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post #21 of 200
Well, if I hadn't already cancelled my subscription, this would have caused me to do so.

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post #23 of 200
I, too, am disappointed that Peggy didn't take a stronger stance against circumcision. I understand not wanting to alienate people who have circumcised their sons. However many people (myself included) need to hear the brutal truth spoken openly to understand the significance of circumcision--that it is wrong and does harm to children.

I hope Peggy will make a statement about her article. I'd like to hear her response to this thread.
post #24 of 200
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Originally Posted by Britishmum
I understand that she needs to sell copies and doenst want to upset a proportion of her readership. But I believe that there are some causes that are worth standing up for. There are moral issues that you need to put yourself on the line for. If you are a voice of 'authority', you have a moral responsibility to do so.
I agree. That's why I made the FGM correlation. No one would think twice about condemning that practice publicly. Are boys worth any less?

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... but as unclear as mud about mutilating a child's genitals.
I am especially surprised because of the Mothering's usual stance (Fleiss articles, the circ. reprint available for purchase) and the tone of this board. Her statements just don't go along with either. Maybe it's her personal POV.

I had not thought about cancelling my subscription, but I'm going to consider it now. It's my favorite magazine, but if I cannot count on it to take a stand for what it's right, then what's the point?
post #25 of 200
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While I do suppport choice in the matter of vaccinations I see no middle ground or allowable choice(by parents) when it comes to genital cutting. It is not their place to alter a child's genitals in any way...even in cases where the sex is unknown. The matter should be left to the owner.
This is exactly how I feel- it really is a human rights issue- why do women have the right to intact genitals but not men? Is it simply because often women lose all capacity for sexual pleasure while men don't lose all capacity but certainly do lose full capacity? It's not ok to kill someone's sexual pleasure but it is ok to handicap it?

Parents do not have authority over a child's body or future sexuality. Just because a mom wants her newborn to have a nosejob doesn't mean one is performed- it is just the same- circumcision has no medical benefits and it cosmetic surgery.
post #26 of 200
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I did send Peggy an email with the same thoughts I have expressed here. I also sent her the link to this thread and to the same thread in Activism.
post #27 of 200
I, too, am troubled by Peggy's comments on circ. Mothering Magazine has always been a friend to me; I've subscribed since 1979, and I own every single issue that's ever come out. Peggy has taken several courageous stands in favor of home birth and midwifery and gentle discipline, among others. Why not vax and circ.?
post #28 of 200
this makes me sad. nothing about circ. should be questionable. and it's not about trust it's about respect for your child's body!!! I am simply shocked to see this attitude in Mothering that it's ok if it's the choice your family makes. it's so not ok to mutilate baby boy's genitals!
post #29 of 200

grr

This really upsets me to hear.

I just gave a friend a gift subscription to Mothering. Her pregnancy was a bit of a shock and she's very confused on multiple issues - one of them being circ. I'm sending her good info - but I really hoped this magazine would have something backing up what i've been saying to her before she's due.
post #30 of 200
That's how I feel, Lindsay. I like having a community and at least one mag that backs up the messages I stand for. There is a boat load of the opposing messages. Parents don't need to be told they have the option to circ their child and we "trust" their decision - that is expected. Parents need to be told they can't circ - which is like reversing brainwashing most of the time. It ain't easy, and we need as much back up with STRENGTH and CONVICTION in the messages as we can get.

When I hand over my pile of books, mags and articles to a pregnant friend, and that is the message they receive, it will not give the impassioned enough plea to sway the cultural mindset. I do a better job over a coffee with them .
post #31 of 200
How sad and frustrating. I expected more from Mothering. Protection of all children should be the number one thing when it comes to NFL.
post #32 of 200
Hi Everyone,

Am I the only one who is questioning why vax and circumcisions are lumped together in one sentence as being complex decisions?

I realize that many of you do not vax, but the research available on that issue is far more complex than the circ issue.

Sincerely,

Lise
post #33 of 200
Yep, that's what I thought too (see my post above). No circ = no brainer. Vax.....definitely a brainer.
post #34 of 200
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Originally Posted by mattemma04
With the NFL book,if I remember correctly while it did not advocate circ it did recommend to atleast wait till a child was 6 months old to cut him up.Somehow being older makes it better.

I do feel that the wording may need to be better, but I took this statement as that, if a family waits at least six months to decide to cirsumcise, they will learn that they do NOT need to cut off part of their ds's genitals. KWIM? After 6 months, they may no longer be intimidated by an intact penis. And, if after 6 months the family decides to go through with the "procedure" anyway, the doctors will be more likely to use anaesthesia.

Just my 2 cents.
post #35 of 200
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Originally Posted by Messac888
After 6 months, they may no longer be intimidated by an intact penis. And, if after 6 months the family decides to go through with the "procedure" anyway, the doctors will be more likely to use anaesthesia.

Just my 2 cents.
it still doesn't make it right though
post #36 of 200
I was like this when I read that wishy-washy editorial. My first thought was to bring it here and talk about it! My second was, will I get in trouble for questioning her? : I wasn't quite sure if the whole "never question a mod's decision" thing would spill over into never questioning Peggy O'Mara's articles. I'm glad I wasn't the only one who read it this way.
post #37 of 200
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I just gave a friend a gift subscription to Mothering. Her pregnancy was a bit of a shock and she's very confused on multiple issues - one of them being circ. I'm sending her good info - but I really hoped this magazine would have something backing up what i've been saying to her before she's due.
I saw the eczema article and told a friend to pick up the magazine, after reading Peggy's editorial, I made copies of the eczema article for her and told her not to buy it. (she's pregnant with a boy)


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Am I the only one who is questioning why vax and circumcisions are lumped together in one sentence as being complex decisions?
It makes no sense.

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but I took this statement as that, if a family waits at least six months to decide to cirsumcise,
6 months? Where does she say that? Most parents circ at birth anyway, barring medical problems.

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will I get in trouble for questioning her?
I haven't gotten in trouble yet...and this is actually my most popular post in the 3+ years I have been here! Maybe something good will come out of it and some creative soul will come up with a nice Senior title for me!
post #38 of 200
I just wanted to say that I was also disappointed with that editorial. And I agree - vax and circ should not be lumped in together. While I have stopped vaxing my children, I do think that the evidence there is much more complex, and certainly strong arguments are made for immediate medical benefits to vaxing.

Not the case at all with circumcision.

I actually bought Peggy's Natural Family Living book to check out the circ information before I started sending it as a baby gift. It seems to be very anti-circ, but then does recommend that if you want to circ, you wait until 6 months.

I have decided (very sadly) not to buy and give it as a baby gift. I do believe that circ is a black and white issue, and I don't understand not taking a strong stand against what is, as others have said, a human rights violation.

post #39 of 200
Hey Ilaria, just wanted to let you know I always check out your posts....you're not being ignored!
post #40 of 200
Thread Starter 
Oh thanks.
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