Anyone bothered by latest Mothering issue?!?!?! - Page 3

[AmandaBL]

As always, well said, Frank!

I really really really hope that a correction is made. I love mothering & hope I can continue to do so.

[Arduinna]

As far as I am concerned this is a complete 180 from the Case Against Circumcision issue that Mothering Mag ran years ago.

[Mavournin]

Originally Posted by Arduinna

As far as I am concerned this is a complete 180 from the Case Against Circumcision issue that Mothering Mag ran years ago.

Exactly.

[Soxfan Mom]

I vaccinate my children but am always willing to open my mind to why I should be wary and ask a lot of questions. But circumcision? I wouldn't have dreamed of doing that to my baby boy. I'm disappointed in the editorial. I wish Frank would start a petition using his excellent post.

[Frankly Speaking]

Originally Posted by Soxfan Mom

But circumcision? I wouldn't have dreamed of doing that to my baby boy and am appalled that Mothering took such a wishy-washy stand. I wish Frank would start a petition to send to Ms. O'Mara's in-box using his excellent post.

Essentially, that's what this thread is all about. An on-line petition. I had intended to write Ms. O'Mara and provide a link to this thread so that everyone could have their say without jamming her inbox. However, someone else has already e-mailed her. If we don't hear something from her soon, I will approach her again with a link to this thread and ask for a response. It could be that she has already been here and is currently putting her thoughts together for a response. I know that will be very difficult for her and I don't want to unnecessarily pressure her.




Frank

[bravofrenchie]

All that I've been thinking has already been said by others on this thread, so I'll just add my : to all of the above.

[Ilaria]

Yes, PLEASE let her know how you feel about this editorial! You can email her what your wrote in response to this thread. Let her know! Even though she might read this thread, she needs letters that can be published in the next issue!!

[e-mail]

[A&A]

Perhaps we need to introduce Peggy O. to Penn and Teller. :LOL

[AnnMarie]

I got my niece a sub for her baby shower. I want my $$$ back!! I got her the magazine along with the Mothering book on circ JUST because of their stance on circ. I was robbed!...as well as all the baby boys out there who's parents minds may have been changed if she stuck to her original stance on circumcision. This board has become a disappointment lately, now the magazine too?

If anyone knows of a REAL AP board, please PM me with a link. TIA!

[Piratemomma]

Ive thought about gifting Mothering to expectant mothers. Definately wont now.

[calngavinsmom]

So sad to see Mothering has let down the baby boys

Tara

[Dechen]

I won't be recommending Mothering Magazine, that is for sure. I thought Mothering was willing to take a stand against cosmetic genital surgery in infant boys.

[sistermama]

I wonder who she is so worried about alienating? I can't imagine that there are hordes of circumsizing parents lining up to buy a mag that regularly shows breasts (eek) and discusses the use of marijuana during pregnancy.....

[mamakay]

both in the integrity of the child's body and the inherent authority of the parents to make decisions for the family.

Woah.

The authority of the family to make decisions about the cosmetic mutilation of a child's genitals with little, inadequate, or no anestesia?
Parents have no such authority or right. The procedure should be banned. It should be a criminal offense. A felony. Period.

[indie]

I'm disappointed too. If it hadn't been for the outspoken folks at MDC I would have left the decision for any boys that we might have had up to my DH and who knows what he might have done thinking it was just normal to circ. We didn't know back then that DH actually has a really bad circ that causes problems. Now that we know we would never do that to a child or say that it was ok to do to someone else.

[Cynthia Mosher]

This sort of talk feels bashing to me and I struggle with things like this as I don’t want to silence strong opinions. But at the same time I get angry that some members use Mothering and MDC's resources to accuse and cast suspicion rather than expressing their feelings and disagreement with respect and assume the best.

Word of disappointment and question, discussions of the topic in general are fine. While I can appreciate why you feel what you do and why you wish to have this discussion, it certainly can be had without nastiness.

The thread can continue if all posts that contain accusations and expressed suspicions and insinuations are edited within 24 hours. Also, please refrain from posting to take issue with my direction here. Take that to me privately please.

[Cynthia Mosher]

I also suggest that you attend a Peggy O'Mara chat and ask your questions there. She will be hosting one this Tuesday at 1 PM EST.

[Frankly Speaking]

Originally Posted by Cynthia Mosher

The thread can continue if all posts that contain accusations and expressed suspicions and insinuations are edited within 24 hours. Also, please refrain from posting to take issue with my direction here. Take that to me privately please.

I agree with you that we should write respectfully. Words that anger do not foster communication but instead tend to stop communication. That's not the objective.

This is one of, if not one of the most passionate topics I know of not only in parenting but in all topics. It has a way of creeping up on you and as you learn more, it only becomes more disturbing to the point that it can control our reason and logic for a while at least. That means that we will often post things in superlatives and things that are harsh. I've been there. There were things that I would have liked to post that would have melted computer screens across the globe. In this passionate time of our lives, it can be hard to recognize what can be offensive when we re-read our own writings. It makes so much sense to us that we can't see how it could possibly not make sense to everyone else. I hope everyone will go back and re-read what they have written in this frame of mind.

However, I hope that you will realize too, that everyone who has posted here does not visit this forum every day and may not read your post for several days. 24 Hours is a little short for complete compliance with you request. I hope you are flexible in this matter.



Frank

[Cynthia Mosher]

Frank, we do not leave posts up that are attacking and casting of suspicion. If the editing is not completed within the timeframe then I will remove the thread and those of you that are frequenting the forum regularly can post a new one adhering to the respectful discussion guidelines and ask that reponses conform.

[jessjgh1]

Cynthia,
I just hope that Peggy is made aware of the concern voiced on this thread. It would mean a lot if some personal response was voiced here- rather than just being told to attend the regularly scheduled chat.


Frank,
I know you mentioned writing a collective letter. I think that is a great idea. Maybe even a new thread with the letter and then everyone that wishes to have their name added can post?
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I have a conflict on Tuesdays and so far have missed all the excellent Tuesday chat guest speakers, and will miss next Tuesday's as well. I had hoped to hear a response before then though. Surely things are not that busy at Mothering?

My family has been sick and I'm still sick. I have not even touched my edition of Mothering yet. Thanks to the OP for pointing out this inconsistency- the strong support Mothering had for intactness was one of the main reasons that I subsribed to Mothering. I am sad to see that support was not what I thought.

Jessica