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post #21 of 114
Are you early feelers skinny minnies? Cause I'm a bit fluffy, and I wondered if the extra padding would make a difference.

I have been having terrible dreams too. A week ago, they were good, happy dreams, but for the past few nights, they have been not good dreams. I won't go into detail here, but yeah, not good. I think it's my anxieties about having a child and birthing, though. Once they get worked out, I think I'll be alright.

Does anyone else feel this way? I have wanted a baby so badly, and for so long, and now, I feel very, "eh" about it. Like I could take it or leave it. I mean, I DO want my baby, but maybe it's that it still doesn't really feel like I'm having a baby? I feel so horrible for feeling like this!
post #22 of 114
Thread Starter 
Hello Folkymom! I'm in for the bad dreams, too. Actually I haven't had any this week. So, maybe I'm not totally in! But, last week were some doozies! I hope they stopped.

I've been feeling this baby, too. In fact, I was thinking it was *probably* it earlier. But last night FOR SURE it was the baby. I was laying awake (yes homonal insomnia here) and I was envisioning a wonderful UC birth (mine, I like to think of how it might happen without actually DEMANDING that it turn out that way) and as I was envisioning pushing out the baby and putting my hands down to feel its wrinkle head begin to emergy KICK! Like a whole body thud. It was certainly the baby! How cool! Nice timing, too!

Persephone, with my first, I didn't feel him until I was further along. It's pretty typical with subsequent pregnancies that you feel the baby sooner. It's kind of like you konw what to feel for. I do think fluffy has something to do with feeling less movement. It seems so for some women, but not for others. I think placenta placement affects movement more though. If its in the front, you're less likely to feel the kicks.

I think I just got out of the "Ah, so what a baby." phase. That's when it clicked in... oh yeah! I get to have a baby!!!
post #23 of 114
I've felt movement and I'm not quite in my second trimester yet... I'm quite thin. About 105lbs soaking wet. :LOL
post #24 of 114
I'm definitely not a skinny minnie!! LOL! I started this pregnancy about 15 pounds overweight, most of it centered right at my belly - I swear I already looked 6 months pregnant before I even conceived! I did think it would take longer to feel through all the extra flab, but I guess that wasn't a factor.

I don't feel like my dreams are really related to baby-fears - I've tried to figure it all out, but they really have no connection to much of anything, even each other. Just disturbing and oftentimes very violent. I think it's just wacky hormones! (this happens PMS sometimes too.)

And I'm not feeling ambivalent, either - I can't WAIT to meet this baby! I hardly know how I can wait another 25 weeks! Seems like FOREVER!!! :LOL

Arora, so cool that you got that big kick!
(soon we'll all be complaining about how the kicks never stop and we can't get any rest, lol)
post #25 of 114

Fundal height?

Oh, another question - I could make a new topic, but I'll just keep it in this Nov/Dec/Jan thread - for those of you around 15 weeks or so, where is your fundus? In the week-by-week update one of those baby sites sends out, it says the uterus is just barely popping out above the pubic bone right now, but mine is up at/above my belly button. I'm assuming this is because it's a third baby - anyone else like this?
post #26 of 114
I'm due in the beginning of December. This is my first pregnancy and I'm totally committed to UC. Dh was pretty shakey on the idea at first, but I've been reading him UC birth stories every night before bed for the last week or so and he's so excited now! He loves hearing them.

I'm so jealous of all of you who are feeling the baby already. I'm 13w3d and I haven't even tried to start feeling movement yet. I had no idea it was really possible this early. Now I'm inspired to do some meditating and concentrate really hard.

I got a blood pressure cuff and a fetoscope in the mail the other day. Dh is obsessed with the fetoscope. I told him he wouldn't be able to hear anything for at least another month but he makes me lay down so he can check every night. He's so cute!

About the dreams...I've only had one so far, but it was so disturbing I woke up and cried for 15 minutes. I hope those don't happen too often.

The only thing I'm kinda worrying about at this point is rhogam. I just found out dh is Rh+ (I'm neg) and I'm debating on whether I will want the shot after birth or not and if so how to get it. What a pain! I'm really hoping the baby turns out to be neg as well so I won't have to worry about it.

I'm really glad there is such a tribe of UC mamas giving birth around the same time! I look forward to all of your insight.

Amy
post #27 of 114
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Originally Posted by folkymom
Oh, another question - I could make a new topic, but I'll just keep it in this Nov/Dec/Jan thread - for those of you around 15 weeks or so, where is your fundus? In the week-by-week update one of those baby sites sends out, it says the uterus is just barely popping out above the pubic bone right now, but mine is up at/above my belly button. I'm assuming this is because it's a third baby - anyone else like this?
Actually, I was wondering about my fundus too. I'm only 13.5 weeks, but my belly pops quite a bit. I haven't been able to feel where my fundus is though. How do you do this and what does it feel like? I've been feeling around just above my pubic bone. I've even laid on my stomach with my hands under me. I'm a little afraid of pushing too hard.

Also, when can you feel the baby move from the outside, generally? Dh keeps asking when he'll be able to feel the baby kick, but I have no idea. I just tell him I think that's a ways off.
post #28 of 114
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Originally Posted by Viriditas
The only thing I'm kinda worrying about at this point is rhogam. I just found out dh is Rh+ (I'm neg) and I'm debating on whether I will want the shot after birth or not and if so how to get it. What a pain! I'm really hoping the baby turns out to be neg as well so I won't have to worry about it.
RhoGam is such a hot topic in my mind. You mention it and it's like lightening goes off in my brain! :LOL Kind of like if you were at the mall and someone mentioned lovingly Unassisted Birth... your head would spin around and you'd HAVE to talk to them.

I'm Rh- and my DH is Rh+. All of our kids so far are Rh+. I made a very informed decision to not take RhoGam at 20 weeks nor to take it after birth. Before RhoGam Rh sensitivity wasn't a problem until birth got medicalized. If left to nature, blood of the baby and mother do not mix, except in very rare cases that are pretty obvious. Being Rh- with a Rh+ partner, there are certain steps we make sure are followed during birth. After the baby is born, we do not clamp the cord at any point. There is no pulling on the cord. We wait patiently for the placenta to detach. We do not rush this process, even if it takes a very long time. Of course one the placenta is delivered, clamp that cord all you want to, but just not before the placenta is delivered. The research behind this indicates that clamping the cord unnaturally forces the infant's blood up to the placenta thus increasing chances of maternal/infant blood mixing. Pulling on the cord again, forcefully sends blood back to the placenta. Forcing the placenta to come out sooner than intended also increases the risk of mixing bloods.

RhoGam used to only be recommended after birth. But, women continued to get sensitized. So, then they instiutited the RhoGam at 20 weeks rule. And, yet women are still getting sensitised in a hospital setting despite 2 doses of RhoGam. Could this be because hospital routines clamp the cord, pull on the cord and rush placenta delivery? Um... I say yes!

Oh, and I should note, I'm not sensitized to Rh+ blood... even though I've never had RhoGam... and I'm not some miracle woman. There are many others like me!

Ok, off my soap box. Of course... study the information and do what your heart tells you to do.

Wow, so our Nov/Dec/Jan group is big! How cool. I know a lot are exploring UC options. And, that's wonderful. In my own mind, I try to figure out how to get all that I want... what does my perfect UC look like? What does my reality UC look like? What steps am I taking/going to take to protect my UC? Etc.

Oh, and I don't pay much attention to fundus. I mean, it's fun and all, but I always just measure huge. So, I don't give it much credit. (In fact, with BOTH of my pregancies my MW was certain I was having twins, I was so large) This time, I'm ignoring fundus for anything other than novelty fun.

So nice getting to know you all!
post #29 of 114
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Originally Posted by Arora The Explorer
Oh, and I don't pay much attention to fundus. I mean, it's fun and all, but I always just measure huge. So, I don't give it much credit. This time, I'm ignoring fundus for anything other than novelty fun.
LOL - MY husband just chastised me for this. He said, "Quit obsessing - if we wanted all that worrying we would hire someone to do it for us!"

So you're right - it doesn't matter!! :LOL
post #30 of 114
Fundus for Fun and Novelty.

I'm almost in my second trimester (or at the beginning of it, definitions seem to vary from 12 to 14 weeks) and I can feel my fundus above my pubic bone. Apparently though, my uterus is strangely shaped and positioned. It's high and tilted forward, and my past pregnancy didn't correct it.
post #31 of 114

Waving to the others..

Carrie, 2nd UC planned for mid Jan so I'll probably be there to cheer all of you on until my turn comes. This will be our fifth, and last.
post #32 of 114
Hi everyone. My name is Shannon and I am due at the begining of December. I was initially planning a hospital waterbirth with the midwife who delivered my son, but I am now strongly considering UC. I just hate fighting hospital policy. I am kind of planning two births, the UC for if everything goes well, or the hosptial induction for if Pre-E reccurs. I hope you don't mind if I hang around and try to learn some more from all of you. I don't know what will happen with this birth, but I want to be as prepared as I can be.
post #33 of 114
I'm here!

Planning my 1st UBAC, 4th child living. I am expecting a birth day around the first week of December... I am also doing an instinctual prenatal period, as well. I just don't want anyone near my baby, ya know?!

My, there ARE many of us here!! Good to "meet" you all!
post #34 of 114
hey Kynd mama is this instinctual prenatal period the same as UP or having no prenatals?

fed up with the system
post #35 of 114
Thread Starter 
Hello to Carrie, Shannon & Angelina!

Shannon, I think the reason the early pregnancy thread is nice, is because there are now 3 of you exploring UC and gathering information. that you can avoid PreE. I know that there are some preventions methods, but I can't for the life of me recall them. Have you read about them? Found them credible?

Carrie, you sure you don't want to go for an even number? I keep thinking I might need a fourth. :LOL And, I'm wondering what instinctual prenatal period is, too. I'm imagining the same thing as you.

So, Angelina, spill the beans... instinctual prenatal period? no prenatals?

I haven;t had any prenatals (I'm due Dec 10) and i could see myself going without any from a health care provider. I do have a tenative July "maybe we'll get together" with the MW I used for my two homebirths. I might just go and chat with her if I have any questions I need more info on.
post #36 of 114
:LOL okay... I'll spill....

Instinctual prenatal is yes, no outside "care" from others. I don't actually like the term "unassisted" when referring to prenatals or birth. It's kinda the same as I don't like the term "un-circumsiced".... to me, it makes it sound as if you're doing something UN-normal. Ya know what I mean?

So in a nutshell, I'm using my instincts again to care for my body and that of my tiny babe, and when hir birth day arrives, I will depend on them again to ease into the "best" birth scenario.

I guess I like the word "instinctual" all together! :LOL That's also how I refer to my parenting style, too. I don't really like using "attachment" parenting, as that seems like some kind of regulated and mandated thing. I like to look to nature to find the "norm", instead of manuals, books, opinion, and CERTAINLY not the insane medicos!!!

I hope you're all feeling well!! I keep getting my icky tummy again, cause I'm finding it difficult to remember to keep shoving food in my face constantly!!

Enjoy your day, mamas!!
post #37 of 114
Arora, In my case the pre-e was actually caused by ds's placenta deteriorating when I went over due. I am hoping to avoid that this time. I have read about the Brewer diet, and his theories are very interesting. I tried it with my last pregnancy and wound up incredibly sick though. I just can't eat that many eggs. :LOL I am trying to eat well, lots of veggies and protein and stay active. That is the best plan I have seen so far for avoiding pre-e. I know that one of the biggest risk factors for pre-e is having had it in the past. So I am getting prenatal care just in case.
post #38 of 114
Iris, I don't put much faith in the Brewer diet. Mostly because while looking around the site, I realized they are religious fanatics. Seems too cultish to me, and also, I've read that vegans have a lower rate of pre-e than the general population, and they aren't gorging on cow's breastmilk and eggs all day long! I think getting plenty of protein (60g) and lots of fruits and veggies is all that's necessary for a healthy pregnancy diet. And of course, no McDonald's or candy bars for dinner.
post #39 of 114
im due in november.. im not decided but i love the idea of doing a UC.. my son was born at home and my midwife was very much hands off.. i feel like i can do it, but i also love my midwife (i have the same one this time around) so i guess ill see
post #40 of 114
Thread Starter 
Welcome MamaFern! We have lots of explorers of UC here on this thread. Now, when you say you love your midwife, what do you mean by that? Do you get together quite often?

Angelina, thanks for the beans! I totally get what you mean about un-circ and un-assisted. Makes the circ and the assisted normal and us the abnormal!

Shannon, yeah the Brewers diet totally turns me off. And, Mandy, I didn't know about it being so faith based. My whole being revolts against the Brewers diet. Maybe it's because I'm vegearian and the idea of doing ALL that food just seems so much overkill. Also... I really don't think I was meant to grow gigantic babies that so many claim to have made on the Brewers Diet.
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