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post #21 of 138
Thanks, Embee.

You know how I think? I think that when I am not doing well, that I build up a big backlog of Bad Mama, Bad Partner, etc, and then I have to work harder and harder to try to fix that, and I can't give myself any breaks or gifts because I am in purgatory or debt or something and I have to make up for it all first.

I did not notice this before, so thanks for causing me to go Huh. That sure is a useless way to think.

Lately I can't seem to do very well more than one day in a row. Hoping for easier soon. Thanks for listening and giving me your thoughts. At least I can know I'm not the only one stumbling through.
post #22 of 138
Hi Denise,
I read your message the other day and am just getting the chance to respond. You know what really strikes me is how incredible it is that your son knows how to come to you and express his desire to connect. That is awsome. Notice that and realize that means you are doing something right!!! Celebrate him and celebrate yourself for that!
I've had moments or days where I'm tired, frustrated, not connected, and not sure how to discipline...I've had those thoughts- if I gave her a spanking that would get her attention. I can't stand that I even THINK it. I just wanted you to know you're not alone. Of course, I recommend that we do what we can to look at what's happening for oursleves through personal growth books or breaks or whatever helps...
Take Care!
post #23 of 138
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Originally Posted by Denise K
I think that when I am not doing well, that I build up a big backlog of Bad Mama, Bad Partner, etc, and then I have to work harder and harder to try to fix that, and I can't give myself any breaks or gifts because I am in purgatory or debt or something and I have to make up for it all first.
OH MY GOSH! I can totally relate to this way of thinking. I have often said to people (DH, old boss, for instance) that I feel that people are making "check marks" in their brains when I do something wrong, but fail to see the many more things I do right. DH and I went through a very tough time right after DS was born, and I remember thinking that I got to the point where no amount of making up was going to help. That I had "used up" all my chances because I just couldn't get my head on straight and had said some things in the heat of the moment (ya know, the moment of EXTREME EXHAUSTION???) that could never be taken back...

It's an exhausting way to live until you find out that the people who truly love you, love you no matter what or how *off* of day you've had. Like Cohen says, most problems are caused from disconnection and connection is the only way to emerge from them. OH! But how hard is this some days!?!

Today, I'm having one of "those" days. We're throwing a party for some friends of ours who are moving and these kinds of things always give me a certain amount of anxiety. When I'm anxious NO ONE can reach me. Thankfully, once the time is at hand (that is to say, once the party commences), I can usually relax and my first order of business is to stick close by DS until HE can feel relaxed... man, just a bunch of social-phobes in this house!!!

Hang in there mama!

Em
post #24 of 138
Hiya mamas!

I would like to join you. Just got the book and have started to page though it.
post #25 of 138
Happy Reading AngelBee... you WON'T be disappointed!
post #26 of 138
subscribing...and planning a visit to the library....
post #27 of 138
Jeez, Embee, I could have written that last (longer) post. I thought I was maybe the only freak like me around--thanks for setting me straight. :LOL (not that you are a freak of course)

DS continues to play frequently about "I'm leaving, be sad." And continues with the major separation anxiety. I keep breathing, and trust that he's working through his feelings as best he can. We're going to need some play time to reflect on yesterday, when I went to give a poetry reading (leaving him with DH) and he melted down harder than he has in a long time. Whew. We were both exhausted by the time I got out of the house. BUT reading my poetry and listening to other poets read theirs was a great recharge for my spirit, and boy did I need one.

Here is a tiny piece of play that I found the other day. I was leaving the house (always a rough transition for us, whether he's going with me or not) and had to get ready fast. "Play with me first," he said. Oh, dear, OK, that's a good request but I have to get dressed and find my shoes.... so I said "Oh, I want to play but i have to get ready....here, come with me, let's hop to the bedroom!" and I took him all over the house, holding hands and hopping everywhere. I don't know what it is about hopping, it always makes us giggle. The game made no sense at all but it worked; he even let me leave without getting freaked out. Playing doesn't always have to be a big thing, huh.

Also, DH and I invented something I may not have told you--"Jump ten times and start the day over." You have to explain it liek it's totally magic, and then you have to jump too, counting and saying Higher! higher! And it has to be mutual--"You are whining and I am cranky--I think we need to just start this whole thing fresh." We save this for disaster days (or disaster shopping trips) and it works. I so admire DS's ability to let go this way--he challenges me to let go too, and then we can go ahead and be sane again. For a while.
post #28 of 138
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(not that you are a freak of course)
Oh, Denise... but I am, and I'm proud!

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Here is a tiny piece of play that I found the other day. I was leaving the house (always a rough transition for us, whether he's going with me or not) and had to get ready fast. "Play with me first," he said. Oh, dear, OK, that's a good request but I have to get dressed and find my shoes.... so I said "Oh, I want to play but i have to get ready....here, come with me, let's hop to the bedroom!" and I took him all over the house, holding hands and hopping everywhere. I don't know what it is about hopping, it always makes us giggle. The game made no sense at all but it worked; he even let me leave without getting freaked out. Playing doesn't always have to be a big thing, huh.
Totally! We've Kangaroos all week! It is indeed reassuring to me, that when we're slipping into something ucky, I can often times defuse by merely taking on a silly "out of nowhere" attitude. We had a hard time leaving the store the other day, and I just said, "Ok then, there is only one thing to do! We must run to the car like Comsognathuses, because there's a BIG T-REX RUNNING AFTER US! EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK!"

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Also, DH and I invented something I may not have told you--"Jump ten times and start the day over." You have to explain it liek it's totally magic, and then you have to jump too, counting and saying Higher! higher! And it has to be mutual--"You are whining and I am cranky--I think we need to just start this whole thing fresh." We save this for disaster days (or disaster shopping trips) and it works. I so admire DS's ability to let go this way--he challenges me to let go too, and then we can go ahead and be sane again. For a while.
Ok, I'm going to use this! I wish I'd read this yesterday. I've been sick with a cold all week and this morning DS and I got started off on the wrong foot. He was being really demanding in a, "Get this mommy, get that mommy" sort of way. ugh. I'm fairly easy going, but this morning I really wanted to change the day and set a new tone, but couldn't get out of my head long enough and just got darned grumpy. I love the jumping and starting over. Its super silly and I KNOW DS will appreciate it. What you said about him "challenging you to let go?" This resonates with me, loud and clear!

Have a great weekend. And I don't know how I didn't realize it before... our DS's our exactly 6 months apart. DS just had his half birthday on the fourth which we always recognize for him since his birthday falls so close and tends to get muddled in with the holidays.

Happy belated to your DS!

Regards,
Em
post #29 of 138
Today I got to see play really working for DS and his buddy, K--both 4. They were having a high-conflict day, shovels to the head etc, and K wouldn't let DS swing in his hammock. DS was in tears, which is rare (usually it's K who's in tears). So K's mom talked him into sharing, and I was swinging DS in the hammock. He was loving it, very calm. K was standing off to the side watching, sort of withdrawn. I realized he didn't know how to reconnect. so I asked DS if it was OK for K to help swing him, and then asked K (this was kinda hard--I was afraid of rejection ). Soon K and I were swinging the hammock like some kind of tornado machine, and DS was giggling his head off, and then K had a turn with us swinging him, and it turned into a wonderful happy time together. That fast. They are so amazing.
It was about time for us to leave, and I was so glad we could leave with them feeling good together (and me feeling good too). All they needed was an invitation. I keep being amazed when this stuff actually works :LOL despite all my enthusiasm for it--my mind says we have to talk these things out, and solve the underlying problems, etc--but not really, what they need is to get their relationship feeling good again, and they don't do that by having a discussion.

Thanks, Embee, for (a while back somewhere) saying that when you're all out of sorts with everybody it's a problem of disconnection, and connection is the only way to get back to where you want to be. I needed that rephrase, or restatement--it helps me to follow that connection with DS and DH both, instead of beating the dead horse of a conflict in the hopes that it will resolve. Something like this: I don't have to fix the past (even 5 minutes ago), I just need to tend to the present. How could I connect in the present? And then the past stuff either turns out to be less important than I thought, or at least we're in a better place to deal with it.

"Easy to Love...." has a related concept about accepting reality rather than fighting it, and then choosing what you are going to do with the reality you have. This saves a lot of energy. And if what I do with DS in reality can be playful, boy do we get better off.

Just my ramble for the day. Hope you are all well and playing with your kids.
post #30 of 138
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so I asked DS if it was OK for K to help swing him, and then asked K (this was kinda hard--I was afraid of rejection ). Soon K and I were swinging the hammock like some kind of tornado machine, and DS was giggling his head off, and then K had a turn with us swinging him, and it turned into a wonderful happy time together. That fast. They are so amazing. . . my mind says we have to talk these things out, and solve the underlying problems, etc--but not really, what they need is to get their relationship feeling good again, and they don't do that by having a discussion.
Thanks for sharing, what a great day! Its so hard when they just can't get along isn't it? Sometimes I feel like I'm in a deer in headlights even though I KNOW things I could do to help (Less talk, MORE PLAY!). It really does take courage to jump in as the parent and help the kids play, but its sooooo important. Kids need us to be involved and thats a fact! Kudos to you, mama!

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instead of beating the dead horse of a conflict in the hopes that it will resolve.
I'm beginning to wonder if we weren't separated at birth? DS calls me the *belaborer!* I can dwell and hammer things and keep things alive that just so need to die. I MUST reconcile stuff but what I keep having to learn (over and over ) is that usually its not the issue itself, that if I make a better effort to connect rather than solve, the problem likely will take its proper place in perspective.

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Something like this: I don't have to fix the past (even 5 minutes ago), I just need to tend to the present. How could I connect in the present? And then the past stuff either turns out to be less important than I thought, or at least we're in a better place to deal with it.
Amen, sister.

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Just my ramble for the day. Hope you are all well and playing with your kids.
Doing pretty well over here. Not perfect, but good most of the time. DS is quite frankly VERY unpredicatable these days and I suppose for sometime now. I think its the FOUR thing. Small things can set him off and then again, what I think will be a huge disappointment, he'll totally go with the flow. It's hard to follow and anticipation is so much a part of the better side of my parenting that its been hard to adjust, but its easy to see that the situation itself is NOT the problem however again, something deeper that through connection, yada yada yada...

And there we have my ramble for the day.

The best to all!
mb
post #31 of 138
Today we were in that bind where supper needed to be cooked, but DS wanted me to play, and I'd been putting him off already for a while.... So we built a campfire in the yard and cooked an awesome vegetable stew over it. DS chopped all the zucchini with a butter knife, collected sticks, poured in the lentils, stirred....he said "I am the Chef!" It was so much fun--he got to have all kinds of play going on, and I wasn't tempted to go do something else because my work was right there, cooking supper. Also it is hard to be tempted to go somewhere else other than where the 4 year old with big ideas is standing by a fire. Cohen doesn't mention this approach to keeping yourself engaged during play time, but I bet he just hasn't thought of it yet.

And earlier in the day we had play time involving animals and convertibles, and I was bored to death, and I was just grateful that Cohen was honest about being bored to death--so that I could feel good about giving Ds something he needs even when I'm not having virtuous feelings. People say oh it must be fun staying home with your son and playing all day. :LOL People without kids, of course. But I *am* glad I get to stay home so much, even when it isn't thriling in the moment. If I went off to work I would miss DS saying "the Gulampitous Mower was named by Robert Gulampitous, and has spread to many populations. It is a very popular machine."

Becky Bailey says 4 year olds ask approximately 400 questions a day.
post #32 of 138
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Becky Bailey says 4 year olds ask approximately 400 questions a day.
Yeah, that seems about right. Today favs were: Why can't we touch the sky? If we could touch the sky would it be like touching a ghost and our fingers would go right through? Why can't we feel the Earth moving? How can the Earth spin if its so heavy?

Great cookout story Denise! I love LOVE LOVE the sound of this! Working together, prepping the food, etc. Sounds like my kind of fun!

Life has been complicated at our house these days. DS is just really so very FOUR and a half. Every developmental issue that can happen at this age has, and in grand fashion. I admit, there are days I want to run and hide. But play I do and play is healing. I am impressed by DS though. The stuff HE comes up with is astounds me. The less I focus on how to help him, the more I realize I need only participate when he's figured out a way to help himself. Stories from the saltmine:

Went to the library a few weeks back. They were preparing for some older kids to come in and create a paper dragon puppet for our town parade. DS was VERY interested, but it was clear that the librarian and the person in charge of the dragon were stressed and busy. He stood away from the action, up on a chair to see better and asked the person in charge: "What are you doing?" and sadly, the man blew him off (he mumbled something to DS but DS couldn't understand him and it was clear he didn't care to educate DS on the project). I was heartbroken for DS because I knew it took him a lot just for him to speak up and ask. I immediately got some information from the desk and tried to explain, but I could tell DS was disappointed. Then I walked away to grab our stack of books and the librarian came over to DS (still standing on the chair) and very curtly told him to get his shoes off the chair). DS is terribly sensitive and as she walked away he melted down, embarrassed, disappointed and frustrated. She had every right to ask him to step down, but HOW she did was out of character for our library. I tried to explain to DS that she was probably just having a stessful day, etc., but DS was clearly mortified by the whole experience and went running for the door, tears running down his cheeks, "Why was she so mean?!" I was so upset, I started tearing up too and frankly, was pretty angry about the whole scene. Bad vibes that day I tell ya. Well, we got home and we were both still upset, DS was quiet. I was still fuming and frankly, having a hard time "getting over it" but I kept my own crap to myself aside from empathizing with DS. After we had a snack, DS perked up and then suggested that we make our own paper dragon. He was incredibly motivated toward this end. He started grabbing sheets of butcher paper and some chairs and with some scissors, tape and markers, we did indeed make our own dragon and there it stood as a momunment of therapy in the middle of our living room for an entire week. When it was finished, DS proclaimed: "This is a dragon for little kids and mommies to work on! No big kids and grumpy librarians!" Voila, the incident is healed and released for DS. I didn't tell DS, but Mommy still took a couple more days to "get over it." I was so proud of him! And better, he was clearly proud of himself.

And then,

We've been dealing with some pretty major meltdowns lately over new and exciting stuff. DS has recently begun to enjoy playing board games and he loves them, and doesl get rather creative with the rules. DH and I have been very relaxed about the rules and take his lead but strangely, DS himself is clearly concerned about playing by the rules even when he sees cause to change them--this is our life right now. He seems caught somewhere between his happy, fantasy world and "the facts." Ah, its the very thing emotional growth spurts are made of, eh?

So, we were playing Monopoly. We'd been playing his Junior Monopoly game a ton, and he insisted we play the "real game." I just went with it and tried to make it as simple as possible for him to understand. He INSISTED we "play by the rules" however, and when I stopped to explain something as he asked me to do, he would clearly become frustrated and stressed. He seemed to understand the concepts but I think he just didn't feel a part of the game somehow. *sigh* At one point he just melted down. A full, half hour affair of this whiny, defeated crying to which I was little or no help. I told him that its ok to walk away sometimes and play something else for awhile, I told him I was there for him and tried to hold him but he told me to back off. I tried making the game super silly, which usually helps but this just made him more angry. Finally, it occured to me that he needed to have a good cry about it. He needed to get it all out and so, I just stayed close, told him if he needed a hug that I was there and then, I waited. And waited. When it was over we played a bit more, wrapped up the game and went happily on with our day (after a big hug). One thing I did notice was that no matter how upset he got, he DID NOT use the colorful language he's so loves these days. He did NOT hit or bat at me when I got too close, he used his words to tell me to "back off." So much of our issue lately has seemed to be that DS's intellectual abilities far surpass his emotional abilities and for us, this was actually a huge leap forward. And the fact that he felt better afterward told me that it was a healing cry. One of the BIG CRIES that we all need sometimes. DS is not a meltdown kid but I sometimes wonder if he could use more meltdowns to release some of this hard stuff of growing up brings on.

Fast forward to the next day: DS MAKES his own Monopoly Game. Nevermind that we have two Monopoly games, he wanted to make his own. Drew a board by himself on a big piece of butcher paper (I'm convinced this household would literally fall apart if not for the big roll of butcher paper), all sorts of different squares and such, with different meanings and grabbed little dinosaurs for pieces, etc. He asked me to sit down and play so I did. And now, his own board COULD indeed have his own rules to be dispelled as the game went along at his whim. He was in complete control. Something about playing with his own board helped him feel good about using his own rules (which were great, not slanted in the least and very forgiving--at one point I ran out of money and DS said that the square I landed on entited me to a little extra to stay in the game). It seems when we play with the regular games, he feels torn between wanting to make up new new rules and playing by "their" rules. It's his nature to make things more interesting yet, he senses that changing things isn't OK somehow? We've always been relaxed about this so it definitely something DS is working through within and for himself.

Needless to say, I'm impressed at how he continues to help himself heal from life's upsets, and I'm grateful for being a part of it.

The best,
Em

P.S. Sorry this is sooooo loooooog!
post #33 of 138
Wow, Embee that was a very inspiring post. Over the summer and our summer vacation at the cottage I have not been doing much pp. In fact I forget most of the book and think I am going to take the plunge and buy it from the bookstore so I can read it again. I felt relieved reading your post because my dd is 4 and very sensitive and I've gone through situations like that when a busy and cranky adult will really upset her. I guess I felt relieved seeing how both you and your ds bounced back from that.
post #34 of 138
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"So much of our issue lately has seemed to be that DS's intellectual abilities far surpass his emotional abilities and for us, this was actually a huge leap forward. And the fact that he felt better afterward told me that it was a healing cry. One of the BIG CRIES that we all need sometimes. DS is not a meltdown kid but I sometimes wonder if he could use more meltdowns to release some of this hard stuff of growing up brings on."

(I can't get this quote thing to work--someday I will learn) --Oh, yeah. DS can have a half-hour discussion about starter motors and how they work, but he has no idea how to cope with wanting to cry. I wish he would cry more. Sometimes he seems like a pressure cooker, and he just won't let it out. PP is so good for that, though--it gives him another valve.

Grumpy adults--they make me seethe. Poor kids, they try so hard. I'm so glad your ds found his way out--and that you did too, eventually!

One good game we play is where ds has a racquetball racquet and I have a badminton one, and we have a ball made of wadded paper stuffed into an inflated-and-tied plastic bag. Very unthreatening. I throw the ball so DS can maybe hit it, and he throws it for me, and he gets hundreds of points while I only get 3. This has something to do with the accuracy of the throws...sometimes he help[s me out and gives me extra points, and sometimes he is ruthless and my points start going backwards--but he's very careful to be accurate in counting his own points. The rules think you were talking about, embee, rings true for me but I am not sure why--we don't have any board games around, but this sounds exactly like ds. I think this game lets him practice skills while playing with the whole idea of what a game is. He wants to play it a lot, esp. when we've been cranky with each other.

Today at the library we had to do the thing where we cull our giant stack of "I want it" books down to something I can possibly carry on the bike. I am as bad about this as he is....sometimes the negotiations go on for 20 minutes, and I figure it's good practice...:LOL But today it was so easy, I think because (1) ds had 14 hours of sleep last night , and (2) I made it all dramatic, "Oh, NOOOOO! Look at all these books!" Trying to pick them up, falling over, etc. He giggled like crazy, and we actually managed to get the bag down to about 30 pounds in about 5 minutes. It was so much more fun than being rational and adult.
post #35 of 138
I'm mostly just lurking because DD is a little young (19 months) for a lot of this, but I LOVED the book. It made SO much sense to me. I just think it's genius.

One thing we do do with DD is "acting the fool." She isn't a very physically affectionate child, generally, but one absolutely surefire way to get a big hug from her is to play "chase" and to keep falling down like a buffoon, yelling "OH! I FELL DOWN!" in tones of great alarm. This never fails. It's a great way to get her to leave a place when we need to go, too. "Oh, look! Dada's running! Do you want to chase dada?" "DADA FALL DOWN!" *runs after him*
post #36 of 138
Subscribing. Thanks for this thread and all the good ideas/discussions.
post #37 of 138
I could use some ideas. You know that thing everybody recommends (incl. Cohen) about reflecting back to the child what you see and what need they seem to be expressing? Like, DS screams at DH and me to STOP TALKING, I am supposed to say "It sounds like you are tired of DH and I taking to each other, and would like someone to be playing or talking with you instead. You can say 'excuse me,' and when we stop you can ask if we'll play wiht you." Or somehting.

I am having a couple of problems with this approach. one is that DS hates it. If I say "I can see that this conflict is realy frustrating you," he screams "NO, I'm NOT FRUSTRATED, I'm HAPPY!" and gets even more freaked out. This happens with any kind of attempt to discuss, refer to, or process emotion or conflict that isn't "positive," with me or with his friends. If you keep trying to talk to him he wil start screaming to drown you out.

The other problem is with me. I need to say this stuff out loud. Very verbal, and If I SAY "it looks like to me you are having a rough time," it helps me be way more compassionate. Just thinking it doesn't work. And on the other hand, I am often totaly flummoxed about what need DS IS expressing. What does he need when, after half an hour of play, he starts trying to bite me, scratch me, and scream in my ears? I can't think of a good response to this situation, and maybe this is because I don't get it at all. So, sometimes I need to cue myself by doing the translating thing but it only escalates the situation--and other times I can't find a language to translate from.

So, these are 2 problems with several dimensions, my frustration of the day (week, month)...... but anyway, any reflections would be great. I am doing, often, the connecting and playing stuff--but how to deal with conflicts and attacks....the advice I trust doesn't seem to be working for me.

(What I actualy did about the bite/scratch etc conflict this evening was to yell (DS giggled), put DS in his room (he came out), tell him assertively to stop trying to hurt me (he didn't), and then realize he was out of control and tired and forcibly put him in the bath. DH is minding the tub so I can take a brain break. Surely there is an easier, or anyway more coherent, approach....)
post #38 of 138
Hey Denise,

I can relate to soooo much of what you're saying, and I wish I had some real advice for you. Honestly, I've been fumbling along as of late. DS as well HATES HATES HATES when I tell him what he is feeling. I do feel to a certain extent that emotion coaching is no longer a valid option for us as it was say, at ages 2-3. His "counterwill" kicks in right away and no matter how accurate I am, he's in no position to agree with me much less take advice on how to handle himself with given emotion. Like you said, it just escalates. I do feel this is a good thing long term. He wants to be in charge of his emotions. Earlier it was helpful for parents to give the emotions names, but now at four, he's feels frustrated like anyone else at being told how he feels. It is monumentally difficult for me because like you, I'm very verbal. Not being able to verbally express something and jump right into action takes an incredible amount of restraint on my part and more creativity than I can muster somedays. Alas, I keep trying. For example in the situation you described, I've dropped telling him what he's feeling and simply state how *I* feel and then give information he can use, "It's very frustrating to be yelled at to stop talking because its important for Mommies and Daddies to talk. Please say excuse me and we will do our best to either take a break or wrap up and then, listen to whatever it is that you need to say."

My DS is also quite upredictable these days... like you mentioned, things are happily going along and then suddenly, the aggression just comes out of nowhere. The only thing I seem to be able to do at this point is tell him, "I love playing with you, but I won't let you hurt me." If I'm at my best mommy self, I recognize the need for physical connection and grab some pillows and we get wildly silly. We have actually gotten into the habit of family pillow fights several nights a week. They are especially helpful at the end of one of THOSE days. A few weeks ago, I play verbatim a game Cohen describes in his book called, "School of Pillow Management." It was amazing! It really does seem to address the whole issue of impulse control and learning restraint. Basically, we get a few pillows and I welcome DS to the School of Pillow Management and then start barking out all sorts of complicated orders of where and how to place the pillows. I tell him that the only rule is that he CANNOT under any circumstances bop me. And of course, once I said that, he couldn't think of anything else he'd like better to do! I act all incredulous of course when he does, and the game goes along. Then, we change the game, go over the pillow placement instruction again and this time I say, "the only rule is that you can bop me, but only if you hop on one leg and sing." He LOVES this game and has actually asked to play it when we're having one of those aggressive days... it lightens things, helps him cope somehow and I do feel that he is slowly (3 steps forward 1 step back), learning how to restrain himself.

Well, there my .02 for what its worth. I totally understand the need for a brain break. Yesterday, I was wiping some goo off of DS's face at he smacked me in the face. I nearly went over the edge with it. I told him that Mommy needed a time-out and proceded to remove myself in the room for a spell. I hate withdrawing but it was the only thing I could do to regain my composure... aka, better than saying something I'd regret. Its just plain hard somedays, no?

Hang in there mom!

Em
post #39 of 138
I am new to this board. I just read the Playful Parenting book and am experiencing some highs and lows implementing it with my (just over 3 years old) son.

Highs: He is speaking more, he is telling me more things, I can guess better what goes on in preschool by playing school, we have had some lovely cuddles (even if we were hugging and kissing a lot already before the book) and lots of giggles!

Lows: He has started hitting me(!), something he never did before. He is normally very gentle and careful. He is starting to say "no" all the time and is challenging/provoking me which he did not use to before, at least not in this way or to this extent.

Can it be that he is testing wether the new more playful change is "for real" or have I gone from strict to permissive (too far) and he is feeling unsafe with no authority figure around? Help!
post #40 of 138
May I join in?

PP has helped me and my girls a lot and I hope to learn more here as you Mamas have great ideas! The jump ten times and start the day again is brillant, Denise K!

Elea~ In my experience, my dd started to challenge me more after the three year mark. I think they get braver! :LOL

My 5 year old loves immovable wall and I like it too. She has also invented a game where she erases my memory and I stare at her and say "who are you?" and look shocked when she says that she is my daughter, etc. I am teaching her to watch for her sister's(15 months) face when they are wrestling to make sure she is enjoying the play.

But, a couple days a week my 5 year dd is acting super mean to me. It always happens in the afternoon. She looks and talks and acts, well, mean. Before, I yelled, but that got us nowhere, ofcourse. Now, I just ignore it, but it really hurts me. Any ideas?

How do you all wrestle/ rough play when you don't like it or you're just low energy?
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