Originally Posted by loving-my-babies
I don't think this is fair. My children will share classrooms with circumcised, CIO, formula fed babies and will have to witness their emotional traumas. We also share a society with children that have been abused, and yes we're going to have to "clean up" for them too. does that give me the right to call up their moms and tell them to stop being stupid and start doing things MY way? no.
Who called you up??? Are your children staring at the penis's of the other children in his/her class?? Is it bad that you may have to clean up the mess of a child who survived child abuse, but it's no big deal that I may have to clean up the mess when you kill repeatedly risk your child's life??? Or is ok because at least your form of child abuse has a better chance of actually killing the child--after all, then after the initial PITA it's all over--God knows that the people who deal with it every freaking day don't have nightmares, don't require councelling.
There is a very basic difference--do police officers have the right to tell you to keep your child in a car seat--damn right they do--it's the law, that simple, they also have a right to tell you can't rob banks or shoot people in the head, if you feel so strongly that children who are circ'd are abused messes that society will have to clean up after for the rest of their life, lobby to change the law, but frankly, my dh is circ'd, after reading up on it we wouldn't have done it if Molly was a boy, but my dh is an upstanding member of society who contributes and is not a burden on our community--and he never has been. I was formula fed, I have also never been a burden on my community or anyone elses, in fact I've done more hard work as a volunteer than most people do. I've saved lives, many of them, I don't do it anymore because the people who say things like "I can take my kid out of a car seat and risk his life because afterall, uncle sam says its still ok to feed formula and circ--when he makes those things illegal, I'll respect the laws."
You have NO IDEA what so-ever what is done to the people who come to your aid. It changes our lives every single day. Usually not for the better. We burn out and we quit. Because the anger eats away at us that people don't learn this simple lesson until after their child is DEAD!!!!
not obese, not missing his foreskin, not insecure because his parents didn't respond quickly enough to his needs but DEAD--never to be hugged, fed, touched, or cried with again.
If you can honestly compare the damage of circing and not breast feeding with the damage of a dead child that would be not only alive but healthy and happy had his parents just taken the time to pull over to a safe spot. No your child doesn't know what a car seat is--but you can talk to him while you locate a safe spot to pull over--if you're sitting on the toilet and baby starts to cry do you immediately jump up and just piss all over the floor to get to your child who is crying in a safe place or do you finish peeing and call to him from the bathroom to tell him he's ok and you'll be with him in a matter of minutes.
Here's what I hope for you, I sincerely hope with all my heart that the day you need someone to help your child, for whatever reason, I hope that all the good ones aren't burnt out and someone is available to help you, cause for me and many of my friends, we're too busy in councelling to help another parent who could have prevented a tradgedy but they were too flipping busy or lazy to pull off the road to a safe place.
Nobody here is saying to leave your child to cry, everyone is giving extremely feasable options to leaving your child to cry that are for the most part safe.
Sorry, you just have no idea what you are comparing because you've never seen it, I pray you never have to.