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post #161 of 183
I really can't believe that we eat mostly cooked food. When I 'cheat', I feel awful. Stomache cramps and a headache...and most people eat only cooked food all day, every day. I'm wondering about the first time ever someone cooked food. What could have made them think that was a good idea and that they should try it again?

I did not know that about cantalope. Thanks for the info. I've decided to stay away from raw peanuts for now too. At least for my kids.

Since my plan to make some raw peanut butter yesterday went down the drain, I attempted to make some other kind of raw nut butter and it turned out pretty yummy. Not too smooth and spreadable, but great to roll a banana in. It was about 1 1/2 c nuts (mostly pecans with some almonds and walnuts), 4 dates (I was going to use them to sweeten it for the kids, but it wasn't working too well so I switched to raw wildflower honey) and about 2 spoonfulls of the honey. All of it was eaten yesterday because everyone loved it so much.

My sister is home on leave and she's gotten interested in raw talking to me. She went out and bought Carol Alt's book last night and I'm reading it right now. It's pretty interesting.

3littlesweeties - how did you know that your kids had these sensitivities? Did a doctor help you find out? My ds has massive amounts of energy. Everyone tells me that most 5yos have loads of energy, but when he's around other 5yos he runs circles around them. We're homeschooling, but I know if we weren't it wouldn't be too far into the year that we'd be having a ridalin talk. I know it's not anything like ADHD though. It doesn't worry me past the fact that if there is a food sensitivity, he'd probably feel better if we knew about it. Of course, if all goes as I hope it will, at some point in the not too, too distant future he'll be raw too, and it probably won't be an issue. But in the meantime...

As for meat. I'm not a vegetarian, I wanted to be at one point when I was younger, but wasn't allowed to. But lately, the thought of meat turns my stomach. Just thinking of not only eating a dead animal, but eating one that's been dead for days just sickens me. I'm definately not going to do raw meat. I haven't done any raw dairy, I might try it sometime, but right now I don't have the desire to.

It'd be great to hear from someone who's totally raw, and see how it's going for them.

Diana
post #162 of 183
quidditchmom - I don't think I'm what you meant when you said "someone who's totally raw" :LOL Today is my second day and it's horrible! I was fine yesterday, but today I've felt so dizzy and weak, and not able to focus really well. I'm going to give it a few more days, but I'm not filled with enthusiasm for being 100% raw forever.

However, I've got over the hurdle of thinking life's not worth living if I don't eat 'junk' food, so I guess that's progress. I have so many cravings for cooked food. Mostly bread!

Yesterday I ate apple for breakfast, I went to the juice bar in the morning and had a mixture (thanks for the idea, shaper) avocado & tomato for lunch, melon for snack and then gazpacho for dinner and some almonds to fill the hole I still had. Today I had melon for breakfast, strawberries & a glass of oj mid-morning, strawberries then avocado with dressing (yummy) and more nuts.

There is an NT 'recipe' for crispy nuts where you soak them in salt water overnight and then dehydrate them. They are delicious.

Oh, and I went to the HFS today (big trip into town) and managed to get some nori - I didn't even know what it was and certainly didn't expect them to have it in Switzerland, couldn't figure what raw thing would give a fishy taste! That it's dried seaweed makes sense... Now I just have to find a recipe...
post #163 of 183
quiddichmom--yes I had the blood test done at the Naturepathic Dr. We all have underlying allergies to things. When we eat them we get things like ear infections, bladder infections, we feel extra tried or grumpy ect... most people think that's just the way we are.

We learn something every day......

Nicole
post #164 of 183

thanks everyone and SOS!!!

I am delurking for something hardy and delicious to eat for dinner. My dh is pissed. I love raw eating! Kids love it, too. *HE* needs some inspiration! I will finish cooking the stuff in the kitchen, few more meats in the freezer. I decided to only cook dinner. The meal he is here for most times. Luckily for us all, he gets to go out of town, not to mention everyone at work goes out for lunch. He can come home for lunch. Our raw menu doesn't appeal to him and he "WILL BE GLAD WHEN THIS IS OVER!" :LOL Since I love him and all....I want him to eat optimally. But I need some help inticing him and satisfying the taste buds.

Won't you help? lol........

I APPRECIATE THIS THREAD SO MUCH! THIS TOPIC DESERVES IT'S OWN FORUM! Thank you for your support, there are probably more lurkers like me who need it.

Lori
post #165 of 183
hey ladies

this thread is so big now!

anyway
after about 13 days of 100% raw food
i had a slice of pizza!
it was not even organic!

and last night i had beans and rice....at leas they were organic, but still cooked...

i don't know how i feel about it...
did i slip up? and make a weak mistake?

or

did i need something and the fullfil a need....

need vs desire....

anyway....i now am back to 100%

but i guess i feel a little tainted!

eating is still such a loaded emotional issue for me...

arceinial:
quote: However, I've got over the hurdle of thinking life's not worth living if I don't eat 'junk' food, so I guess that's progress.

that still keeps on popping up in my food issues!

that is my probelm in a nutshell

which is maybe way after BEING VEGAN FOR MONTHS and a raw foodist for almost 2 weeks
i had a freaking slice of pizza!

oh well i am still dropping the pounds like crazy and feeling good overall

not quite as "high" as i was the first week after detox was over but good still
post #166 of 183
Thread Starter 
Hello everyone...welcome to all the new people! This thread moves so fast! I hope that no one "leaves" the thread because they feel like their question didn't get answered. It's hard for me to keep up with it all! I'm glad we have others posting who are knowledgable and can answer questions. Thanks you guys!

Anyway...I've been doing good. Yesterday we were traveling again and I chose to have a cooked day. Thai for lunch, a soy latte, and some quinoa for supper but everything else raw. Today I was 100%...but I'm sooooo wanting something cooked (probably because I ate cooked yesterday?!). I just stand in the kitchen and STARE at my veggies and fruits....longing for something more. If that blasted dehydrator would hurry up and arrive, I wouldn't be freaking out. Tonight I made broccoli soup from Alissa's book...and it was very tasty. I think it will taste even better as leftovers and chilled a bit. I am trying to use up all my food before we leave for the fourth of July weekend. That is probably why I'm going nuts...not enough food in my kitchen!

I'm feeling very anxious about doing raw right now...I'm really wondering how I am going to continue it for the long term. I just have to think soooo hard about what I'm going to eat on the road, and what I'm going to make, etc. I know this is a normal feeling because I'm so used to cooking everything. I think I felt this way a little when I went vegan, but not to this extreme. If I could just stay home all the time it would be fine, but I've been traveling for most of the summer so far. Ugh! I have a giant cooler in my car to make all of my goodies and it just gets annoying after awhile. Someone needs to start a raw fast food joint! I would be there everyday! :LOL

Sorry for the rant...I really love being raw, I'm just having a bad night. I think it's because I ate a lot of nuts and date nut torte and I feel overly full I just need to try a bunch of new recipes and I'll be inspired again I'm sure.

I am going to eat at my first raw restaurant this weekend. Ecopolitan in Minneapolis. I'll try to take pics for you to see! Can't wait to try the yummy stuff there! You can buy crackers and others goodies and they do take out too. It's going to be the highlight of my weekend I'm sure. Plus, my sister is watching Bella so DH and I can be alone and ENJOY a meal! Yippee!

Hope everyone is having a great night!
post #167 of 183
Hi Lori,
Glad you delurked!

I just want you to know I have had a similar experience. My dh didn't like anything really at first either. He did want to do this but not 100%.

I guess in a way I got lucky because the first thing I made... he liked!

I ordered Alissa Cohen's book and DVDs. I wouldn't be doing this if it wasn't for that.

By the way the thing I made was the fettichini Alfredo in her book.

For my kids.. I definately needed the dehydrator for cookies.

The Pizza bread really really helped along with the mock salmon pate'.

So now after two weeks of transitioning we eat a lot a guacamole/salsa, dips with veggies and fresh fruit.

I do kinda spoil my family in the way that we will have a cake or pie in the fridge at all times as well as some dehyrated cookies and or cut up and ready to eat fresh fruit. Watermelon is a fave!

So, I just talked to my dh tonight and he is doin' fantastic. He is 100% except for organic chips! Amazing! He works 10 to 15 hour shifts and has been working overtime on his days off as well and he is only eating what I make.

Lately I haven't prepared stuff so It's just fresh fruit, celery with almond butter and rasins and a nice salad with sprouts and an interesting dressing.

We take liquid supplements as well and I really think this helps tremendously!!

Nicole
post #168 of 183
Mama Justice---I say, pat yourself on the back!!!

I am so proud of you. I want to be more like you!! From what I've seen, you have a positive outlook on food. One slice.. good job!!

I am wondering, did it make you feel sick to your stomach? Just wondering how your digestive system handeled it since I got sick on Chips & bean dip!! :LOL

Delight--rant's are welcome :LOL ! I can't wait to see/hear what you make when you do get your dehydrator!!!
post #169 of 183
Delight - I'm so jealous. I want to eat a raw restaurant. Maybe in the next 50 years they'll get one in Maine :LOL

I wasn't going to do a cook out this year for the 4th, I was going to leave it up to someone else in the family, but having the most space, I was volunteered. So, I'm going to make it pretty simple; hamburgers, hot dogs, bbq chicken, and corn on the cob are the only things I'm cooking. And my grandmother is making pies. I'm also going to make some raw walnut burgers with raw tomato sauce, a veggie platter with guacamole and salsa (both raw), a fruit platter with dip, a raw apple pie with banana 'ice cream' and raw cherrie bon bons. That's the plan anyways. Two of my sisters are going to be eating raw with me, and hopefully my kids will but I'm not going to force them.

I made some raw lemonade and banana ice cream for them today and they loved it. The ice cream really tastes like ice cream.

I was wondering if anyone here uses a green powder. The book I read mentioned them in place of using greens in green drinks. Also, where do you get nama shoyu? And can anyone tell me why any of the bulk foods I get at my health food store have this yucky, perfume-y aftertaste?

arcenciel and moma justice, thanks for updating us. arcenciel, I'm sure it will get better
post #170 of 183
: Well, I didn't last long enough for it to get better. Towards the end of day 2 I just kind of fell apart. I hadthe remains of the gazpacho but I couldn't resist eating some croutons made of bread, and some leftover cooked chicken from the weekend. Then yesterday I only had salad for breakfast and more raw for lunch but in the afternoon I was craving junk SO badly! I had several slices of bread and honey, then for tea I had sausages (they were already in the fridge...) and WHITE bread. I felt yucky afterwards. I felt drunk actually. It was a bit weird but presumably the sugar or something...

So I've given up. I just don't think I can manage 100% raw at the moment. I'll need to wait until I've got it a bit more together. I only gave up sugar in January and that already brought lots of changes for us. I think I'll work on cutting out grains and cutting back dairy and meat and just introducing as much raw as possible, and then think again about it in a few months.

I really am convinced by the whole raw argument, though I don't know that I could really do it the vegan way. And trying it out was an eye-opener, in fact it made me see lots of possibilities (like all the recipes) that I wouldn't have thought about if I hadn't tried - I would have just tried to eat lots of plain raw veg. & salad, etc. And I have to say, I'm surprised any of you can live without making some of the recipes. I was so sick of salad-y things after just 2 days!

Anyway, I REALLY admire all of you that are managing to be 100% raw (even with the occasional slight slip). It really takes will-power, imagination and planning. Well done!
post #171 of 183
Well, today I've been 100%...cooked that is : . I am SO tired. My littlest baby is STILL sick. He's got an ear infection. I'm not dealing with it too well. My other two never had one, I haven't slept really since sometime late last week or over the weekend...I'm not sure when cause I don't even know what day it is right now. My back (and every other part of my body) is killing me right now from carrying around a 22 lb baby non stop for the past several days. Doesn't it figure - my baby backpack (the only carrier he hasn't outgrown) broke right before he got sick! I'm feeling quite emotional (could it be lack of sleep??), especially since I can't find anyone to talk to that will tell me if this is normal, or what I can do or anything besides tell me to just give him antibiotics. I DON'T WANT TO GIVE HIM ANTIBIOTICS!!! AND, to top it all off, I run a chess/game club for little kids and it meets today. I have to go, and I can't find anyone to watch him.

I keep feeling like if I could just get some sugar or caffein into me I could shake this fuzzy/emotional wreck-y feeling. So I've had a piece of pecan pie, a scoop of ice cream, and some butterscotch chips today. I've torn my kitchen up about 3 times already because I KNOW there is one can of Mountain Dew (nasty, I know, but full of caffeine!) left from before I started this. I just can't find it : .

But, I've decided that I've got enough to worry about right now, I'm not going to worry about this or feel guilty. I'm just going to get back on track when he's better and I'm well rested....if it ever happens.

Sorry for all that, just ranting....
Diana
post #172 of 183
You've had a bad day? It's ok. Don't give up on a hard day. Get more food, that helps me. Eat more food, more times a day. Perhaps you were eating too little? My dh is pretty pissy, too, but I comprimised with him....all raw except cooked meat at dinner. He refuses to be a "hippy raw eating vegetarian pooping pink grapefruit" or whatever his rant is. Not easy living with that support, kwim. BUT, I will do what I see is best for me. Point is, it ain't easy sometimes.

You know how it is easy to cheat at night (no one to see, I think is why). Well, no one was around, it was late, very hungry. We have icecream. I finished all the leftovers of various salsas, a wedge of cantaloupe, cup of water and went to bed extremely satisfied and proud of myself! There were like 4 little containers of stuff, maybe 2 tablespoons in each, so I was also glad to free up the space in the fridge.

I am going for it anyway. I like it. I have no more indentions on my legs for the first time in over a year. Cooked food didn't leave enough room or appetite for sufficient fluids. Alass........ And I still have energy at 10 pm! That's insane for me.

Thanks for the tips Nicole. My dh wants to know: what about protein, kids have to have meat, and shepard's pie........ I need a resource to say the least. It feels good isn't good enough.

Lori
post #173 of 183
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Originally Posted by quidditchmom
Well, today I've been 100%...cooked that is : . I am SO tired. My littlest baby is STILL sick. He's got an ear infection. I'm not dealing with it too well. My other two never had one, I haven't slept really since sometime late last week or over the weekend...I'm not sure when cause I don't even know what day it is right now. My back (and every other part of my body) is killing me right now from carrying around a 22 lb baby non stop for the past several days. Doesn't it figure - my baby backpack (the only carrier he hasn't outgrown) broke right before he got sick! I'm feeling quite emotional (could it be lack of sleep??), especially since I can't find anyone to talk to that will tell me if this is normal, or what I can do or anything besides tell me to just give him antibiotics. I DON'T WANT TO GIVE HIM ANTIBIOTICS!!! AND, to top it all off, I run a chess/game club for little kids and it meets today. I have to go, and I can't find anyone to watch him.

I keep feeling like if I could just get some sugar or caffein into me I could shake this fuzzy/emotional wreck-y feeling. So I've had a piece of pecan pie, a scoop of ice cream, and some butterscotch chips today. I've torn my kitchen up about 3 times already because I KNOW there is one can of Mountain Dew (nasty, I know, but full of caffeine!) left from before I started this. I just can't find it : .

But, I've decided that I've got enough to worry about right now, I'm not going to worry about this or feel guilty. I'm just going to get back on track when he's better and I'm well rested....if it ever happens.

Sorry for all that, just ranting....
Diana




Diana, I sent you a pm.
post #174 of 183
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Originally Posted by mysweetfiona
You know how it is easy to cheat at night (no one to see, I think is why). Well, no one was around, it was late, very hungry. We have icecream. I
Thanks for the tips Nicole. My dh wants to know: what about protein, kids have to have meat, and shepard's pie........ I need a resource to say the least. It feels good isn't good enough.

Lori

Lori, I highly recommend the book Eat To Live or maybe you can find info on the site. It's not a raw book, but it's very imformative! It talks about the myths of protein. Very good read.

http://www.drfuhrman.com
post #175 of 183
well first of all, to diana, I know how hard it is to make the antibiotics decision (and then defend that decision). especially on no sleep. hope you're both feeling better soon.

I have some questions, and I hope they haven't been asked tons of times already. I've been weeding through this thread for the past few days, and it's a monster! All the pictures and websites to distract and sidetrack me!
But what I really am wondering is- how does this diet work with young children, and is it possible to do partial raw? Like 1 cooked meal/day, or will that just leave you feeling crappy? It seems like once you've detoxed, the cooked stuff is harder on your system, so I'm thinking maybe mostly raw and some cooked might make for some sickness... ds would LIVE on fruit, and it's so funny because I just had this conversation before I found this thread- I said how I couldn't stand the thought of eating warm food in the summer, ds said he could never feel full if he didn't eat hot food, and all the while 2 yo ds is asking for more fruit- practically the ONLY thing we can get him to eat.
I was so excited to do this until I read the $$ issues. Once the garden is over, I might have to resort back to rice because we're so darn frugal. (dh has a different word for it) :LOL
And on that note, is it necessary to have a dehydrator? Food processor? We have a cheap blender, but if a dehydrator or whatever would help us get the most nutrition and make it easier to stay with it, I would try to buy one... at garage sales... or Goodwill...
post #176 of 183
Hey, I am new to the site but we are sortof raw ffooders, have been for the bast few months.lol We are 90% there, We have Homemade 10% wheat bread or 100% homemade wheat tortia's adn rice milk. ANd I am anemic as is my children, so we do throw a can of salmon or tuna on a salad occasionally at dinner.lol And we do eat organic popcorn, but that is all we as a famly eat cooked.lol And we are getting there, I need to find out some ideas on Iron in veggies! But we love the diet, it started because my children hate cooked veggies.lol And we eat mainly veggies and we eat all fruit, we have not had real junk food in my home in over a year.lol So this was just the next step I guess.lol But I hope to get some inspiration from you all.lol
Lori
post #177 of 183
quidditchmom - I have some anthroposophic (Waldorf/Steiner philosophy) dropy that worked wonders on my dd's ear infections (and mine!). It is some kind of oil with 10% levisticum (whatever that is). At any rate, it is not anti-biotics and you might be able to get hold of something similar if you ask around locally? My herbal book says that "the heart of a boiled, cooled onion was inserted into th ear to relieve earache" - though it doesn't say whether it was actually effective. And it's not raw. Please don't take my atttempt at humour for lack of sympathy. Do what you can to get some sleep and worry about the raw when you come to.

On the subject of dehydrators, it sounds like if you do raw forever you might need one eventually, but if your oven turns down low enough you can use that to dehydrate things - all the dehadration recipes seem to say 105°. Or if you have a warming drawer on your oven you can use that as an alternative too.

Still hanging on to the thread while comtemplating giving up...
post #178 of 183
Is there a list for the "travelling" book by Hygeia Halfmoon? If so, sign me up! We're ttc, so hopefully I'll be able to get some insights into raw pregnancy, etc. from her... I guess that's depending on how fast y'all read :LOL
diana- I tried onion and garlic oil for ds's ear infection last year. He *stank* like garlic for days, and the infection didn't clear up. I eventually had to do antibiotics, after I cracked when his doctor started accusing me of "neglecting" his health by trying to avoid "treatment" : I gave him the refrigerated acidopholous, etc. liquid and he didn't have any side effects, and he hasn't had another infection since. I hated giving him antibiotics, but if it's a last resort, feel better knowing you did all you could...
post #179 of 183
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Like 1 cooked meal/day, or will that just leave you feeling crappy? It seems like once you've detoxed, the cooked stuff is harder on your system, so I'm thinking maybe mostly raw and some cooked might make for some sickness...
I do one cooked meal a day, usually soaked and sprouted rice or quinoa, chicken stock or sometimes beans or shrimp (when my grandma buys me some, lol).... I have 5-6 small meals a day. and the rest are raw.
I actually feel much better with a small amount of cooked than 100% raw at this point. Also, having a bowl of rice a day is virtually necessary for our low income. raw aint cheap~

You really dont need a dehydrator, unless you are into the raw gourmet, or you like to stock up on fruits/veggies when they are in season.

Anything dehydrated backs me up terribly, because it absorbs back all of the moisture as it moves though your system... so I dont usually go for it.

You dont really need a food processor either; but it does save time if you are finding youself chopping and slicing for hours a day and also you will need either a processor/chopper/grinder if you want to make almost all of the recipes that include nuts.
post #180 of 183

Just found this thread...

Hi everyone :-)

I'm new to the boards, been here a few months actually. Started posting on the Pregnancy/Due Date Clubs.

This is my 3rd year of nearly 100% raw. I say "nearly" because I've done the Master Cleanse a couple which uses Maple Syrup and I occasionally use Nama Shoyu. Otherwise I'm totally raw.

Lucky me, here in NYC there are several raw restaurants just a train ride away from me. It really helped in the beginning when I had cooked cravings- I could get a raw version of it and sate the craving.

DS is 7 weeks old now. I had a 100% raw pregnancy and am currently breastfeeding. I use fitday.com to keep an eye on my nutrient intake, otherwise I just rely on "nutrition intuition." I'll post about that concept later, hafta switch sides- NAK ;-)

xoxoxo

Beth
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