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post #41 of 163
hey this is such a good thread! Is so good to be able to look at the other side of the story, so far what I have read and felt about waldorf is so beautiful, and Im willing to introduce these things into our lives but I suppose that extremists in any thing, can really mess up the most beautiful ideas!
Im more convinced now of homeschooling and of learning more!
Thanks !!
post #42 of 163
And I'm sure that those who look for the beauty will see it. And those who wish to create beauty will. But, those who look for problems will find them also. We choose our paths and create our own realities.
post #43 of 163
I worked for a waldorf school as the director of enrollment for nearly 2 years. My daughter went 2 years of pre-k and 1 year of K to the school. This year she is in an alternative public school. She is in 1st grade. She tranfered wonderfully with no problems, her social skills are far above those of her peers, she is doing very, very well and I like her new school a good deal.

So, why is she going back to waldorf next fall?

Because if you have to send your child to a school (i'm single mom can't homeschool have to work) waldorf is the best alternative.

I sent her to her current school because of the reservations I had about the ciriculm, teachers, class size, Steiner, you name I had it! What I discovered is that I would rather she be in an enviroment of a waldorf school. No tests! Lots of hands on! No worksheets!

I know there are some wacko anthrophosifits (sp) out there who don't see Steiner's work as evolving and sit on his words like hard truth never to be bent or even broken. I know lots of people have problems with the no-degree teacher training. No state certifications, etc.

Well, check out the teachers at your local school...I'll bet there is at least one who doen't have a teaching degree! And I would rather not have the state any where near my kido. She doesn't fit into a box, thank you!

I know there are problems with waldorf but ther are problems with every educational system. Have an open mind and don't just believe everything bad you hear, do your own research!
post #44 of 163
heartlight --
I like what you had to say so much I am printing the page.

goddess -- no truer words have been spoken
post #45 of 163
post #46 of 163
zinemama -- i hope you see this.

i am familiar with green meadow school as i am in that area. i wonder if you might give me some insight into one area of waldorf education.

the biggest question/concern i have is the teaching of old testament stories. i wonder if you remember being taught them and how they were handled.

i am new to these boards and can't figure out how to email you. if you can figure out how to email me you can reply that way as well if you prefer.

post #47 of 163
Beaner- got your email. I will email you about this, hopefully today at naptime, but I just wanted to let you know that I got your message. Two toddlers are going crazy here. MOre later!
post #48 of 163
I am so glad to read other positive and open minded responses. I too (as did my daughter) detect an awful lot of anger and a desire to deminish Waldorf education and the product of such an education. Lets recognize our differences and support the choices that rise from that recognition rather than destroy what others find life transforming. After all it is about the children...

Blessings Queen mamma
post #49 of 163
This is my first posting. I was so pleased to find a thread about Waldorf education, and as I scanned the body of posts, began to be saddened by the amount of negativity and venom directed toward something I hold in esteem. It seems that the internet came at just the wrong time during the growth of Waldorf. A few individuals who may or may not have been wronged as much as they think, have been very prolific in developing a smear campaign via website, and have many followers who find no better purpose in life but to focus on and spread bitterness. *That* sickens my stomach.

I also have criticisms about Waldorf and I do not consider Steiner a personal god, however I think that digging far enough into nearly anything one can find negatives. Millions of people remain Christian despite the Inquisition and the slaughter or forced conversion of Pagans in Europe and the Americas. "Americans" still pledge allegience to the Flag under which they stole a nation of land away from Native tribes. We cannot erase harmful beliefs and attitudes of the past, but work for change in the present. We need to work against real racism where it exists, not chase after ghosts.

So finally, if someone walks into my house and goes directly for my garbage can, they will find some unsightly things. These are the things I am throwing away. For pity's sake, I hope they don't take pictures and post them on the internet.
post #50 of 163
Welcome, Isis!

Well said!
post #51 of 163

more on Waldorf

Hey there, everyone!

I had not planned to say anything more about Waldorf education on this list, but felt compelled to do so when I read a few of the more recent comments accusing me and others who are critical of Waldorf education of being mean-spirited, venomous, unable to see the beauty that is there, etc. Without the opportunity for us to speak face to face, there is little chance that I can convince you that that characterization is wrong -- all wrong. I am critical -- very critical -- of Waldorf not because I am determined to see the negatives inherent in it, but rather because SIX YEARS AS A VERY INVOLVED WALDORF PARENT FORCED ME TO THAT CONCLUSION.
Like all of you, I am a loving mother devoted to my children's welfare. I want what is best for them; and I especially want for them what is beautiful, gentle, graceful, good and wholesome. When it came time to think about schooling (heck, whom am I kidding? I thought about education and schooling before my first baby was born! <g>) I spent many hours researching, visiting, considering. When I stumbled across Waldorf education, I thought I had found the best, the most wonderful, the most beautiful option out there. I remember being so touched and taken by the physical beauty of the Waldorf classroom -- the gentle washes of colors on the wall, the lovely Madonna and Child reproduction painting, the wooden and wool toys -- that tears actually sprang to my eyes. I loved the idea that Waldorf "let children be children" and I thoroughly approved of the idea of not hurrying children. My husband and I enrolled our older girl when she was four, and she had a wonderful experience in the Waldorf nursery and kindergarten. Other than a few uncomfortable moments that happened when the nursery-kindergarten teacher tried to give us strategies to stop our daughter from reading at age 4 and a half (she taught herself as we read her from storybooks), nothing seemed particularly worrisome.
But as our older girl progressed through the grades, we developed various questions and concerns, and, increasingly, felt either disturbed by the answers given (which always pointed to Steiner and a certain "group think") or by the answers that were *not* given. When our daughter reached third grade -- the grade during which Waldorf children are supposed to reach "parity" with non-Waldorf children -- we began to worry because it seemed that so many of her classmates were having great difficulty with easy, easy reading, and with basic math. This seemed to concern the teachers not at all. At this point, our daughter also complained about the fact that all of the drawings and paintings in her mainlesson books had to be copied from the teachers' drawings, down to color and placement on the page. We also began to notice strange information coming home in our daughter's work -- superstition that was being presented as "science." (Around this time, my daughter also commented that she was excited to be allowed to use a black crayon in her drawings. Simultaneously, our younger girl -- Chinese by ethnicity and still in the kindy -- said she was sad that she could not draw herself because there was no black crayons to use. I inquired about the reason for the "no black" rule during a parent evening which I taped on audiocassette. The result was that the school demanded that I give them the tape! I refused. It turns out that Anthroposophy -- the religion on which Waldorf is constructed -- considers black a "spiritually" negative color for small children who are still "incarnating." Black is "Ahrimanic," that is, imbued with the spirit of the dark god, Ahriman. Tell that to my daughter, whose hair is black. Or to her African-American friends.)
I won't bore you with the details: suffice to say that my husband and I began to ask questions in earnest, and did not like the answers. We had begun by supporting the idea of a school that did not *force* children to read, write, take tests, etc. prematurely. BUT NO ONE HAD SEEN FIT TO TELL US THAT WALDORF SCHOOLS TRY TO PREVENT CHILDREN WHO ARE READY TO READ, ETC. BEFORE THE AGE OF 9 FROM DOING SO! During that period of asking questions and researching, we quickly learned that Waldorf was not, as it had been portrayed, a "non sectarian" school. It was actually a parochial school, promoting anthroposophy and revolving around/adhering to the tenets of that religious sect. Everything at a Waldorf school, from the colors of the classrooms to the "science" taught there is dictated by anthroposophy. Now, if we were anthroposophists, or had no quarrel with the tenets of anthro. (which include a belief that blonde hair and blue eyes bestow intelligence) that would be fine. The problem is, we are NOT anthroposophists. Had the Waldorf movement told the truth about the true nature of the schools, we would never have enrolled our children.
To those who say I am full of venom, or that if I look in a garbage can, I will find garbage, I wonder: How would YOU feel if you had enrolled your child in a school that promised to share your views and then later learned that, behind your back, that school was teaching your children things that you utterly disagree with? How would you feel if you learned that the school that promised to respect your child's individuality was, instead, trying to remake your child in a mold poured by a 19th century Austrian mystigogue whom you knew little about?
Let me tell you: I would not wish our experience on anyone. The cost in human emotion -- we were well entrenched in our Waldorf community, and left behind many, many friends -- and in money was devastating. Our child had been at her school for six years -- it was all she knew. Yet she was so glad to get out that she still shudders when we drive by the Waldorf building. "I thought my brain was bad when I went there," she told me once. "Every time I asked a question, the teacher would either just ignore me, or look away and just not answer. It got so I thought thinking about things was wrong."
Unfortunately, my child's and family's experience is far from unique. The Waldorf survivors' list is full of people with the same stories -- bright children who were discouraged from being bright to fit in with Waldorf's "lowest common denominator" -- or worse. (One Waldorf survivor from England suffered horrendous physical and sexual abuse at her very famous Waldorf school. No one did anything about it, because "karma" -- the notion that things happen for a reason -- was cited. A California mother of a boy with a rare genetic disorder is suing her child's former Waldorf school after the school allowed brutal bullying of her son, who is disfigured by his disease. When asked why no one stopped this harrassment, she was told her son was strange looking. *In fact, several teachers at an American Waldorf school wrote a paper on bullying, during which they discussed the role of karma and destiny in bullying, and talked about when, if ever [IF??] teachers witnessing severe bullying should intervene.)
Let me tell you: I wish things had turned out otherwise. We enrolled our children with the highest hopes and greatest expectations, and were very involved in the school community. I was one of the mom volunteers that the school would call on for open houses, to talk to other prospective parents, to write newsletters, etc. for the school, and so on.
So, am I angry? Yes, I am. I am angry at not being told the whole truth about Waldorf up front. (The reasoning behind this lack of honesty puzzles me. Eugene Schwartz, a Waldorf teacher and a leading voice in the Waldorf movement, agrees with critics like me that Waldorf fails to tell parents the truth. He has chastised Waldorf leaders in public for this, and has warned that this is becoming a large problem. Schwartz also has gone on record saying that Waldorf schools are "profoundly religious" and have no place in public school systems ... a point on which I agree.)
Am I venomous? Nope. I am only asking that Waldorf schools tell parents the truth up front. And I am encouraging parents to thoroughly research Waldorf before enrolling.
Our children deserve nothing less than the very best environment that we can give them. And finding out whether the Waldorf environment *is* that special place requires being willing to look behind the pretty colored walls and the wooden toys and the charming woolen fairies to the philosophy that drives it all.
Perhaps after looking behind and beneath, you will decide that Waldorf is the right place for your child. That's great. That is what I would call a "good fit." And that is as it should be.
But if Waldorf is not for you or your child, it is better to know up front. I am sure you will agree that your child deserves that much.

Warm regards,

Lisa Ercolano in Baltimore, Maryland, USA
post #52 of 163
So you have determined you don't like Waldorf education. Ok. Life is precious. Move on and be happy. Best of luck.
post #53 of 163

It appears to me that you would like to discredit Waldorf education. But let’s be honest. Those who research Waldorf education know that Waldorf schools discourage reading before the age of seven. The theory, which I respect, is that it is detrimental for young children to become intellectual too early. If they do, it comes at the expense of other healthy development, such as creativity and imagination. How do I know this is the Waldorf view? It is not a secret! I am doing my research! I read! There are so many wonderful books about Waldorf education.

I also find your characterization of Waldorf schools as racist and cult-like disingenuous and offensive. I am not an Anthroposophist, but I do not believe that there is anything wrong with people who are. In my experience, at all of the numerous schools that I have visited (here and in England), the teachers are very up front about Anthroposophy and work hard for inclusion and diversity in the schools. If your experiences were prevalent, the schools would not survive. (I understand that on the contrary, Waldorf schools are blossoming all over the world.) Yet you portray your perception as “The Truth.” You, and a vocal minority, were apparently disappointed in your choice.

I think Waldorf schools are better described as spiritual than religious. They recognize that human beings are spiritual beings, but they do not impart any religion to the students.

And I do believe that some schools are better than others, some teachers are better than others, etc. But to discredit an entire educational movement based on a few incidents is unfair. You admit that your dd “had a wonderful experience in the Waldorf nursery and kindergarten,” so I wonder why you can’t give credit to that experience. Perhaps you failed to heed the advice you are giving, to look beyond the surface.
post #54 of 163

to "Isis," about my view of Waldorf

"Isis," (I wonder why it is that I feel comfortable using my whole, real name, and yet you hide behind a pseudonym ....)

My impression from reading your "Come on, Lisa ..." post is that it is *you* who seem "venomous" and "angry." Contrary to what you believe and purport, I am NOT out to "discredit" Waldorf; rather I am "out to" get Waldorf schools to be honest about what and who they are.

May I suggest that your visiting several Waldorf schools is not quite the same as spending six years as a parent at one? I don't think that any sentient individual would believe that a "visit," even one that lasts a few hours or even a few days, would enable someone to understand a place in depth. I respectfully submit that six years as a very involved parent, on the other hand, *does* make me qualified to make a more accurate judgment. And my judgment (one shared by many ex-Waldorf parents and by several leaders in the Waldorf "movement," by the way) is that Waldorf schools do a terrible job of informing parents about their religious nature, and what that religious nature means.

Just for the record, "Isis," I *did* do my "homework" before enrolling my child. I am a newspaper reporter, and came across Waldorf when I was doing a story on my local Waldorf school. I spent about five or six hours interviewing the admissions director, a group of three nursery and kindergarten teachers, and an elementary school teacher handpicked for that purpose. I asked dozens and dozens of questions, including whether anthroposophy is "in the classroom" (I was told "no" each time I asked) and what happened to the Waldorf schools when Hitler came to power in Germany. (FYI, I was told that "Hitler closed the schools immediately." Turns out that is not true, however. Because one of Hitler's top advisors sympathized with anthroposophists and believed the schools had possibilities for indoctrinating children to be "model" German citizens, some schools stayed open until the early 1940s. Weleda, an anthro cosmetic company, apparently also used forced labor from concentration camps to staff their biodynamic farms -- another Steiner invention.) I also spent several hours observing in several elementary and middle school classrooms.

As a parent, however, it later became (gradually) clear that what I had seen was not representative of the school as a whole. (I am not suggesting that the observations were rigged or anything: I am not paranoid! <g> I am saying, however, that it is impossible to get an in-depth understanding of the far reaching effects of anthroposophy on the whole of Waldorf without direct experience and research.) As to my not knowing that Waldorf "discourages" reading before age 7, well, that's true. I had understood that Waldorf DOES NOT PRESSURE OR TRY TO FORCE children under the age of 7 to read .... No one ever, ever mentioned that children who do read, on their own, at a younger age are often made to feel ashamed of doing so, and that their parents are told that they will have "hardening" of their "forces" so that they will develop "sclerosis" later in their lives! I know of one little boy, who, like so many children who do not do well at Waldorf is gifted, who developed the habit of striking himself in the head and saying "Don't think! Don't ask questions! Thoughts are bad!" The teachers at his new, non-Waldorf school asked his parents what the heck happened to him to make him think that thinking was off limits and bad. His parents explained the way he was treated at his Waldorf school -- like something was majorly wrong with him because he had lots of questions and an active interest in something other than fairies!

Isis, you and others here can, of course, choose to believe whatever you want about Waldorf. I chose to believe that Waldorf schools were what they said they were: non-sectarian, progressive, arts based schools that would take into account the (I hate this term, but here goes) the "whole child." (As an aside, what schools would NOT take into account the whole child? The "whole child" has become an obsequious buzz word, imnsho.) Unfortunately, no one in Waldorf saw fit to inform my husband and I that my children's BRAINS and their CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS -- one part of that "whole child," were not allowed into the equation until grade four, at least. (Steiner said that if he had his way, children would not read or write until the age of 14! One Waldorf teacher told me that she would prefer this, too, because such an approach has "spiritual" benefits. But she sadly commented that parents in this "day and age" would never go for that, so teachers just do "what they can" to keep children "pre-literate" for as long as they can.)

You comment that our family's Waldorf experience must not have been so "awful" if it took us six years to twig to the whole system. And as I commented before, my older daughter did have a nice nursery and kindergarten experience. (I still love and admire her teacher, who, perhaps not incidentally, came to Waldorf from a conventional nursery school. This woman was constantly getting into hot water with the more anthro teachers for having books and puzzles in the classroom, and for wearing pants herself to teach in. Women teachers were required to wear dresses or flowing skirts. ) The main reason that it took so long for us to see the whole Waldorf picture is because we *had* been told that it would take until third grade for Waldorf children to reach parity with non-Waldorf children. In other words, we knew and accepted that in first and second grade, things would go more slowly at the Waldorf school. But we were continually assured that by third grade, the Waldorf children would be on par -- and indeed, exceed -- the achievements of the non-Waldorf children. (The term Waldorfians use is "soar ahead." We were told that Waldorf children "reach parity with their non-Waldorf classmates and, indeed, soar ahead at third grade.") Unfortunately, this turned out to be nothing but one of those myths that Waldorf teachers so love. In third -- indeed, also in fourth -- my daughter and her classmates continued to copy all their drawings, all their writings, etc. off the board.

As to my claim that various aspects of anthroposophy promote racism, well, how else should I feel when Waldorf schools in this, the 21st century, sell Steiner books that contain gems such as "blonde hair and blue eyes actually bestow intelligence" on their shelves? Or when my Asian child, noting the teacher's refusal to let her have a black crayon, says "Maybe Miss X doesn't like my hair color? Or when I learn that a Waldorf third grader, studying the story of creation from Genesis, is told that she *must* change Eve's hair from the brown she smudged from various primary colored crayons to yellow, like the teacher's drawing? Or when a parent of my acquaintance is told by Waldorf teachers that she (the mom) should tell her raven-haired daughter a particular fairy tale in which the evil girl has hair "dark as a crow's wing" and the princess, the good one, has golden tresses? An accumulation of such experiences sent me to books by Steiner, where I read even more (to me) disgusting racist drivel, such as Steiner's view that the "black race" is in the "infantile" stage of spiritual development and that the "yellow" race is in the adolescent stage. When I asked Waldorf teachers about this, I was greeted with an uncomfortable silence and a "Well, some of Steiner is difficult." Pushing further, I was told that because I was not an anthroposopher, I "couldn't understand." One young man taking Waldorf training reported that he was told that the anthro view was that the Holocaust "had to happen" because of a certain race's destiny. Even if such nauseating nonsense is not taught in the classroom (and I am not sure it is not!), I certainly do not feel comfortable placing my child in the care of individuals with those belief systems, especially when those same individuals had no problems conveying other of their beliefs (that gnomes and fairies exist, and "good children" can see them, for instance) without my express consent.

One last thing, and I will close. (I am sure most people have not got this far!) Isis, you claim that I have a viewpoint, an "agenda" about Waldorf. Yes, I do. One part of my agenda is to insist that Waldorf schools tell the whole truth to parents looking into the schools (that Waldorf schools are the parochial schools of anthroposophy) and the other part is to urge parents considering Waldorf to read Steiner, to investigate the PLANS web site and to look beneath the surface. Despite your implication, I have nothing against anthroposophy, though I certainly do not believe as anthro. do. I *am* however, against any religion or belief path forcing its ways and tenets upon parents and children without consent, which is what is happening daily at Waldorf schools. (Look at the science taught at Waldorf schools, and this becomes obvious.Waldorf school science is NOT the science agreed upon by the rest of the world, and parents should be told that going in. Each year my daughter was at the school, I asked for a syllabus, a course of study. Because W. students don't study any science until third grade, and because the syllabus said "zoology" and "botany," etc. and did not explain that Waldorf "zoology" and "botany' were very different from that taught in non-Waldorf schools, it took awhile to twig onto this.)

If, after investigating Waldorf thoroughly (and that includes looking at unpleasant critical information such as I and others present on the PLANS Web site) you decide that Waldorf is for your family, that is a success, as far as I am concerned. Waldorf schools have much to offer the children of people who share anthrop's belief systems. But it is a jarring, upsetting and traumatic experience, indeed, to enroll your child in one kind of school (the kind you were told you were enrolling in) and learn, over time, that you are in a completely different place. Everyone ends up hurt -- the child, the family, the school, the whole Waldorf movement.

That does not have to happen. Like Catholic schools (which advertise that they are religious with large crucifixes, talk about values, etc.), Waldorf schools should advertise they are anthroposophical. That way, the "right" parents will enroll and everyone can live happily ever after.

post #55 of 163

I have spent the last 8 years intimately involved with a local Waldorf school, both as a founding family, an involved parent, kindergarten assistant, gradeschool assistant, subsitiute music teacher, volunteer festival coordiator, and child care provider. I have completed one year of Waldorf teacher training- the foundation year in the study of Anthroposophy, (fyi do not consider myself an anthroposophist) and would quite like to finish my training. Currently I am homeschooling two children with a mix of Waldorf priciples and our own family style. My son attends Waldorf homeschool enrichment classes and I continue to volunteer. I am friends with many of the teaches and many of the parents- some of whom have left the school for one reason or another and many more who have stayed.

Do I have personal bones to pick with our particular school? Sure. Do I disaggree with Anthroposophy on key issues? You bet. Do I confront injustice where I see it? Yes!

Do I spend my time making myself miserable about these things? Not worth it.

Obviously you have been hurt and need to be heard, but I would suggest there is a point at which you need to get on a message board that is about what you makes you happy.
post #56 of 163
Please gang. Don't shatter my strongley held belief that women can debate and disagree and NOT GET PERSONAL!

Really I think that all there is to be said about the topic has been said. Now it seems we are moving into personal digs to make our points.

I'm sorry if anyone is offended by my comments here. It's just that I hold in high esteme all of you and your opinions -- while holding on to my right to disagree. Lets leave the nasty stuff to the men -- after all they do it oh, so much better.
post #57 of 163

I think you owe Isis an apology. Your comments were obviously a reply to my post.

post #58 of 163

I did look at the web site you spoke of, and I am wondering which texts are the ones you refered to regarding the racist preferences for blond/ blue eyes and other refences you made?

One thing I know, is that Steiner was brown eyed and had brown hair..

Another thing, is that I have been freinds with and have known Waldorf educated people since childhood. I have also known many teachers. And never have I heard any comments such as you mentioned regarding race or color preference! In fact, several of my Waldorf freinds who were educated in Europe and who now send their children to Waldorf schools have adopted children from Asia, and have them in the schools (happily!). I myself am happy to see intergration in the schools. Mostly because of the costs, intergration doesn't happen so much.

That is changing in the US, as many Waldorf teaching methods are brought to the public schools, etc.. (something that you might not like).

You sound as if you are a very intelligent woman, and you make some excellent points. You also spark alot of thought on the boards, thoughts that many otherwise might not come to. If, as you say, Waldorf schools are not properly informing prospective parents of their teaching methods, and if the parents wish to know more, of the philosophy behind it, then I do feel that you are right, that they should be more forthright.

At the same time, many of us are looking deeply into the Waldorf education methods, such as is being exhibited here on the boards. And you are right, then the match is right if one chooses it (consciously).

I know an elderly man who went to the first Waldorf school (formed after the cigarette factory). He is truly the sweetest, gentlest soul I have ever known! He later went to Emerson College in England to become a teacher. He taught until his retirement, then he lived a long time in a Camphill community teaching woodworking. Now he is a mentor to many, myself included. He was my reintroduction to Waldorf. He embodies the reason I feel that this education is right for my kids. He still holds the innocence of a child combined with great wisdom.

He is not dogmatic, he is open hearted. He is on a continual quest for learning and giving. Such an inspiration!

Anyhow, I realize that the ideal is not always within grasp, but one takes what is offered with gratitude and with an open heart, and if it is not perfect, well.. isn't that what change is about?

Thank you for being a poker in the fire with your views. I am all in favor of throwing out any 'old world' racist thinking, if that is the true case regarding Steiner. I have hope that the many teacher' s present viewpoint is more alternative, and I have met some!

post #59 of 163
Well, we certainly have heard all the gripes about Waldorf education/Anthroposophy. But I would urge people who are intrigued to also look beyond and beneath the criticisms. Not everything one finds on the Internet is truth. And certainly those with agendas will twist “facts” to fit their own view. For balance and a different perspective, please go to the source and let your local Waldorf school speak for itself. Ask about the concerns you have.

Books I would recommend to those interested in learning more about Waldorf education in the early years include Beyond the Rainbow Bridge, You Are Your Child’s First Teacher, At Work and Play in Early Childhood, Children at Play, and Parenting a Path Through Childhood. I am sure there are many others as well.

My dd attends a Waldorf preschool, and I hope that she will be able to have a Waldorf education at least through eighth grade. (I wish that I could re-live my childhood and attend a Waldorf school!) I expect that I will not agree with everything throughout the years of my daughter’s schooling, but even if I were to homeschool exactly as I wanted to, I expect that later there could be regrets. But it this is the richest, most exciting, positive schooling I have found (and I want to share my enthusiasm with others!). I am committed to learning more, being involved, and supporting the school in guiding my dd to realizing her potential.
post #60 of 163

I have struggled through much of what you have written lately as I can sense your feelings of betrayal and the pain you and your children experienced. As I have said before "what is right to many is not right for all" a concept held devotly by Steiner and one that I hold true to my heart. However, as a true Waldorf education believer (not necessarily a anthropod) I have appreciated your comments. They have given me food for thought and the desire to ask more questions as my childrens education goes on. And deffinately the resolve to express my concerns and fight for my children when I feel the need.

In my six years as a Waldorf parent I have never experienced any of the events that you and your children did (other than the absence of the black crayon which I received a completely different explanation. One that suited my soul). Intrestingly enough Waldorf education has been a topic of discussion at the park lately. Today I encouraged a potential mom to explore this posting so she too could have the benefit of knowing what to ask and who to ask. Initially I questioned my sanity in doing so as of course when one believes in someting so much they want others to benefit. But, today I guess my belief that ones truth always prevails superseeded my ego desires.

I pray that you and your family will be able to heal through this journey, let go of the negative influences from your experience, and throughly embrace a truely positive educational experience.


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