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6/4/05 at 1:26pm
|It'd be cool to see D's methodology applied to a specific example (perhaps the next time a book or piece of research is being touted).|
Originally Posted by ERSsmom
A book I read recently kept claiming that if you get Whooping Cough once you will have life-long immunity. I thought this was wrong so I googled it. I found several state health dept sites that stated that getting WC does not give you life-long immunity, although it may give you immunity for a few years. Because of this discrepancy, I was skeptical of everything else in the book. The author should research everything she includes in her book.
I'm interested in how you decide what a reliable source is.
|I'm a snob about healthcare authors. I don't particularly like it when practitioners write about things that are beyond their scope of practice - like say a chiropractor that writes about baby food or medication.|
|But if you introduce a vaccine which wipes out that bacteria from circulating in the community, you do two things. You create a hole or vacuum, into which can step another variety that NO-ONE has had any prior experience with. The second thing you do, is that you put everyone MORE at risk as a result. Not just the vaccinated but also the unvaccinated.|
Originally Posted by mamakay
How, exactly, does that work? I know there is an internal balance between bacteria and fungi, but how do different types of bacteria keep each other in check?
Originally Posted by Momtezuma Tuatara
In a sense that is what is happening with the pertussis vaccine. They have changed the normal times in which people are getting an immune alert, and if the gap is wide enough, and there is enough genetic drift, then that is enough to allow the bacteria to evade what priming existed in the first place.
|US Clears Sanofi-Aventis Whooping Cough Vaccine
WASHINGTON (Reuters) Jun 10 - Sanofi-Aventis won U.S. approval on Friday to sell Adacel, a vaccine against pertussis for people ages 11 to 64, the Food and Drug Administration said.
Adacel is the first shot approved to boost immunity against whooping cough in adults, the FDA said. Adacel combines a whooping cough vaccine with routine tetanus and diphtheria booster shots.
Whooping cough vaccines are routine for U.S. children, but experts believe immunity to the disease wanes by adolescence. They hope booster shots for teenagers and adults will reduce infections in those age groups and keep the disease from spreading to infants, who can die from whooping cough.
The FDA approved GlaxoSmithKline Plc's whooping cough booster shot, Boostrix, in May for people ages 10 to 19.
|The mass use of the vaccine stopped the Hib bacteria from spreading in its tracks.
Which essentially left a "hole" in the circulating bacteria. The bacteria that stepped in to fill the breach (as in the saying that Nature abhors a vacuum) was the bacteria for which there is now the Prevnar vaccine.
|The recent deaths of at least four children has raised concerns over the safety of the polio vaccine administered under the government's nationwide program.
a preliminary report made by an independent team investigating the cause of the children's deaths had made it clear there was nothing wrong with the vaccine.
The team told us that the children's deaths had nothing to do with the vaccine dispensed during the May 31 mass vaccination. The children may have suffered other diseases they contracted before their vaccination," the physician told The Jakarta Post.
LBH Kesehatan claimed that a total of 61 babies, including six in Jakarta, one in Depok, and one in Bandung, had become victims of the substandard vaccine.
"As far as I know, the vaccine has no side effects at all. It is definitely safe. That's why the World Health Organization has allowed non-medical assistants to give it to babies," Jane said.
"We are afraid that after hearing the vaccine can cause fatalities, parents will be reluctant to vaccinate their children. Just one dose is not enough to make babies immune from polio. They have to be given at least three doses," she added.
Originally Posted by Momtezuma Tuatara
Okay, now add this into your analysis.
You KNOW that the early information on Pertussis was faulty, because they didn't understand what they were seeing, so the whole of the vaccination programme was based on flawed assumptions.
Since this thread is about analysing information, analyse this for me, and tell me what it says to you;