abiding patrons. We all ordered food, ate quietly, and fed our children as needed.

Was fun!
post #13 of 14
I did a Nurse Out last year at the mall.
http://www.promom.org/
I did ask permision because I set up a table & was handing out material. A lot of moms came & hung out & breastfeed their babies. I think we had 22 - not so bad since I decided to do it 2 weeks prior.

THat site has a lot of good information.
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