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post #221 of 339
Hi! It's mommamiagal. Maybe you have read some of my posts. I am agonizing over having a c section, and I wonder if you can somehow help me through this. How do I get over my fear? Can you tell me step by step what happens. How long are you hooked up to all of the IV's and catheter after the birth? Isn't it hard to breastfeed like that? Also, I am so sad about leaving my 2 year old for 3 days.How can I bring back some joy to this birth, I went on a hospital tour tonight and it really depressed me..now I know why I had my last two at home. Thank you. I will really appreciate it! Maria
post #222 of 339
I'm still here...nothing's really changed. The doctor said yesterday that it looks as though baby's head is "beginning to engage" - I guess that means it's dropped a little bit.

I still haven't had any definite labour pains, but the mild cramps haven't gone away, so I'm optimistic...somewhat. :LOL Other than that, my only good signs are that baby and I aren't growing much now, and I've started producing a lot of mucus-y discharge (sorry if that's TMI). Fingers are crossed!

Today is my actual due date (I screwed up in my signature), and it feels weird to be at that point. I think I'm the first woman in my family to ever actually carry 40 weeks! Emma is driving me mad...can't keep up with her and she keeps tearing her diaper off, and I have to get it back on, which is hard when getting up and down has become so difficult. I'm terribly tired, and don't seem to be experiencing any of those famous "bursts of energy" (nesting) - I wonder if that's a good sign, a bad sign or totally meaningless...

I still think/hope this baby will come soon, and I kind of hope it's tomorrow, as both my doctors will be available for the hospital tomorrow. Anytime this weekend, I'll get my OB, which means if it went to section, it would be the surgeon I want - best of both worlds.
post #223 of 339
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Originally Posted by mommamiagal
Hi! It's mommamiagal. Maybe you have read some of my posts. I am agonizing over having a c section, and I wonder if you can somehow help me through this. How do I get over my fear? Can you tell me step by step what happens. How long are you hooked up to all of the IV's and catheter after the birth? Isn't it hard to breastfeed like that? Also, I am so sad about leaving my 2 year old for 3 days.How can I bring back some joy to this birth, I went on a hospital tour tonight and it really depressed me..now I know why I had my last two at home. Thank you. I will really appreciate it! Maria

Hi Maria
There is a good white paper on the ICAN site that details a c/s step by step.. I could look it up for you if you would like..

I think the length of time you are on IVs etc really depends on the hospital and your Dr, have you discussed any of this with your OB?

I have had 2 c/s.. neither were planned... but with my second c/s, I prepared myself that it might happen and I had a list of requests ready to go.. in case.. It really helped me feel more in control of the situation and also allowed me to feel more like I was a participant rather than just a body on a table..

We requested to bring a camera into the OR and that the OB tell us when they were ready to remove my DD so my DH could take photos. I really cherish those pictures of my daughter being born.

We had asked if DH could cut the cord, however due to the situation, he was unable to do so.

My baby was worked on near my head so I could see and hear what was going on as they revived her.

My doula was able to be at the door of the OR while we were there and when DH went with DD, she was able to be a relay between him and I

I was able to hold and touch my daughter on the operating table.

These things really made a big difference to me. It also helped we had a very good birth center who was willing to grant our requests.

I had my IV from about 11pm until 8 am.. but I had my catheter for 4 days.. due to a cut bladder during surgery..That was no fun..

A recent article in the Lancet speaks of 2 ladies who had a c/s. One was planned one was not. In both cases the babies were kept with the mother and both recovered in their own rooms instead of recovery right after surgery. They were able to bond with the baby for that hour after birth in much the same way a vaginal birth mom can. They delayed the bath, ointment etc, until after this time and also the baby was then bathed etc in the room. Perhaps this is a request you can talk about with your Dr...

LMK if you want that link to the white paper on what a c/s entails..

Lisa
Have you tried any natural methods to move things along?

Chantal
post #224 of 339
My planned c/s was a lot like chantald described. I had the catheter in from the surgery (2pm) until the next morning around 8am. They kept my IV (and later a heplock) in a lot longer because I passed out an hour after the surgery and they wanted it there in case they needed it.

My doula was able to be my second person and take pictures during the surgery - she took pictures of everything and it was great having someone take pictures so we didn't have to worry about it.
post #225 of 339
Hi. Great advice everyone. Thank you everyone.
Chantal..how did they manage to cut your bladder? Was your section an emergency?Yes, send me the lonk. I would love it!
Mightymoo..Why did you happen to pass out, was everything OK , were you just exhausted or did you lose blood?
Maria
post #226 of 339
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Originally Posted by mommamiagal
Mightymoo..Why did you happen to pass out, was everything OK , were you just exhausted or did you lose blood?
Maria
Sorry, I should have posted an explaination! So I felt fine right after the surgery, then after an hour or so I just felt really dizzy and passed out they say for like 1-2 minutes. Apparently my heartrate was really high (like 150) and my blood pressure was low and then my heartrate dropped, causing me to pass out. I didn't lose a lot of blood during the surgery, though. (I even have a picture of the blood container - my doula was very thorough!) Obviously they were concerned about hemorrage, but I didn't show any of the signs of that. They took some blood and did a CBC (complete blood count) and found that my hematocrit (red blood cell level) was very low - 20% (normal is more like 40) - so that explained why my heartrate was so high, I had half as many blood cells so I had to pump them through faster.

The last time we did my blood count while I was pregnant, I was also very low, so I think that although I didn't lose a ton of blood, since I was low to begin with the normal amount of blood loss between birth and surgery was enough to drop me too low. Before I left the hospital, the second day after the surgery we chose to have me get two pints of blood in order to boost my levels since although I wasn't dizzy or lightheaded, I was extremely tired and it would take many weeks for my body to recover on its own (and with a baby that just seemed hard to manage). At my one month checkup we checked my blood and I was back up to 31, so I seem to be doing just fine now.
post #227 of 339
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Originally Posted by mommamiagal
Hi! It's mommamiagal. Maybe you have read some of my posts. I am agonizing over having a c section, and I wonder if you can somehow help me through this. How do I get over my fear? Can you tell me step by step what happens. How long are you hooked up to all of the IV's and catheter after the birth? Isn't it hard to breastfeed like that? Also, I am so sad about leaving my 2 year old for 3 days.How can I bring back some joy to this birth, I went on a hospital tour tonight and it really depressed me..now I know why I had my last two at home. Thank you. I will really appreciate it! Maria
Hi, mommamialgal. I had some of the same fears you did. I have one emergency c-section and then chose to c-birth this year rather than be at home (very far out in the mountains) or v-bac at my rather uptight hospital (I hated it so much I felt that vbac'ing there was doomed from the outset). Anyway, I was also very, very worried and sad about having to leave my 2-year-old. The day of the surgery, though, that was not on my mind - I was totally focused on the new baby coming. He did not come to the hospital the day of the birth, and I worried about that too before the fact. But the truth is, that whole afternoon was so full and action packed ... it was OK that he didn't come. He was being taken care of by his cousin (his nanny) and his grandmother at home, and by all reports he didn't even notice we (his dad and I) were gone.

They came to the hospital the next day and he was thrilled to be there, to make a completely unexpected, exciting excursion and to meet his new brother. He seemed a litle confused by the environment but not upset. Then the next day (only 2 nights in the hospital) we came home!

As to your worries about the catheter and IV: I had my catheter taken out the afternoon after the surgery. It was actually easier with it in because 1) you don't feel it at all and it doesn't get in the way of breastfeeding, and 2) once it was out, that meant I had to get up out of bed and try to use the bathroom. That was the most painful thing - getting in and out of bed the first few days.

The IV came out pretty soon too, but they did leave the hep lock in until the next afternoon for some reason. It was a little bruised and annoying, but it didn't really get in the way of anything.

The pp nurses are usually very kind. I had a GREAT experience after my 1st hospital birth. I was a little less thrilled this time, but if I had to do it over, I would definitely "fire" any nurses I didn't feel I was getting optimal care from.

Maybe you can also check out after just 2 nights, to minimize the time spent away from your 2-year-old and get back on home turf faster?
post #228 of 339
I thought I would also mention that despite my passing out and blood count problems, I still checked out after only 2 days (about 48 hours). I could have stayed another day if I wanted to, but I didn't want to.

And my daughter, who was just barely 2 at the time, did just fine without me. I think having the c-section planned did really help with that - before I left for the hospital I was able to talk to her and say goodbye and prep her for our being gone for days. I think this was much easier than if I had managed to go into labor and had disappeared sometime in the night.
post #229 of 339
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Originally Posted by chantald
Lisa
Have you tried any natural methods to move things along?

Chantal
Not really...some walking and a bit of dancing/yoga (eg. hip rotation and things). I keep thinking I should try EPO, but I don't even know where to get it, and I seem to be in a coma, so it keeps slipping my mind. I may try sex again...it's a bit uncomfortable, but not really painful, and not unpleasant.

Any other suggestions?
post #230 of 339
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Originally Posted by mommamiagal
Hi! It's mommamiagal. Maybe you have read some of my posts. I am agonizing over having a c section, and I wonder if you can somehow help me through this. How do I get over my fear? Can you tell me step by step what happens. How long are you hooked up to all of the IV's and catheter after the birth? Isn't it hard to breastfeed like that? Also, I am so sad about leaving my 2 year old for 3 days.How can I bring back some joy to this birth, I went on a hospital tour tonight and it really depressed me..now I know why I had my last two at home. Thank you. I will really appreciate it! Maria
I'm online for a short time before going out in public for the first time in 3 weeks

To help with fear I would meditate on the positive, have a plan, discuss everything with your doctor, and don't read all the bad and negative stuff out there about csections.

I had all of my csections at lunch time and had my IV and Cath removed the following morning for the past two, the first time I was hooked to all of it nearly 3 days due to complications (the csection was an emergency).

Most hospitals have family centered rooms for mothers to room in in. I think you will have mixed feelings about leaving your older child once you have your new baby. Relish in that alone time with the baby, and have your older child visit but have plenty of things to occupy them with. Also keep in mind, depending on how well you are recovering, you may not want the child there or crawling all over you. I was happy to have my children visit, but when they were gone and it was just me and the new baby I was very happy!

Most csections these days only last 15-30 minutes from incision to closure. Get good anest. and you will most likely have no to little pain. Remember though with a spinal or epidural you will feel pressure and pulling while they try to pull the baby out and when they are putting your goods back in the abdominal cavity.
post #231 of 339
Hello everyone,
I'll be 6 weeks pp tomorrow and have been doing fine up to now, but I've just had some strange symptoms I'd like to run by you. I was already seen by an OBGYN but (surprise, surprise) didn't learn anything from my visit.

I woke up in the night between Wednesday and Thursday with terrible pains in what felt like my uterus. It felt so tender and was so painful, it was as if I was transported back to 1 week pp and had been punched in the stomach to boot. I was feverish and was moaning and was having trouble even walking. I wasn't certain it was my uterus, though - the only other thing that hurt this bad besides labor was the impacted stool and intendant gas pains I had after ds1 was born. But this pain was a little different: longer lasting, not so much like tiny knives being inserted into my belly. It went on for about two hours without decreasing. It really did feel like my uterus.

I *have* been lifting a lot of stuff, unavoidable with a very active, 33-lb. toddler and a 13-pounder in a bucket car seat. But I've also been feeling so great these past two weeks that I thought nothing of it. I felt nearly completely healed from my surgery. I did also have some bright red discharge earlier in the evening, after about 3-4 weeks of practically no more lochia.

I felt feverish, at times like vomiting or like I might faint. DP and I simply could not decide whether we should go to the hospital or call 911 or what. I really didn't want to go because we'd had no sleep, it was 3:00AM, it would take at least 30 minutes to get there and I had two small children to worry about. Finally, I got in the bathtub, and the hot water on my abdomen seemed to make it better and also to relax me. So far, so good. But after I got out, I no longer felt hot and clammy and feverish but rather had violent chills and shivering for about another hour and a half. In bed, DP covered me with every blanket in the house and still I felt like I was freezing to death. Finally, I fell asleep.

The next day: My uterus felt very tender and sore, again like 1 week pp. No more bleeding, fever had passed. I was walking very slowly again, and it sort of hurt when I first straightened up. Today: I feel almost normal, had a little bit more bright red blood, uterus is still very slightly tender but seems to be getting better.

WHAT could this be? The OB's exam was painful because my uterus was so tender. He couldn't see or feel anything unusual in his exam. I have pretty much ruled out gas pains myself because of the lingering soreness in my uterus. If it's gone, that's great - I just don't understand what could possibly have caused such a level of pain (enough to wake me up!) out of the blue. Any ideas?
post #232 of 339
Mellixa, I would be seriously concerned about uterine infection right now. I've had 2, one after my d&c and another after my c-section (I have rheumatoid arthritis and am on immunosuppresive drugs) Both times I was in agony--like IV demerol agony and weak and shakey. The chills and feeling feverish along with pain in that area would be my primary concerns. Keep a close eye on it as it can wreak some major havoc if it's not treated. Hopefully your body managed to get rid of everything with the discharge you had and your body is fighting it off without help.
post #233 of 339
Shannon, that's exactly what I was going to say. I had one uterine infection after my 2nd vbac (dumb doc insisted on sticking his hand up there to check for tears) and it was the worst thing I've ever felt.

I'd say if you feel feverish again you really need to go seek medical attention.

Good luck!
post #234 of 339
Did your Dr order a blood test to check your antibody levels to rule out an infection? Can you go see him/her again or another dr in the practice and see if they can help you. I don't think those symptoms are normal at all and agree that you should keep a close eye on it...

Chantal
post #235 of 339
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Originally Posted by Storm Bride
Not really...some walking and a bit of dancing/yoga (eg. hip rotation and things). I keep thinking I should try EPO, but I don't even know where to get it, and I seem to be in a coma, so it keeps slipping my mind. I may try sex again...it's a bit uncomfortable, but not really painful, and not unpleasant.

Any other suggestions?
Hey Lisa
How are you feeling today? EPO needs to be started at around 37 weeks to really be effective.. so I'd not worry about starting it now. I'd keep doing what you are doing.. and keep enlisting your DH..

Chantal
post #236 of 339
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Originally Posted by mommamiagal
Hi. Great advice everyone. Thank you everyone.
Chantal..how did they manage to cut your bladder? Was your section an emergency?Yes, send me the lonk. I would love it!
Mightymoo..Why did you happen to pass out, was everything OK , were you just exhausted or did you lose blood?
Maria

Hi Maria
Yes.. my c/s was more of an emergency than I would have liked... my birth story is here
http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=238119


A nicked or cut bladder is a common complication to a c/s.. or so I am told
I'll look for that link for you..

Chantal
post #237 of 339
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Originally Posted by mommamiagal
Yes, send me the lonk. I would love it!

Maria

Here is the URL to their white paper section. It is the 4th topic down.. it is in PDF format..

http://www.ican-online.org/resources...pers/index.php
post #238 of 339
Ladies, thanks for your replies. I certainly hope what I have (had??) is not a uterine infection. Sounds very nasty and painful.

The OB who saw me did have blood and urine run. No problem there. I have had no more truly worrisome symptoms. My uterus feels much better, I am moving normally, etc. The only thing is that there is still some red flow - is it possible I have my period back already?!? At six weeks? (The first time around, it was 8 months.) No cramping, not even mild. I am a bit perplexed. Or could this be my body working out the infection on its own? My only other symptom is a slight stomach ache I've had off and on for several days. But maybe I've just not been drinking enough water?

The doc also set me up to get a vaginal ultrasound. He'd hoped it would be done that afternoon or at the latest on Friday, but they couldn't fit me in until next Wednesday. If I feel completely well by then, I'm not going (the very idea has me feeling worse, especially since I don't know quite what it entails, how big the u/s wand is, if the tech is male or female and have so long to mull over it ... so imagining the unknown has me almost more worried than my symtoms).

Lisa, good luck to you ... I hope that baby decides to make a show of it soon.
post #239 of 339
I had pp discharge for 8 weeks.. it went away for a week around 6 weeks and then returned... I then got my period at 9 weeks... So, perhaps yuo did too much.. I have heard that red flow indicates you need to slow down

Chantal
post #240 of 339
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Originally Posted by chantald
Hey Lisa
How are you feeling today? EPO needs to be started at around 37 weeks to really be effective.. so I'd not worry about starting it now. I'd keep doing what you are doing.. and keep enlisting your DH..

Chantal
I'm doing okay, but had a bad night last night. Going past due date is extremely rare in my family, and because of the u/s date being a week earlier, the feeling that I'm really late is persisting, even though I know it's not true. It feels as though everyone in my family is asking me every ten minutes if the baby's here yet (and I feel like saying "oh, yeah - I just hadn't got around to telling anyone yet"), and that's making me feel even more pressured...

So, last night, I didn't sleep much...just kept getting this feeling that this baby isn't going to come out on its own, and I'm destined to have all my babies by c-section. DH and I are moving in the first week of August, and I just kept having thoughts about trying to deal with both little ones and a move while recuperating....made me wonder if I should just give up and schedule right now, so I have more time to recover. This is soooo not like me to just want to give up. Anyway, since 2:30 this morning, I've had four crying jags for no apparent reason. I'm hoping the weepiness is a sign that my hormone levels are changing in preparation for labour...does that sound far fetched?

Aside from my emotional state, everything's about the same...occasional mild cramps, mostly in the evening - and everything else is staying the same...


melixxa: I hope this all clears up for you. If it makes you feel any better, I've had vaginal ultrasounds a couple times (post-miscarriage) and they're not that bad. My tech both times was female, but she basically gave me the wand (she said it was like a big tampon, but honestly looked to me like a dildo) and asked me to insert it myself. Then, she just held the end of it while I was still covered with the sheet. It's kind of weird, but certainly nothing compared to a standard vaginal exam or pap smear.
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