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post #81 of 114
7/8/05 at 9:54pm
Uh-oh... I just called my mom, and she asked if I had gotten a midwife yet. "No...." "Well, you NEED to do that soon, honey!" "Oh, don't worry mom...." Gosh, what am I going to tell her? I can't lie to her, I'm no good at lying. They're ok with the homebirth idea, but my mom is so scared of birth because she lost her first, I was induced, and my brother was an emergency csection that she has no trust in the process at all. Maybe I can ask a midwife to be my "advisor", and just tell my mom that's my midwife...

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post #82 of 114
7/8/05 at 9:55pm
Pre-eclampsia can be prevented. Have you seen the BlueRibbonbaby.com website? it is Dr. Tom Brewer's nutritional website, and he developed the program to virtually eliminate pre-eclampsia and other disorders in the low income populations he was working with. Following his nutritional guidelines and eating enough protien is the key....Also Adelle Davis's Let's have Healthy Children....I have a friend who had full term 7 lb twins vaginally by using her guidelines, and that was 1978!
post #83 of 114
7/9/05 at 5:37am
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Originally Posted by Persephone
Uh-oh... I just called my mom, and she asked if I had gotten a midwife yet. "No...." "Well, you NEED to do that soon, honey!" "Oh, don't worry mom...." Gosh, what am I going to tell her? I can't lie to her, I'm no good at lying. They're ok with the homebirth idea, but my mom is so scared of birth because she lost her first, I was induced, and my brother was an emergency csection that she has no trust in the process at all. Maybe I can ask a midwife to be my "advisor", and just tell my mom that's my midwife...

Hey, there are midwives here on MDC.. so technically you have quite a few of them. :LOL

COMPLETELy understand your situation. I'm there with my step-mom, and I am SO happy she lives in another country. I tell her that I see my midwives regularly and everything is going great. HTH. (cause, hey, I check onto MDC every morning, )
post #84 of 114
7/12/05 at 1:13am

She's Gone!!!

Mother in law I mean. she was here, for 2 days less then a month. i barely made it.

Upon hearing we were expecting again (dh told her in private, to spare me her possible histronics) she VOLUNTEERED to move in for the entire month, so that the kids "wouldn't be afraid or grossed out by your screaming" I nearly died right there. She also bought me lots of second hand maternity SHORTS (I don't wear shorts, ever) and then said she's take them to her daughter because the looked to SMALL for me. I was seething by the time she left and as soon as she settles down from her next trip (a month with SIL) I'll have to set her straight. Too bad she'll also be here in Aug, Oct and early Dec. LOL she also suggested we plan to have CHRISTMAS early so it could co-inside with her visit. (do we have an eyes popping out icon here???) I know I sound pissy, but I'm not...I'm LMAO at the pure...(what would you call it balls? audacity? pompacity??) of the woman! how she spawned such an easy going, carefree man as dh I'll NEVER KNOW

Anyhow, just thought I'd entertain you with my story. Dh is home with my shebert so I'm on a mission now!!

post #85 of 114
7/12/05 at 8:12am
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Originally Posted by cathicog
...I have a friend who had full term 7 lb twins vaginally by using her guidelines, and that was 1978!
One of my good friends had her twins at home, both were over 8lbs... she ate a whole lotta protein!

For the most part I agree with you on the Brewer diet thing. Its not a magic bullet (if you are having toxemia issues due to clotting or immune issues, you need more then this) but for the vast majority of women, it is excellent for insuring a healthy pregnancy. I followed it (well, mostly ) for both pregnancies, and had no toxemic issues. Ds was even born in the caul, and had a beautiful placenta at 42w.
post #86 of 114
7/12/05 at 11:44pm
I know a number of women who took prenatal vits, and still ended up with babies with neural tube defect. So taking it doesn't guarantee health, and not taking it doesn't guarantee defectiveness....Sounds like a good diet you are eating, so I wouldn't worry too much...
post #87 of 114
7/12/05 at 11:51pm
Or you can tell her to leave you alone. My mom thought I was nuts to have a homebirht, but I explained to her(and my dad) that I had done my research and this was the best option for the best health of the baby and me. And they left me alone after that... But if you can find a midwife who will work with you that way, that would be great. maybe you can get her to take your bp, fundal height and weight and call it a prenatal(even if you aren't going to use her)...then you can tell your mom you are under mw care....congrats, btw
post #88 of 114
7/14/05 at 9:48am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Persephone
Uh-oh... I just called my mom, and she asked if I had gotten a midwife yet. "No...." "Well, you NEED to do that soon, honey!" "Oh, don't worry mom...." Gosh, what am I going to tell her? I can't lie to her, I'm no good at lying. They're ok with the homebirth idea, but my mom is so scared of birth because she lost her first, I was induced, and my brother was an emergency csection that she has no trust in the process at all. Maybe I can ask a midwife to be my "advisor", and just tell my mom that's my midwife...
Pamamidwife here at MDC is a real supporter of UC. You could PM her and ask if she could be your advisor (define what you mean by that... just a title unless you want her advice or send her money for regular phone consultations). She's in Oregon but I don't think that really matters!!! She can still be your MW!
post #89 of 114
7/14/05 at 10:03am
Thread Starter 
New Mamas -- Welcome! Looking forward to getting to know you all!

Brewer's Diet -- There's some controversy over this one that I don't know a lot about, but it's soemthing about his religious tendencies and growing mondo babies. Letting my gut/heart/intuition/waterever you want to call it lead my own diet has worked best for me thus far, so I'm sticking to listening to myself here. I've had rather long "pushing phases" with my other children and they were close to 7 lbs. I also have a strong NO NO NO aversion to those high protein diets that seem to have big babies (Bradley Diet, Brewers, Etc). I think my body grows babies in the 7 lb range because that's the best size for me and them.

I ran into the MW I used for my other birth at the book store yesterday. Clearly I'm pregnant at this point as I'm pushing the mid-pregnancy marker. I had called her earlier to tell her that I was pregnant and that I wanted to make an appt in July with her. So, it's funny that we ran into each other out of the blue in July! :LOL We just chatted about the state of midwifery in our MW rich town and about our lives. I did set up an appt with her for later in the month. I don't want any measuring or anything, but just to talk about how I see a MW assisting in my pregnancy and afterbirth care. I know what I want, now I need to be direct with her and see if she's willing to support me in this way.

B-H Ctx are in full swing here. I've been getting them since 18 weeks and now they're a very regular occurrence. My uterus always like to contract quite a bit, so this is normal pregnancy indications for me.

Wishing you all a wonderful day! Oh, and I'm going to change the title of our thread if that's ok? Since the other group is Summer/Fall shall we be winter???
post #90 of 114
7/14/05 at 12:52pm

our baby died

I am sorry I will be leaving. I miscarried at 15 wks yesterday.

I will post my story at Pregnancy Loss.

Be well mommas and have peaceful estatic joyful births!

Lisa
post #91 of 114
7/14/05 at 8:11pm
I don't believe I have ever posted in this board before. We are expecting baby #4, we had a home waterbirth last time and are planning another home waterbirth this time. I wasn't too sure on unassisted to begin with but when all midwives I contacted in the province declined me (because of distance) I decided to just still go ahead with a homebirth again. My midwife (from my 3rd) and I have talked a bit about what the expect and we will talk more on the phone as time passes.

Anyway, thought I would say hi.
post #92 of 114
7/14/05 at 9:11pm
Sorry, I didn't mean to post!

Wishing you all a happy pregnancy & wonderful birth!
post #93 of 114
7/14/05 at 9:13pm
Thread Starter 


Lisa, I wish you peace and time for healing. I'm so sorry that your sweet babe passed on. You will be in my thoughts. Much love and peace to you.
post #94 of 114
7/14/05 at 9:34pm
Lisa, I"m sorry.

I wanted to say good luck to all the ladies here, but I have decided to pursue finding a midwife in earnest. I talked it over with a friend, and she basically said the same thing that I was thinking, that if I didn't feel 100% for UC, that I shouldn't do it. I bet I'll do it for the next one though, so expect me back in a couple years!
post #95 of 114
7/14/05 at 10:59pm
Thread Starter 
Persephone, way to follow your heart. That's always always the best thing to follow. May you have a wonderful birth and feel empowered by motherhood! Please, don't feel like you can't hang here though! You never know, you may decide not to call the MW. It happens. Hope you find just the right person to assist you with your pregnancy and birth should you decide.

Brandy! Welcome! Sorry, I didnt' see your post before. Glad to have you here. Looking forward to learning from you.
post #96 of 114
7/18/05 at 12:53am
You all are going to laugh at me, or roll your eyes, or both. But now that I've decided to find a midwife (there's one I really like, and one I'm pretty sure I won't like), I feel so great about the birth and the baby and my body that I feel like I could go UC if I wanted to!... Perhaps this is a sign that I *should* continue on the midwife path... Oh, I'm such a geek!
post #97 of 114
7/20/05 at 12:36am
Thread Starter 
Persephone, I always try to listen to that "feel so great" emotion. I know I've hit on something good when I find that. Something must be working for you. Remember, there are many colors of the rainbow and many shades of UC. Finding the color that suits you and your family best is what really counts, not the definition of words.
post #98 of 114
7/21/05 at 3:08pm

checking in...

persehone: it's ok. still hang out here though, as we change our minds so frequently while pregnant!!

recall I was feeling great with UP/UC? now I've got a mw and have seen her once already :LOL I'm no longer making declarations about how birth will be I imagine it will be UC, and FAST as that's all my imagination can bring up at this point. I'm just waiting to find out. I'd like the mw to file the bc, and collect as much as she wants from my insurance company. I'd like her to party with us over our newest baby, but I really don't want her presence for labor or birthing.

Oh and I agree about the brewer diet. I have no problem with it, if thats the way you'd like to eat. I don't think it makes babies big, either. But it has no real science backing it up AND it's way too much food!! It's unnatural eating, if you're doing it just because your mw or a book told you to...and you don't like or want those foods.... ah well, time to get busy with the rest of the day. I say it's fine (brewer) if you crave and your baby is asking for that. Its fine as a control IF you have previously had HBP and think it would help. ButI'm partial to doing what makes you happiest durring pregnany and if thats ice cream for breakfast and a beansalad for lunch, so be it.

My babies have all bee around the 8.5-9lb mark, I think thats perfect for me.

on another board there was a discussion that would make you ladies SICK! They were toting the benefits of c-sections!! Now, I know there are some benefits...but they were all agreeing (and I'm imagining them sitting around in size 1 capris, with their nails done drinking diet cokes planning their boob jobs) that natural birth is not only "gross and messy and painful" but it CAUSES sexual problems later in life, ROTFL. if anything I think birth IMPROVES your sex life (confidence, comfort and power to get what you need or want) so I said so. So then they started a pool and they were unanimous in agreeing that it is DISTURBING to think of sex and birth as related. I mean, I do live on the same planet with these women. I watch the same tv shows and vote and everything so how can their ideals be so alien to me?? anyone, I thought it was fun/funny and interesting.

have a good afternoon. anyone have name lists to share?
post #99 of 114
7/21/05 at 3:28pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rockies5
So then they started a pool and they were unanimous in agreeing that it is DISTURBING to think of sex and birth as related.
How the hell do they think those babies get in there??

What whackos.

I just finished reading Moran's "Pleasurable Husband/Wife Childbirth" and loved it (well, the 1st, non-religious half). I felt so guilty for having a midwife catch my first after reading it - how emasculating for our men to have us turn to someone else during this time. My own dh said he felt so disempowered and useless after her birth (which is why we changed things the 2nd time around, and caught our son ourselves). No wonder all these hospital/elective c-section marriages are so screwed up.
post #100 of 114
7/21/05 at 4:51pm

Please remove me from Winter u/c thread

Hi!

Please remove me from this thread. I miscarried so I don't follow these posts much anymore. I keep getting new posts from Persephone in my e-mail box. So, I guess I'll just delete them for now. I am so glad I was able to follow what you all were up to for a little while anyway. My unsolicited advice: always have a trusted emergency contact.

Be well,

Lisa
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