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post #41 of 47
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Originally Posted by Earth Angel
I'm sorry, I just felt that I could add an experience that showed that not all waldorf schools are the same.
I’m not sure why you would feel the need to apologize. The question indirectly asked at the beginning of this thread was: “Is bullying something that isn’t tolerated and is dealt with in the Waldorf environment?” And you simply appear to be sharing your experiences in that regard.

My experience: it’s really a question having to do with the individual teacher. Yes, it’s correct to say bullying is something that isn’t tolerated, absolutely. On the other hand, the ability of each teacher to effectively deal with problems of bullying, is another thing altogether.

And no: the karma issue has nothing to do with any of this. As Rhonwyn correctly pointed out: “even if [teachers] do believe in karma, most no longer follow this line of reasoning.” And besides, the notion that teachers would fail to take active responsibility for a child’s well-being, is twisting the notion of karma in an entirely erroneous direction. I attribute that to that fact that, as a metaphysical (occult) term, it can generate negativity and even fear.
post #42 of 47
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I’m not sure why you would feel the need to apologize.
This is why....This is the response I received from the OP

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If my friend had your experience with bullying I never would have asked this question in the first place.
post #43 of 47
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Originally Posted by Earth Angel
This is why....This is the response I received from the OP
I'm not sure I would read too much into that. Personally, I read it as - wow, that's great and completely different than my friend experienced. We should all remember that we don't often hear about the many, many situations that were handled well. Our kids don't come home (usually) and tell us they almost got in a fight but the teacher swiftly intervened and handled the incident perfectly. We tend to hear more negative than positive.

Pete
post #44 of 47
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Originally Posted by alanoe
And no: the karma issue has nothing to do with any of this. As Rhonwyn correctly pointed out: “even if [teachers] do believe in karma, most no longer follow this line of reasoning.” And besides, the notion that teachers would fail to take active responsibility for a child’s well-being, is twisting the notion of karma in an entirely erroneous direction. I attribute that to that fact that, as a metaphysical (occult) term, it can generate negativity and even fear.
I think this may be going a bit too far in the opposite direction. Karma is definitely one of the staples of Anthroposophy. I've even been told by teachers on more than one occasion, when asking about a bullying situation, that karma between the students was at play. So, no, I don't think teachers no longer follow this line of reasoning, but I think they are becoming more careful about verbalizing this to parents.

And this is an interesting sub-topic, because as a parent who was a strong supporter of Waldorf at one time (my ex and her family were Anthroposophists and Waldorf teachers), teachers were more comfortable, perhaps, verbalizing this sort of thing with me. There may be, and I'm pretty sure I'm right about this, a completely different language used with non-anthroposophist parents. So whether or not the current trend is to point to karma or not, it is rather obvious that karma is huge in the thinking of Anthroposophists and even in Waldorf teacher training materials.

Pete
post #45 of 47
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I did not mean what I said in bad way. Please do not apologize. What I meant (and should have taken the time to explain) was that if she was experiencing that kind of positive resolution to the bullying then I never would have come here to ask.
post #46 of 47
Thanks for the clarification kewb

I just read it with a different tone I guess....sometimes this is a difficult to medium.
post #47 of 47
That is where the emoticons come in handy. .


They can depict emotions brilliantly, considering the fact that we can't see each other's facial expressions nor hear inflections inherent in vocal conversations.
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