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post #41 of 258
6/2/05 at 1:02pm
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Originally Posted by the_lissa
I think prostitots is the most pffensive thing I have read in a while.
the idea of it is pretty offensive but unfortunatly the way clothing styles are these days, it's not that far off the mark. :
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post #42 of 258
6/2/05 at 1:06pm
I put our 14 month old DS in a kilt. Handmade by Grandma and Great Grandma

Its adorable if you ask me ...see for yourself.


http://share.shutterfly.com/osi.jsp?i=EeJMW7NuxcP2A
post #43 of 258
6/2/05 at 1:07pm
I agree that young girl's clothing is sexualized, and that is offensive.

However, I think the word prostitots is demeaning to those children who are forced into the sex trade, and it makes light of their situation. I think the term is loaded with judgment too. Who defines what is a prostitot? The parent is the one buying the clothes, but people are calling kids prostitots? I also think it takes away from the seriousness of the issue.
post #44 of 258
6/2/05 at 1:17pm
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Originally Posted by Emzachsmama
the idea of it is pretty offensive but unfortunatly the way clothing styles are these days, it's not that far off the mark. :

Pretty offensive? It's an absolutely horrendous innuendo. Talk about putting pressure on kids to look a certain way. Jeesh, we get this all our lives, why do we have to start on them when they're so young. So, as the word implies, now *Toddlers* clothing (Girl, only I take it) has to look a certain way or else the implication is that sluttiness is involved? Or what? I don't get it. That term sounds mysogonistic and bizarre, to me.
Why do people think it's ok for girls to dress in pants etc. but not ok for boys to wear dresses? I'm interested in theories about this.
post #45 of 258
6/2/05 at 1:17pm
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Originally Posted by ScotiaSky
I put our 14 month old DS in a kilt. Handmade by Grandma and Great Grandma

Its adorable if you ask me ...see for yourself.


http://share.shutterfly.com/osi.jsp?i=EeJMW7NuxcP2A
That is adorable! I’m so jealous. DP and I have always wanted to get DS a kilt. So cute!
post #46 of 258
6/2/05 at 1:18pm
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Originally Posted by Tummy
YES!

I would let my DS wear make-up if he wished to..
:LOL in his teen years of course
:LOL My ds (4.5 years) sometimes goes out with make-up on. If I decide to wear some, he likes to wear it as well. Of course, for him that means eyebrow pencil on his forehead and cheeks and lip gloss on his nose.

Yes, he could wear a skirt or dress if he wanted. He often wears a red velvet cloak lately and tells everyone he's Darth Vader.
post #47 of 258
6/2/05 at 1:28pm
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Originally Posted by Jen123
I would not allow my son to wear a dress out side of the house. For a variety of reasons including but not limited to , personal , moral , and safety.
Boys should dress like boys. Girls just dress like lil girls and not prosti-tots in training. but that's another thread. LOL
I just had to quote this entire thing because it is so offensive and I disagree with it so much :LOL Boys should dress like boys puh-leeze. And who's the grand puba that decided what is "boy dress". I would call this statement "archaic", but it doesn't even take past history into account, so it cannot be archaic. Men have always worn skirts as a norm, until about 50 years ago in THIS country--so that's the end-all, be-all?

There are no moral or safety reasons (what, are we afraid our sons are gonna get their penises caught on something? :LOL) that are valid. Better tell those priests & reverends to watch out, they wear really long dresses...

My son used to love wearing sarongs, and we'd go to the store in our redneck town, out to dinner. Because he had long hair to his butt, probably most people thought he was a girl. We had some small-minded people actually say "no" when we would correct them by saying "he" when they said "she".

My son loved skirts except for, and I quote, "Those mean people who think I'm a girl". I think it's so silly with so many other wonderful things in the world, that we should attempt to put morals on gender/clothing...why should it matter whether the child is a girl or boy--are you gonna date 'em? If they have a piece of cloth on their bodies that somehow signifies their gender, shouldn't we realize the personal, moral, and safety reasons to CHANGE THE WAY WE CATEGORIZE PEOPLE, rather than automatically assuming THEY are WRONG ? :

The oversimplification of boy=pants girl=skirts really gets my blood boiling, if only for the fact that it's people who FEAR the DIFFERENCES in people that are SO dangerous, as seen by example with that poor Matthew Shepard boy. If fear of lynching for a boy wearing a skirt is our "safety" reason, then we are just perpetuating THAT HATRED. IT NEEDS TO STOP.

Shame on us for not celebrating those differences as a beautiful part of humanity, instead hiding under some weird "moral" that requires a person to shame another for doing something *gasp* outside their box.
post #48 of 258
6/2/05 at 1:32pm
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Originally Posted by ScotiaSky
I put our 14 month old DS in a kilt. Handmade by Grandma and Great Grandma

Its adorable if you ask me ...see for yourself.


http://share.shutterfly.com/osi.jsp?i=EeJMW7NuxcP2A
OMG I am jealous...that's a gorgeous kilt! I've always put Sid in kilts. He loves wearing them.
But of course EVERYONE who doesn't know him thinks he's a girl.

~Daednu
post #49 of 258
6/2/05 at 1:32pm
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Originally Posted by mamajama
Pretty offensive? It's an absolutely horrendous innuendo. Talk about putting pressure on kids to look a certain way. Jeesh, we get this all our lives, why do we have to start on them when they're so young. So, as the word implies, now *Toddlers* clothing (Girl, only I take it) has to look a certain way or else the implication is that sluttiness is involved? Or what? I don't get it. That term sounds mysogonistic and bizarre, to me.
Why do people think it's ok for girls to dress in pants etc. but not ok for boys to wear dresses? I'm interested in theories about this.
To be honest I think there are clothing styles for young girls out there that are completely innapropriate, and yes even bordering on slutty.

As for boys wearing dresses/girls wearing pants....I honestly don't know why it is ok for girls but not for boys, but for me and my family, dresses on our son is not ok. I don't much care what other families choose but that is how it is for our family.
post #50 of 258
6/2/05 at 1:40pm
Another vote against the concept that clothing choices should be limited by gentials.
post #51 of 258
6/2/05 at 1:53pm
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Originally Posted by Emzachsmama
To be honest I think there are clothing styles for young girls out there that are completely innapropriate, and yes even bordering on slutty.

As for boys wearing dresses/girls wearing pants....I honestly don't know why it is ok for girls but not for boys, but for me and my family, dresses on our son is not ok. I don't much care what other families choose but that is how it is for our family.
What if your son wants to wear a dress what will you tell him? That dresses are for girls only?

My son likes to wear his sisters things and thinks nothing of it. Dh and I let him wear whatever he wants to wear.
post #52 of 258
6/2/05 at 1:59pm
i would be a 'no' on this one.
post #53 of 258
6/2/05 at 2:00pm
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Originally Posted by Karry
What if your son wants to wear a dress what will you tell him? That dresses are for girls only?
I wonder about that too.

Is it really right for your family? Child included, or just you?

Also, I am still not understanding why it is not right for some people… I’d be interested in hearing specific reason as to why it isn’t ok for boys to wear a dress. Social rules? Fear of turning a child gay? I’m really not trying to stir the pot, I am honestly just very curious.

I’ve always felt that self expression shouldn’t have any limits (assuming it isn't really hurting anyone else). There are things that I don’t like and would NEVER wear, but it isn’t my right to push those opinions on to others, my child included.
post #54 of 258
6/2/05 at 2:03pm
Emzachsmama- I LOVE your siggy. Very well said. I think others could learn a great deal from it.
post #55 of 258
6/2/05 at 2:05pm
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I understand what you’re saying, but the same thing can be said about a lot of things… A boy having long hair…. a doll, breastfeeding in public! There are a lot of uptight people out there who want to force their expectations on to others, when do we stop letting them dictate our decisions especially regarding things our kids are comfortable with?
Everyone has their own line, and this is where mine is. I DO see all of those things on an almost daily basis-- men or boys with long hair, boys with dolls, and breastfeeding in public. I have never seen a boy wearing a dress in public, although there was a child I used to work with who enjoyed wearing a white wedding dress wherever he went.

Every single one of us alters our appearance in some way to meet social expectations. The fact that we wear clothes at all is testament to this. I'm not saying that anyone shouldn't be comfortable allowing their young son to wear a dress in public, I said that I not comfortable doing so. I also said that I would allow my older son to do so if I felt like he understood the potential risks of doing so. A 3yo isn't going to understand WHY I'm not letting him wear a dress. If he could, then it wouldn't be an issue because I'd let him make the decision himself. I"m not really "teaching" him anything by disuading him from wearing a dress.
post #56 of 258
6/2/05 at 2:08pm
What if your DH or male DP decided he wanted to wear dresses, pink and lacey ones. And pantyhose, high heels and make up.

I know that there are men who wear dresses, but what if he just decided this? what would you think? Self expression coming out?

just thinking out loud...
post #57 of 258
6/2/05 at 2:10pm
And can we drop the word "prostit-tot"? It makes my stomach lurch. That is such a disgusting, demeaning, inappropriate word.
post #58 of 258
6/2/05 at 2:12pm
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Originally Posted by mountain
what, are we afraid our sons are gonna get their penises caught on something? :LOL


Of course I would let my son wear anything he pleases. I consider it immoral to enforce rigid and restrictive gender roles on any child.
post #59 of 258
6/2/05 at 2:13pm
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post #60 of 258
6/2/05 at 2:15pm
:LOL I'm with you lotusdebi! I'm into guys in dresses too... I LOVE butch women and femme men. But that's another, innuendo-laden thread.

This is actually what it's all about IMO. Are we comfortable with men AND women transgressing gender roles?

I am absolutely. I think it's called evolution.
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