I apologize in advance for what will be a LONG post, because there is SO much to respond to!
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Originally Posted by HelloKitty
I'm confused by this statement. I didn't see the thread last night - but from what I understand these were regular members of MDC (many senior?) so one should naturally assume that they support cloth diapers by the very enviro nature of them. So when you say that some might be concerned they don't support "our diapering culture" what does that mean? (Not being snarky, I really want to know.)
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I assume that most MDCers support cloth diapering. What I don’t know is to what degree a given person (who isn’t a Diapering regular) accepts the culture of the Diapering forum, which includes:
Acceptance of whatever kind of diaper system one chooses, be it prefolds, hyena fitteds, whatever.
Deriving pleasure from others’ enthusiasm for diapers, whether that enthusiasm is expressed toward a $50 hyena item or a $2 prefold.
Acceptance of however many or however few diapers one chooses to buy, and however much or however little money one spends on them.
Comforting of those who didn’t get to buy a diaper they really wanted, and congratulations to those who did get to buy a diaper they really wanted.
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Originally Posted by annettemarie
I think of MDC forums as permeable membranes- we should all be able to pass in and out without having to prove ourselves.
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That’s how I think of MDC, too. I’m not saying that anyone who comes into the Diapering forum should have to prove herself. New people come into the Diapering forum all the time without incident. They are welcomed with open arms. All I’m saying is that if you haven’t been in a particular forum for a while, you might not want your first post to be something that could easily be taken as an insult.
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Originally Posted by Pynki
We have plenty of pretty soakers at my house.. But I would never go onto someone's post and say Hey.. What's so special about that diaper..
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That’s not what happened. One of the posters said something like "Ooh, those are rare!" and then someone responded to that statement by asking, "I don’t get it. What’s rare about a prefold and a snappi?" It was not a put-down of prefolds or snappis in any way shape or form. It was a sincere question about what made the pictured item "RARE."
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Originally Posted by annettemarie
I do have a huge problem with it be glorified to the point where it's acceptable to ridicule others for embracing simpler methods.
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Anyone who thinks it’s acceptable in the Diapering forum to ridicule others for embracing simpler methods needs to spend more time there. NO ONE ridicules anyone for embracing simpler methods. I have NEVER seen it happen. Not ONCE. And I have pretty much lived there for the past year.
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Originally Posted by annettemarie
Why would someone who is a "regular" in the diapering forum feel like they had the right to judge someone who is not a regular? Why would they automatically suspect malicious intent? Why not just take it at face value?
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I am not judging anyone. No one "automatically" suspected malicious intent. It was entirely justifiable to question the intent of that thread simply because of the things that were said in that thread and the way they were said. It really did seem insulting. I couldn’t help interpreting it that way, even before I saw who posted it. When I saw that it was posted by people who don’t normally post in Diapering, all that meant was that I couldn’t rule out the possibility that my interpretation was accurate.
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Originally Posted by annettemarie
I never saw that thread, I wasn't part of that thread, and I wasn't responsible for that thread.
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No one is saying you were. You asked why anyone might be suspicious, and those threads are one reason. We aren’t responsible for them either, but we can’t help feeling "once bitten, twice shy." You’ve been implying that snobbery or hostility coming from Diapering is some kind of trend. Apparently, snobbery and hostility directed toward Diapering is a trend.
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Originally Posted by Pynki
TAO has been bashed NUMEROUS times.. We don't assume people "new" to the TAO forum are out to make fun of us..
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As I said, we don’t assume new people are out to make fun of us, either. New people come in all the time and are welcomed and we all get along fine. The particular thread in question really did seem to be insulting.
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Originally Posted by Jumblepuff
Wading through post after post of store stockings and sales and feeling like only unique and expensive options are applaudable and/or praise worthy may keep someone from getting information they need to CD.
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Anyone who feels that the attitude in the Diapering forum is that only unique and expensive diapers are applaudable or praise-worthy clearly hasn’t spent much time there. Information about what you need to CD is shared all the time.
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Originally Posted by annettemarie
It's one thing to say "Is brand XYZ good for night?" or "Are Chubbybums trim?" but another to be promoting buying $300 covers on a board where others might be coming for practical information.
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What is wrong with discussing extraordinary diaper items on a diaper message board? If it isn’t your cup of tea, read the threads that are about simpler options, or post one yourself. No one is making you buy it. Other people might want to buy it, so why not let them discuss it?
Anyway, as far as splitting the diapering forum into 2 groups, how exactly would that work? Suppose someone asked "This is what my baby is like – what diapers would work best for my baby?" (people post questions like that ALL the time). How are we supposed to respond? Well, I think Brand A diaper might work in your situation, as well as brands B and C. There are a few other diapers that I think might work, but I’m afraid I can’t mention them here. You’ll have to come into the other forum and post the same question."
And as far as the overconsumption issue, I will never understand why people pick on, of all people, CLOTH diapering mamas! It is so ironic! Most people use DISPOSABLES! They buy a new diaper for every change! Pick on them, for Pete’s sake! They are supporting chemical companies and Wal-Mart! We are supporting organic cotton farmers and Work At Home Mothers!
: I am embarassed to say that I started one of the mentioned threads from a few months ago.
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I think that may be a good way of seperating it if it is going to be done. I'm still not sure I like the subforums, but its obviously not my decision, LOL.
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