Originally Posted by mzbuntz
I felt upset and afraid for my friend because the story is straight out of Jerry Springer.
MZ-- And there you have it. Jerry Springer is a put-on. Can you really not understand why we would doubt you?
Hey, I guess stranger things have happened, but the way you described it...
Not to mention the tone of your posts in other threads... (I'm thinking of the UC board)
See, it's not just the insanity of the situation, it's the way you described it-- like when we expressed surprise that one would birth outside in the winter, you backpedaled, conceding that it won't be that
cold in the winter-- just 50 degrees. For birth. Outside. In the water. Not that cold? Who doesn't know that's cold?
I mean, it sounded like you were making it up as you went along-- or that you were terribly... naive? Young? Ignorant?
Frankly, since you have seemed somewhat judgemental in other places, I can't understand that you wouldn't
have immediately seen that this whole situation was wildly inappropriate-- that you would have just shrugged and felt you needed to ask perfect strangers whether this was normal. You just said it was like something out of Jerry Springer, so I doubt you'd have been convinced by us on the very off-chance we said it was okay. You don't sound like you even needed confirmation that it was bad-- so why ask us?
It sounded like you were fishing for "crazy homebirthers"-- especially as the story got more and more elaborate as we expressed our positions....
It seemed like you were saying "Hmmmmm.... Let me think of something that sounds really bizarre and see if these nuts will agree to it. I know! Pond birth!"
And then we said it was okay, but most of us wouldn't do it-- but gave reasonable, difficult-to-argue-with reasons why waterbirth is perfectly safe. You couldn't say much to that, so you added that the birth was going to take place in winter, the pond had beer cans in it and the algae would holistically sterilize it.
We didn't bite, of course, because that's just terrible practice!
Then you added weirdness about bizarre internal exams involving raw chicken...
It wasn't just the weirdness, but the way you didn't tell the whole story right away. You seemed to keep embellishing it, YKWIM? If the worst of it was the raw chicken and beer cans, why wouldn't you have mentioned those
things right off the bat?
Plus... What advice were you looking for? I mean, we're telling you that this is totally bizarre-- not at all normal or holistic, and that, assuming you're telling the truth, you should get your friend out of this "Jerry Springer" situation, etc. And...? It doesn't sound
like you have done anything significant for your friend, which would be terribly odd.
Curiouser and curiouser...
I gotta let this one go...