Take a look at this - Page 2

[Gitti]

I have a strange, odd feeling that this link will dry up before too long now since it's on this board.

So, if you want to make a copy, just use "save as" as next poster will suggest. (Trust me, I am psychic.)



Anyway...Wendy Callahan is going to have a link to it on her site:

www.Vaccinetruth.org


ETA -
Kimberly, thanks, I can't believe I did it so backwards.

[Gitti]

Dr. David Onion (question)

when people switched to cynomologous monkeys, and I can see the reason because you can pick up SV40. That's very clear. But how do you know that at the same time, you have not invented a new problem, that you have got another polyoma virus in that species that you are not detecting.

I mean has anyone done redundant PCR to look?

Page 40 This next thing is bejond me

So what can happen here retrovirus-like particles, defective particles being produced from endogenous elements both from EV and EAV-0 family of endogenous elements.

The presence of the RNA and relsconstrictase in a articulate fraction leads one to come to the conclusion that we have retroviral like particles in the CF fluids of the chick cells, which is present in the vaccines measles and mumps.

Dr. Martin Myers: (question)page 46

As I sit and count the number of immunizations that various populations receive with these particles in it, repeated immunizations with it, I wonder if there is any data on sero responsiveness in longitudinal --

Dr. Joerg Schuepbach: Page 47 - 48

We have done two vaccination studies, one with yellow fever vaccines, where about 120 individuals were tested actually for reactive antibodies against HIV. The reason for this was that in 1991, there have been reports that false positive HIV reactions were found in people that have been vaccinated against influenza.

Influenza vaccine is one of the vaccines which contains the EAV.

So we found that statistically significant the vaccinees which have received the vaccine which have the higher content, about 80 times higher than the other vaccine which we used to use too.

That these patients actually had highly significantly levated antibodies to HIV 1 and 2, although none of these actually became sero positive.

The serious bonds was highest in those individuals that also had a history of measles vaccine.

In the second study, this was an influenza vaccine where we tested two different brands, a split vaccine and a rather crude vaccine. We also had a response to HIV bond two in the third generation tests in the vaccine which contained more in the crude vaccine, which contained more of the EAV protein, and again those individuals who had a history of yellow fever vaccination had the highest type, the highest
increases.

We also tested yellow fever vaccinees by PCR, RNA PCR and DNA PCR for EAV-0 sequences. We found one out of 180 individuals in which both these tests were positive as plasma on PBNC. At the moment, we cannot exclude that this was the result of a contamination, but we are working on that. So I think that the matter is actually not as clear as has been presented by others.

I really don't believe Drs. Coffin, Onion, Majors, Myers, or Schuepbach vaccinates themselves nor their kids/grandkids.

JMO

[mamakay]

I'm getting the impression that for every disease we vax for, we're infecting the vaxees with countless unknown pathogens...some that become chronic infections, like HIV, and some that might simply react with other dormant pathogens, causing all manner of immuno-chaos.
I'm still waiting on someone to explain to me how our culturing of flu vaxes with bird eggs, while not screening those cultures for any virus other than the one the vax is being cultured for, will not inevitably create the cross-species viral mutation that really might be the greatest, most lethal pandemic the world has ever seen...

[Gitti]

Did you ask your doctor?

[mattemma04]

I am so glad for the internet.How I wish I had had this much access to information(and views) on so many topics as a young adult.

[Gitti]

BTW, "did you ask your doctor?" was meant sort of derogatory towards the medical profession.

Yes, I agree as to the Internet. I hope there is no way to censor it ever. Even though there are many things that IMO should be restricted, but then many believe our boards should not exists. So there would be no end to that.

[mamakay]

Originally Posted by Gitti

BTW, "did you ask your doctor?" was meant sort of derogatory towards the medical profession.

Yes, I agree as to the Internet. I hope there is no way to censor it ever. Even though there are many things that IMO should be restricted, but then many believe our boards should not exists. So there would be no end to that.

I'm still over why the FDA decided to publish this on the web in the first place.
I'm wondering if it might have been an accident?

[codysmom]

even more scarey when they tell you oh the risks far out way the benifits and then your child is dxed autistic and mercury positive
btw guys the MMR shot i beleave is cultured on human fetal tissue

[Gitti]

Originally Posted by mamakay

I'm still over why the FDA decided to publish this on the web in the first place.
I'm wondering if it might have been an accident?

This was not actually meant to be published. They kept minutes and posted it but didn't think anyone would ever find it.

If you know where to look, just about everything can be found on the Internet, but some information is buried in folders inside of folders etc. etc.

Just like Tracy said about the MMWR reports. She had to call up to get the address as to where to find it.

BTW, this link was sent to me via e-mail. I did not find it myself.

[onlyboys]

Dear Lord, that's scary.

Thanks for posting this.

[pwit]

bump

[cjuniverse]

Bump.

[pwit]

http://www.fda.gov/cber/minutes/0910evolv.txt

Ladies you can see more minutes from this workshop if you will change the numbers in the link 0910 refers to the minutes from sept 10th change the numbers to 0907, 0908, 0909 to get the minutes from the rest of the days

[Tracy]

has anyone googled the speakers to see what they are up to now?

[Peppermint]

:

[Momtezuma Tuatara]

Originally Posted by pwit

http://www.fda.gov/cber/minutes/0910evolv.txt

Ladies you can see more minutes from this workshop if you will change the numbers in the link 0910 refers to the minutes from sept 10th change the numbers to 0907, 0908, 0909 to get the minutes from the rest of the days

I've also tried lots of other combinations as well, working on dates of other conferences, but with no further success.

Tracy, many scientists have left the field because they can't live with what they know. That is to the advantage of the system, because the new people have no institutional memory, and can't raise awkward questions.

the oldies who do stay, who do have institutional memories, know to keep their mouths shut.

There are many many secrets that have "died" with the old boys network. I happen to know some of them, because I was able to talk to some of the old boys, but there is nothing I can do with the information I know, because by its very nature its unproveable, and because it was told to me, when I talk about it, its second hand, anecdotal, and the person who said it is no longer around to be held to account.

I believe one day, certain people WILL be held to account, and I would like to book a front row seat to the procedings, please God.

I promise to keep my mouth shut.

[~member~]

Originally Posted by Tracy

has anyone googled the speakers to see what they are up to now?

Dr.Martin Myers

He is developing a program to make vaccines more available.

Dr.Jörg Schüpbach
Some kind of project leader for HIV study...

[Luminosea]

This is totally disgusting!
It is like they are creating more disease so they can come up with more vaccines, which in turn creates more disease, and on and on...

[~member~]

Originally Posted by Luminosea

This is totally disgusting!
It is like they are creating more disease so they can come up with more vaccines, which in turn creates more disease, and on and on...

The perfect way to get wealthy! Why didn't I think of that? Oh, yeah, because I actually have morals.

[Gitti]

Originally Posted by Luminosea

This is totally disgusting!
It is like they are creating more disease so they can come up with more vaccines, which in turn creates more disease, and on
on and on...

That is the purpose of it all.

They are creating more disease so they can come up with more vaccines, which in turn creates more disease, and sells more drugs.

The global-military-medical-banking-petrol-pharmaceutical-cartel makes money from disease and sickness.

THEY DO NOT MAKE MONEY FROM HEALTHY PEOPLE.